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#61 Mar 16, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
You ALWAYS take the minority opinion.
More importantly, I take the position of dissidents that are also Nobel Laureates, revolutionary thinkers, courageous journalists or political activists if what they say agrees with the third angel's message.
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#62 Mar 16, 2013
The Dude wrote:
The required answers to Dr. Duesberg's scientific challenges are not given there. Please try again.
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#63 Mar 16, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
You are a fan of crackpots and idiots. Sadly in the case of AID's these idiots are at the very least complicit in abetting homicide.
No, My links on AIDS clearly show that I'm a fan of brilliant Nobel Laureates, accomplished cell biologists, award-winning journalists and courageous political activists. In comparison to them, you're just a pathetic Sub duc that continually demonstrates believing that ad hominem fallacies trump scientific theses and perfectly logical arguments.

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#64 Mar 16, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>No, My links on AIDS clearly show that I'm a fan of brilliant Nobel Laureates, accomplished cell biologists, award-winning journalists and courageous political activists. In comparison to them, you're just a pathetic Sub duc that continually demonstrates believing that ad hominem fallacies trump scientific theses and perfectly logical arguments.
You are trying to argue that the people you are backing are the ONLY people in the world who have an education.

However, for every one person at your side of the table, there are 1000 over here who have the same or BETTER educations, the same of BETTER credentials.

Yet, as always, you back the minority opinion.

You probably think 9/11 was fake.
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#65 Mar 16, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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You are trying to argue that the people you are backing are the ONLY people in the world who have an education.
Nonsense! I'm arguing that my opponents on this thread engage in ad hominem fallacies because their willful ignorance makes them incapable of considering scientific theses and logical arguments.
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#66 Mar 16, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
However, for every one person at your side of the table, there are 1000 over here who have the same or BETTER educations, the same of BETTER credentials.
Yet, as always, you back the minority opinion.
You probably think 9/11 was fake.
Thanks for revealing your belief that truth is to be settled by popular opinion. Consequently, you obviously accept what the mainstream media and the U.S. government claim about 9/11.
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#67 Mar 16, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
You are trying to argue that the people you are backing are the ONLY people in the world who have an education.
That's not what I've said. Furthermore, the written record clearly affirms my faith that believers in the third demon's message are persuaded by incentives and propaganda to side with the masters of mankind.
http://everythingimportant.org/

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#68 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I'm a math professor that dabbles in physics. Furthermore, Hilbert's program for the axiomatization of physics is the highest and purest form of science ever conceptualized by the human mind.
You can just say, "No I am not a scientist." It would save us all time.

I Love that cartoon. Dilbert is hilarious. Just like you.

I didn't know that middle school math teachers called professors.

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#69 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>No, My links on AIDS clearly show that I'm a fan of brilliant Nobel Laureates, accomplished cell biologists, award-winning journalists and courageous political activists. In comparison to them, you're just a pathetic Sub duc that continually demonstrates believing that ad hominem fallacies trump scientific theses and perfectly logical arguments.
Let us know when you start with the rational and logical arguments Dr. Pseudoscience.
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#70 Mar 18, 2013
Dan,

Please let me know how I've insulted your religious beliefs.

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#71 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>You need to get your vision checked. Either that or learn to read.
My vision is fine and I can read quite well. For instance I only have had to read a few of your posts and a small portion of your blow-g to know the kind of wanna be pseudoscientist that I am dealing with. I understand that as science advances and we learn more about the world, that you have begun to fear for the continuity and stability of your belief system. I understand the reactionary position you have taken in an effort to deal with the impact of scientific advances. I am so sorry to tell you that your faux theories and pretention to a more illustriious position in science than you have earned will be for naught. On the up side, it is fun watching a selfimportant gas bag wheel out his bigotry, arrogance and foolishness on here. Keep up the good work. I need a laugh now and again.

If you really want to do some science and put your money where you mouth is, innoculate yourself with blood from an HIV patient carrying a huge viral load. You can be fulfilling one of the postulates that way as well. What have you got to worry about, AIDS isn't real anyway right.

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#72 Mar 18, 2013
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Dan,
Please let me know how I've insulted your religious beliefs.
You haven't that I am aware of. If I haven't insulted you please let me know and I will redouble my efforts.

I don't care about your religious beliefs at all, but you are trying to synthesize them with science and pass it off as a marvelous new feild of study and I find that not to be insulting but dangerous and destructive. You are trying to pass yourself off as a scientist or at least an expert in the field of evolution, as well when you are not. Seems to me that if you have to pretend, you are already lost and have lost.

Non of your little blog has contributed to breaking new ground. It is just your opinion dressed up in some technical clothing to sound important. I think that is what you really want is to be seen as important. You should have gotten into research.

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#73 Mar 18, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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You are trying to argue that the people you are backing are the ONLY people in the world who have an education.
However, for every one person at your side of the table, there are 1000 over here who have the same or BETTER educations, the same of BETTER credentials.
Yet, as always, you back the minority opinion.
You probably think 9/11 was fake.
I think Shubbee backs these poeple as if their accomplishment and education somehow wash off on him. He would only choose the best because he sees himself as the best.
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#74 Mar 18, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
If you really want to do some science and put your money where you mouth is, innoculate yourself with blood from an HIV patient carrying a huge viral load.
That wouldn't prove that a virus causes AIDS. When will you start learning some basic science?
http://everythingimportant.org/AZT/

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#75 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>That wouldn't prove that a virus causes AIDS. When will you start learning some basic science?
http://everythingimportant.org/AZT/
When will you start learning subtext. I don't care if it proves that the virus gives you AIDS or not, that has been done. I was just hoping you might actually do it.

Since you aren't a scientist, I wouldn't expect you to recognize or understand science when you see it. I am writing in terms you would recognize though and you obviously did.
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#76 Mar 18, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
If you really want to do some science and put your money where you mouth is, innoculate yourself with blood from an HIV patient carrying a huge viral load. You can be fulfilling one of the postulates that way as well.
Why are you so certain that you haven't been seduced by cleverly invented propaganda? Why do you believe everything that the pharmaceutical industry tells you about AIDS and AZT?
http://everythingimportant.org/AZT/

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#77 Mar 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you so certain that you haven't been seduced by cleverly invented propaganda? Why do you believe everything that the pharmaceutical industry tells you about AIDS and AZT?
http://everythingimportant.org/AZT/
Why do you pretend to know where my information and conclusions come from? Why do you think think the pharmaceutical industry talks to me at all? Why do you base your decision making on your religious bias and not on facts? Is it only cleverly invented propaganda because you have religious reasons against it? Why do you pretend you are a scientist when you are not?

Besides your religious propaganda, you do not appear to have anything substantive to support your argument do you? If you did, I have no doubt you would have paraded it out by now.

Good luck with your continued efforts to establish scientific credibility without conducting any actual science. I am interested to see your results.
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#78 Mar 18, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
Why do you think think the pharmaceutical industry talks to me at all?
Because drug money controls the National Academy of Sciences, National Institutes of Health, the FDA, WHO and UNAIDS, which you trust as representatives of legitimate science.
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#79 Mar 19, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
I don't care if it proves that the virus gives you AIDS or not, that has been done.
Dr. Peter Duesberg and I would like to know where.
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#80 Mar 19, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
I think Shubbee backs these poeple as if their accomplishment and education somehow wash off on him. He would only choose the best because he sees himself as the best.
"Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person's reward." -- Jesus of Nazareth.

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