Anti-Darwin 'Expelled' Film, Atheist Saboteurs Clash Ahead of Release

Apr 5, 2008 Full story: www.christianpost.com 2,556

As the pro-intelligent design documentary "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" makes its way to select audiences, its producers worry that intelligent design opponents may try to sabotage it even before the ...

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Wayne

United States

#1 Apr 5, 2008
Shoes on the other foot now? They block creation teaching out of schools but when they are blocked from screening the movie they cry like a bunch of babies.
Gillette

Ottumwa, IA

#2 Apr 5, 2008
Wayne

Even someone of your intelligence ought to be able to see the irony in people who complain about how science censors their point of view themselves censoring feedback on their movie.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#3 Apr 5, 2008
"...its producers worry that intelligent design opponents may try to sabotage it even before..." Geez, more BS from the liars for Jesus. Either that or their paranoid obsession with martyrdom is kicking in.

I think the producers really shot themselves in the foot when they wouldn't let PZ Myers in to view a preview. And then they lied about why they wouldn't let him in.

The people associated with this film just can't seem to stop lying. First they obtained the interviews under false pretenses. Then they quote mine the interviews for the film. Then they use all sorts of propaganda techniques to distort what is being said. And on-and-on. Disgusting.
Wayne

United States

#4 Apr 5, 2008
Gillette wrote:
Wayne
Even someone of your intelligence ought to be able to see the irony in people who complain about how science censors their point of view themselves censoring feedback on their movie.
The movie will be out soon enough. There will be PLENTY of time for feedback after that. The producers just don't want it sabotaged before it has a chance to be seen by the public, that's all.
Wayne

United States

#5 Apr 5, 2008
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
"...its producers worry that intelligent design opponents may try to sabotage it even before..." Geez, more BS from the liars for Jesus. Either that or their paranoid obsession with martyrdom is kicking in.
I think the producers really shot themselves in the foot when they wouldn't let PZ Myers in to view a preview. And then they lied about why they wouldn't let him in.
The people associated with this film just can't seem to stop lying. First they obtained the interviews under false pretenses. Then they quote mine the interviews for the film. Then they use all sorts of propaganda techniques to distort what is being said. And on-and-on. Disgusting.
I don't even see what the big fuss is about Myers and Dawkins wanting in the reviewing of the movie anyways. AFTER it comes out they will have all the time they want to pick it apart. It's almost as if they want it banned before it comes out. Why is that if they are so secure in their beliefs?

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#6 Apr 5, 2008
Wayne wrote:
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I don't even see what the big fuss is about Myers and Dawkins wanting in the reviewing of the movie anyways. AFTER it comes out they will have all the time they want to pick it apart. It's almost as if they want it banned before it comes out. Why is that if they are so secure in their beliefs?
Well, Dawkins did get to see the preview. However, I do find it very hypocritical of the producers to keep Myers out given the supposed theme of the movie.

They talk about scientists "censoring" cdesign proponentists, then go out of their way to censor anyone with a dissenting view to that of the movie. Very much a pot-kettle type thing.

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Since: Sep 07

United States

#7 Apr 5, 2008
Wayne wrote:
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The movie will be out soon enough. There will be PLENTY of time for feedback after that. The producers just don't want it sabotaged before it has a chance to be seen by the public, that's all.
If the producers didn't want PZ et al from participating in the film, then THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE SOUGHT THEM OUT FOR AN INTERVIEW.

You don't get to put someone in your film, then refuse to let them see or comment on the film.

These fundamentalists (like all fundamentalists) rely entirely on lies. Just like they lied under oath in Dover, just like they lie on their websites, just like they lie in debates, just like they lied to get the interviews in the first place.

Their issue isn't that they are being censored, they are upset because people aren't letting them get away with lying.

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

United States

#8 Apr 5, 2008
Wayne wrote:
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I don't even see what the big fuss is about Myers and Dawkins wanting in the reviewing of the movie anyways. AFTER it comes out they will have all the time they want to pick it apart. It's almost as if they want it banned before it comes out. Why is that if they are so secure in their beliefs?
The movie IS out. It's being shown to audiences.

Haven't you ever noticed that movie reviews in the paper are available for you to READ on FRIDAY MORNING of the same day the film opens.

Reviews are DONE so that audiences can find out what a movie is about before spending 10 bucks and 2 hours of their time.

Why hide the content from the audience? What are these fundamentalists trying to keep secret? What hidden agenda do they have?
Wayne

United States

#9 Apr 5, 2008
Wait till the movie gets out and let the public decide.
Atheist

Windsor, Canada

#10 Apr 5, 2008
Hey Wayne..

I wonder if the shoe was on the foot and there was an Purely Atheist movie explaining how much a load of Crap the bible, God and Jesus are,,, how many Christians do you think would be there trying to do the same thing,, if Not worse...??

I think there would be a huge Christian uproar that would be in every newspaper and TV station across the Southern US..
For sure George would be all over it like a Fly on Stink...

It's Funny as hell that Dawkins got in without anyone catching him...

Atheist

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

United States

#11 Apr 5, 2008
Wayne wrote:
Wait till the movie gets out and let the public decide.
Facts aren't up for a vote, no matter how desperately you want them to be.

The public can "decide" that the Sun goes around the Earth, didn't make it true when they wrote the Bible. Doesn't make it true now. Won't make it true in the future.
Wayne

United States

#12 Apr 5, 2008
Nuggin wrote:
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Facts aren't up for a vote, no matter how desperately you want them to be.
The public can "decide" that the Sun goes around the Earth, didn't make it true when they wrote the Bible. Doesn't make it true now. Won't make it true in the future.
Ok O Enlightened One. I didn't mean to blaspheme.
Wayne

United States

#13 Apr 5, 2008
Atheist wrote:
Hey Wayne..
I wonder if the shoe was on the foot and there was an Purely Atheist movie explaining how much a load of Crap the bible, God and Jesus are,,, how many Christians do you think would be there trying to do the same thing,, if Not worse...??
I think there would be a huge Christian uproar that would be in every newspaper and TV station across the Southern US..
For sure George would be all over it like a Fly on Stink...
It's Funny as hell that Dawkins got in without anyone catching him...
Atheist
Oh get over yourself, would you? The shoe has ALWAYS been on the Christian foot. Were atheists fed to the lions and burnt at the stake? Now we see what kind of whinebags the atheists are, don't we?
george anderson jr

Winter Garden, FL

#14 Apr 5, 2008
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts aren't up for a vote, no matter how desperately you want them to be.
The public can "decide" that the Sun goes around the Earth, didn't make it true when they wrote the Bible. Doesn't make it true now. Won't make it true in the future.
so now the public is GOD,rofl you really are a wacky person aren't you,silly person the only one who gets to decide when and where the sun goes is GOD and you certainly are not him neither is the general public for that matter<<rolls eyes>>.THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

“Atheist and Proud !”

Since: Nov 07

Ontario,Canada

#15 Apr 5, 2008
Hello

Wayne..

Was it Atheists Feeding Christians to the Lions ??

Yes,, you are beginning to see just how much Atheists are Windbags...

Thank God for the Internet,,so we now have our Voices back...

Atheist

“Atheist and Proud !”

Since: Nov 07

Ontario,Canada

#16 Apr 5, 2008
Wayne as far as burning at the stake..

I wonder what the Christian /Pagan/Wiccan ratio is for burning at the Stake ??

I'd bet good money more Pagans/Wiccans were burned at the stake by Christians !

"I'd Rather have a Hot Stake than a Cold Chop" - Curly Howard

Atheist

“Atheist and Proud !”

Since: Nov 07

Ontario,Canada

#17 Apr 5, 2008
Hello

George..

"THOSE ARE THE FACTS."

Those are your Christian "Facts"..

Not Everyone's "Facts"

Now thats the "Facts" Brother George!

Atheist
Wayne

United States

#18 Apr 5, 2008
Atheist wrote:
Wayne as far as burning at the stake..
I wonder what the Christian /Pagan/Wiccan ratio is for burning at the Stake ??
I'd bet good money more Pagans/Wiccans were burned at the stake by Christians !
"I'd Rather have a Hot Stake than a Cold Chop" - Curly Howard
Atheist
Do a quick look for Christians persecuted under Rome. I think you'll be surprised.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#19 Apr 5, 2008
Wayne wrote:
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Do a quick look for Christians persecuted under Rome. I think you'll be surprised.
And why don't you do a quick look at non-Christians being persecuted by Christians. That has happened a LOT over the last 2000 years. Including many, many burnings at the stake.
Wayne

United States

#20 Apr 5, 2008
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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And why don't you do a quick look at non-Christians being persecuted by Christians. That has happened a LOT over the last 2000 years. Including many, many burnings at the stake.
I think you are getting Christians mixed up with catholics. That happens a lot. Besides, why should we burn anyone at the stake? There are plenty that are making their way to the lake of fire by themselves. BIIIIIG bonfire!

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