Intelligent Design: Slowly Going Out ...

Intelligent Design: Slowly Going Out of Style?

There are 29 comments on the The Atlantic story from Jun 9, 2014, titled Intelligent Design: Slowly Going Out of Style?. In it, The Atlantic reports that:

A survey suggests Americans are finding it easier to fit both science and religion into their understanding of the origins of man.

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The Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#1 Jun 11, 2014
The day intelligent design goes out of style; everything that man has designed by his own intelligence goes out of style also.

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Everett, WA

#2 Jun 11, 2014
The Hand of God wrote:
The day intelligent design goes out of style; everything that man has designed by his own intelligence goes out of style also.
Didn't you read the article? More people accept the theory of evolution than ever.

In case you did not know that is good news.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#3 Jun 11, 2014
Over 50% of Americans are on multiple behind the counter drugs and over the counter medications. Americans have allowed crimes against humanity at accelerated rates from their own leaders... from abortion to euthanasia to eugenics to violating other nation's sovereignty by funding the bombing of civilians. Americans have sat back and watched neighbors and family members lose their jobs because saving 25 cents on underwear by buying outsourced and foreign goods was more important than supporting their own blood. Americans have allowed activists promoting the deviance and maladjustment of one and one half percent of the population to define morality and impact government services. Americans have justified, or rationalized their own blood lying, cheating and stealing to survive with 50 inch flat screen TVs paid for by public funds. Americans have allowed the sale of their birthrights, their utilities and fundamental needs to foreign firms through scams and repeated sales that end up enslaving them, their neighbors and their families.

An America so utterly degraded and egocentric has lost the capacity for learning, or doing good. A great number of Americans have become convinced having a long lasting erection is the most important thing in life and they are willing to poison themselves and their progeny by taking more drugs. The majority of young people have been doped from early childhood, so they actually are incapable of knowing their thinking is permanently disordered and delusional. Americans are in denial. They don't even consider that any of the above leads to one in seventy children now being autistic. Increased childhood disorders abound and the American parent continues to be led by the nose by the pharmaceutical industries, Marxists and illegal dope pushers.

What in hell would a depraved people like that know about God?

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Since: May 08

Melbourne, Australia

#4 Jun 11, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Over 50% of Americans <blah, blah blah, blah>

What in hell would a depraved people like that know about God?
I hope the Dude doesn't read this - think of the kittens, man!
El Pollo Loco

Phoenix, AZ

#5 Jun 11, 2014
The Hand of God wrote:
The day intelligent design goes out of style; everything that man has designed by his own intelligence goes out of style also.
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Phoenix, AZ

#6 Jun 11, 2014
just kidding kids!!! ;-000
The Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#7 Jun 11, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Didn't you read the article? More people accept the theory of evolution than ever.
And what if they do?

The first reason why people choose is because they can.

People will always tend to demonstrate a "will to prefer"; even if the choice is between a "tomato" and a "tomatto".

That the whole universe should accept the theory of evolution does not suggest that it is more true nor accurate than Creationist concepts.

Truth is not arrived at by popular vote. A thing wont because true just because everybody accepts it.
Subduction Zone wrote:
In case you did not know that is good news.
It may very well be.
The Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#8 Jun 11, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Didn't you read the article? More people accept the theory of evolution than ever.
In case you did not know that is good news.
Intelligent design may well be going out of style; I have noticed that even the people who are disposed to the scientific dont seem to bother with it anymore.
iGoooooooof

Phoenix, AZ

#9 Jun 11, 2014
The Hand of God wrote:
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And what if they do?
The first reason why people choose is because they can.
People will always tend to demonstrate a "will to prefer"; even if the choice is between a "tomato" and a "tomatto".
That the whole universe should accept the theory of evolution does not suggest that it is more true nor accurate than Creationist concepts.
Truth is not arrived at by popular vote. A thing wont because true just because everybody accepts it.
<quoted text>
It may very well be.
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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#10 Jun 12, 2014
Bluenose wrote:
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I hope the Dude doesn't read this - think of the kittens, man!
Ah don't worry, I think our buddy in Jamaica killed it first!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#11 Jun 12, 2014
The Hand of God wrote:
That the whole universe should accept the theory of evolution does not suggest that it is more true nor accurate than Creationist concepts.
No, the scientifif method is what determined it to be more acccurate than creationist concepts.
The Hand of God wrote:
Truth is not arrived at by popular vote. A thing wont because true just because everybody accepts it.
Correct. So just because the majority of the world consider themselves theists, doesn't mean they're right.

Of course this is irrelevant to the validity of evolution. There are only three possibilities:

1 - Either God doesn't exist and evolution is a fact.

2 - Evolution is a fact because Goddidit.

3 - The entire universe is an illusion and evidence does not exist.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#12 Jun 12, 2014
The Hand of God wrote:
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Intelligent design may well be going out of style; I have noticed that even the people who are disposed to the scientific dont seem to bother with it anymore.
"Anymore"?

Bub, scientists have never bothered with ID at all because it isn't science. It's religious apologetics.

As for the IDCers themselves, they didn't bother to attempt to turn it into a scientific investigation. And now they don't even bother to pretend it's NOT religious apologetics anymore.

ID is dead. It died in 2005.

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#13 Jun 12, 2014
The Hand of God wrote:
The day intelligent design goes out of style; everything that man has designed by his own intelligence goes out of style also.
That doesn't make any sense.
cancer suxs

Faribault, MN

#14 Jun 12, 2014
There is no god people grow up..
Taco Bells

Phoenix, AZ

#15 Jun 12, 2014
cancer suxs wrote:
There is no god people grow up..
;) U sure? don't think-tank? think-god?!!! E. Pluribus Unum#cansir suxs!! ;-00
Taco Bells

Phoenix, AZ

#16 Jun 12, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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No, the scientifif method is what determined it to be more acccurate than creationist concepts.
<quoted text>
Correct. So just because the majority of the world consider themselves theists, doesn't mean they're right.
Of course this is irrelevant to the validity of evolution. There are only three possibilities:
1 - Either God doesn't exist and evolution is a fact.
2 - Evolution is a fact because Goddidit.
3 - The entire universe is an illusion and evidence does not exist.
Cambridge, UK Pro. Steven Hawkin already ( no GoD in the University ) & he did speech in ASU!! ;-000h, he got the Esssssay for ASU ( Dear Alien ) ;)
The Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#17 Jun 12, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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No, the scientifif method is what determined it to be more acccurate than creationist concepts.
<quoted text>
That may very well be.

However, not all of the people who prefer evolution theory do so because of the consistency of the concept.
The Dude wrote:
Correct. So just because the majority of the world consider themselves theists, doesn't mean they're right.
Exactly!

There are some theological concepts which are more (logically) accurate and hence more valuable than others.
The Dude wrote:
Of course this is irrelevant to the validity of evolution. There are only three possibilities:
1 - Either God doesn't exist and evolution is a fact.
2 - Evolution is a fact because Goddidit.
3 - The entire universe is an illusion and evidence does not exist.
I dont agree with the phrasing of item "1 -".

Are you suggesting that the validity of one of the ideas invalidates the other?

That is certainly not the case.

Human progress in using the concept of evolution to create and design (intelligently), demonstrates that evolution could be effectively directed by intelligent influences (we humans in this case).

As such, if I assume that a process such as evolution was employed by "God"; the validity of that suggestion would depend on WHAT I describe "God" to be.
The Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#18 Jun 12, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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"Anymore"?
Bub, scientists have never bothered with ID at all because it isn't science...
I know.

Thats why the products of scientific thought are becoming increasingly absurd.

Is it irrational for a human being to believe in human potential?

And whereas the human being was formed from the world around him: is he irrational for assuming that the potentials he finds in himself originated from mechanisms or influences in the world which created him?

You dont believe in intelligent design, therefore your own ability to design (or structure) intelligently is questionable.
The Dude wrote:
It's religious apologetics.
As for the IDCers themselves, they didn't bother to attempt to turn it into a scientific investigation. And now they don't even bother to pretend it's NOT religious apologetics anymore.
ID is dead. It died in 2005.
"IDCers" represent an institution, which is dependent on other institutions with different interests.

So that they didnt even bother to attempt to turn it into a scientific investigation, suggests that they are not interested to do so.

It does not immediately suggest that it cannot be turned into one... therefore there is no need to mention such things in the future.
The Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#19 Jun 12, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>That doesn't make any sense.
See what I mean?

Intelligence means one thing, no matter whether it is demonstrated by God, man or the spaghetti monster...

Therefore the same implications that exist for intelligent design as it relates to the works of "God", are the same implications which exist for man as it related to the products of his hand and mind.

If I assume that we are created by an intelligent "force", then the implication is that our intelligence would be formed from its intelligence.

As such if it were not intelligent, you cannot be intelligent.

If its designs by intelligence goes out of style, so do ours.
The Dude

Woodford Green, UK

#21 Jun 12, 2014
The Hand of God wrote:
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That may very well be.
However, not all of the people who prefer evolution theory do so because of the consistency of the concept.
Doesn't matter. Fact is the scientists who accept evolution do so because of the consistency of the concept. Because it words.
The Hand of God wrote:
Exactly!
There are some theological concepts which are more (logically) accurate and hence more valuable than others.
Theological opinions can't be verified therefore are only valuable as placebo.
The Hand of God wrote:
I dont agree with the phrasing of item "1 -".
Your personal opinions are irrelevant.
The Hand of God wrote:
Are you suggesting that the validity of one of the ideas invalidates the other?
That is certainly not the case.
Human progress in using the concept of evolution to create and design (intelligently), demonstrates that evolution could be effectively directed by intelligent influences (we humans in this case).
As such, if I assume that a process such as evolution was employed by "God"; the validity of that suggestion would depend on WHAT I describe "God" to be.
No, the validity of such is dependent upon the mechanisms you think are responsible and your ability to demonstrate them.

So far you haven't shown to possess that ability.

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