Historically... How old IS Humanity?

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#21 Mar 21, 2008
ImNoMonkey wrote:
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God is great and God put it there. Oh come on, why can't you see the obvious? I am praying for you.
God bless you.
PS - your monkey mother wants to know why you never write!!!
Ah, yes. Now we see the insults begin.

I anticipated your answer, since it is one that creationists give quite often. However, this answer raises other disturbing questions.

For example, in 1987 we observed a spectacular supernova in the Larger Magellanic Cloud, a small galaxy about 100,000 light years away. Meaning it happened about 100,000 years ago.

So, if your thesis is correct, and God created the light on the way, that means this supernova never happened...because nothing is older than 10,000 years. In other words, God just made stuff up that never happened.

In fact, we see supernovae in far off galaxies all the time, ones that are millions or even billions of light years away. Meaning the supernovae would have happened million or billions of years in the past...along with all sorts of other celestial events.

Are you claiming they never happened? That God just made it look like they happened? That God is lying to us?
EADGBE

United States

#22 Mar 21, 2008
ImNoMonkey wrote:
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God is great and God put it there. Oh come on, why can't you see the obvious? I am praying for you.
God bless you.
PS - your monkey mother wants to know why you never write!!!
Your version of God is quite the "trickster"? How cruel to plant such evidence then require us to deny it...

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#23 Mar 22, 2008
ImNoMonkey wrote:
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God is great...
Have you ever consider that this phrase, "God is great", translated into Arabic is "Allah Akbar"...the phrase shouted by Muslim extremists?

“God Is Love”

Since: Mar 08

Perkasie, PA

#24 Mar 22, 2008
Nuggin wrote:
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I'm beginning to this we have a Russell's law situation here.
I don't think that Monkey is who Monkey claims to be. The posts are just a little _too_ stupid to be real. I suspect Monkey is actually someone like Polly or Hex playing a joke on us.
I looked up "Russell's law" - how can you say that the truth of the Lord is parody? I found no mention of Polly or Hex's laws. Could you please explain?

God bless you?

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

United States

#25 Mar 22, 2008
ImNoMonkey wrote:
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I looked up "Russell's law" - how can you say that the truth of the Lord is parody? I found no mention of Polly or Hex's laws. Could you please explain?
God bless you?
Polly and Hex aren't laws they are other posters.

Russell's law states that it is impossible to distinguish a real Creationist from someone doing a parody of a Creationist.

This is because the arguments utilitized by Creationists are so patently absurd, that there is no higher level upon which to lampoon them.

The BEST you can do in mocking a Creationist is merely quoting a Creationist.

This is why we can't determine if you are actually a Creationist posting dribble or if you are a wry scientist deliberately posing as a Creationist.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#26 Mar 22, 2008
Nuggin wrote:
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This is why we can't determine if you are actually a Creationist posting dribble or if you are a wry scientist deliberately posing as a Creationist.
...posting dribble.

There! I had to properly finish your implied sentence. <grin>

For the ONLY thing that Creationism has to offer is... DRIBBLE!

Since: Nov 07

Somewhere near you

#27 Mar 22, 2008
hmmm, when working with the speed of light, did one account for lack of spacial resistance, such as air, which the particles would of course cause light to be slowed a small amount. If it takes a while for light to travel from one point to another, how does one measure the distance between galaxies and stars without using light as a base first?

“God Is Love”

Since: Mar 08

Perkasie, PA

#28 Mar 22, 2008
@Nuggin

You make no sense. How is the word of God "dribble"? God's word is perfect. As my pastor revealed to me "Why would you not believe when you have faith?" Makes sense to you now doesn't it? Or are you afraid to face what is real?

God bless you.

Since: May 07

Norristown, PA

#29 Mar 22, 2008
RMB Furion wrote:
hmmm, when working with the speed of light, did one account for lack of spacial resistance, such as air, which the particles would of course cause light to be slowed a small amount. If it takes a while for light to travel from one point to another, how does one measure the distance between galaxies and stars without using light as a base first?
Uh, yeah, they did. When people talk about the speed of light, it's implied that they're talking about the speed of light *in a vacuum*.

-pb

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

United States

#30 Mar 22, 2008
ImNoMonkey wrote:
@Nuggin
You make no sense. How is the word of God "dribble"? God's word is perfect. As my pastor revealed to me "Why would you not believe when you have faith?" Makes sense to you now doesn't it? Or are you afraid to face what is real?
God bless you.
God's word may be perfect, but you aren't God. You have the outstanding hubris to claim that YOU ALONE speak for God.

There is reality. Then there is what you claim to be real.

What you claim to be real is not reality.

So, if (and this is a HUGE if) God told you the things you claim he told you, then God is playing one hell of a practical joke on you.

Since: Nov 07

Somewhere near you

#32 Mar 22, 2008
pb, did they test it down to the smallest decimal inside a vacuum, or did they test it in a normal lab without having the air taken out? Or did they even care to try? Because even when it comes to the smallest decimal, distance multiplied without a consistent obstruction can definitely cause a slight difference.

If you do not know for sure, find out, because it would be a good idea.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Level 2

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#33 Mar 22, 2008
ImNoMonkey wrote:
@Nuggin
You make no sense. How is the word of God "dribble"? God's word is perfect. As my pastor revealed to me "Why would you not believe when you have faith?" Makes sense to you now doesn't it? Or are you afraid to face what is real?
God bless you.
This has GOT to be a fake creationist.

Or, perhaps an internet Troll.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#34 Mar 22, 2008
RMB Furion wrote:
pb, did they test it down to the smallest decimal inside a vacuum, or did they test it in a normal lab without having the air taken out? Or did they even care to try? Because even when it comes to the smallest decimal, distance multiplied without a consistent obstruction can definitely cause a slight difference.
If you do not know for sure, find out, because it would be a good idea.
RMB...NOTHING can be measured down to the smallest decimal. However, they have measured the speed of light to a high degree of accuracy.

Since: May 07

Norristown, PA

#35 Mar 22, 2008
RMB Furion wrote:
pb, did they test it down to the smallest decimal inside a vacuum, or did they test it in a normal lab without having the air taken out? Or did they even care to try? Because even when it comes to the smallest decimal, distance multiplied without a consistent obstruction can definitely cause a slight difference.
If you do not know for sure, find out, because it would be a good idea.
They've calculated pi to over a trillion decimal places. I'm confident that calculations involving the speed of light are sufficiently accurate to debunk your ludicrous theories.

-pb

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#36 Mar 22, 2008
pbagosy wrote:
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They've calculated pi to over a trillion decimal places. I'm confident that calculations involving the speed of light are sufficiently accurate to debunk your ludicrous theories.
-pb
I will point out, pb, that Pi is a mathematical constant and can be mathematically calculated in several different ways that require no measurements.

The speed of light, however, is a physical constant and the accuracy is subject to the instruments being used to make the measurements.

That being said, I do know that c has been measured to over 10 decimal places of accuracy, which is far more accuracy than most uses require.

The often used approximation of 300,000 km/s is off by less that 1 part in 1000...which is more than sufficient for any ballpark calculations.

Since: Nov 07

Somewhere near you

#37 Mar 22, 2008
the decimal places show accuracy, but is the initial test that gets that result accurate on what it needs to be?

note that without all variables taken into consideration, a test cannot have an accurate outcome.

If I tested a piece of bread on water to see if it would float with objects upon it, I would have to see what mass an object would have to be to sink it, but without going that far, you could only conclude that a piece of bread could not sink while spread out.

This is why I must know if all variables for the SoL test were taken into consideration.

as the google calculator has it, the speed of light is shown as not a speed, but an acceleration, meaning that the further the distance, the faster it should become, or the slower time around it should become if you're into that kind of science lol.

I will discuss more about that later, right now I have GOT to get some sleep for easter tomorrow lol, night everyone.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#38 Mar 22, 2008
RMB Furion wrote:
as the google calculator has it, the speed of light is shown as not a speed, but an acceleration, meaning that the further the distance, the faster it should become, or the slower time around it should become if you're into that kind of science lol.
I will discuss more about that later, right now I have GOT to get some sleep for easter tomorrow lol, night everyone.
No, RMB. The units given by Google are meters per second, which is a measure of velocity.
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Oreland, PA

#39 Mar 22, 2008
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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No, civilizations date back farther than the Sumerians. The earliest known pottery shards are, IIRC, from the far east, either China or Japan.
Interesting, but what about agriculture?

“Rattling for Chemistry”

Since: Dec 06

Deep Swamps of Georgia

#40 Mar 23, 2008
Nuggin wrote:
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I'm beginning to this we have a Russell's law situation here.
I don't think that Monkey is who Monkey claims to be. The posts are just a little _too_ stupid to be real. I suspect Monkey is actually someone like Polly or Hex playing a joke on us.
Not me....I am well known to joke as in the Bedrock community with the Flintstones.

“Rattling for Chemistry”

Since: Dec 06

Deep Swamps of Georgia

#41 Mar 23, 2008
umm...Hex's law now that sounds rather catchy.

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