James Le Fanu debunking Darwinism
The Dude

Sunderland, UK

#21 Mar 5, 2012
Logic and Design wrote:
Here is a question that demands an answer:
IF the universe came into existence as a Big Bang in a sterile environment without any life and...
IF the explosion sent massive amounts of sterile gases and molten metals expanding outward in a sterile environment and...
IF the sterile solar system and sterile earth were formed from some of these sterile materials then...
Could you please demonstrate for us all exactly how life could spontaneously arise from this sterile earth when NOBODY has been able to do so in any controlled lab experiments?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_gene...
Sterile environments cannot create life! This has been established thru hundreds of scientific experiments. So the darwinists must overthrow SCIENCE in order to keep believing that life can spontaneously arise from any chemical stew or soup!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
Darwinists demand that everybody must believe their absurd claim of abiogenesis when that theory has already been debunked by hundreds of scientific experiments. "When you rule out the impossible (abiogenesis), then whatever remains, however improbable (intelligent design) must be the truth." Logic defeats darwinism every time.
This BS has been addressed. Twice. Spamming makes kittehs cry.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#22 Mar 6, 2012
Shadow wrote:
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instead of discussing jesus that would be off topic actually, I would actually like to know what you think about James Le Fanu
Are you actually looking for a serious conversation? After all that bullshit you've posted? Really?

As for Le Fanu, not much. While I can agree with some - but certainly not all - of his criticisms of modern medicine, his criticism of Darwin and ToE is woo-woo. He's highly critical of established science but offers only his unsubstantiated 'we iz one with da universe'. You might note that the reviews of "Why Us" have been less than stellar.

May the force be with you.
Mighty Dollar

Great Neck, NY

#23 Mar 6, 2012
Amen brother. But I also recommend some Kent Hovind in regards to debunking this evolution myth.

"I have a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.* My $250,000 offer demonstrates that the hypothesis of evolution is nothing more than a religious belief." ~Kent Hovind

If evolution means we come from a common ancestor of a monkey, what's to stop you from marrying one?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#24 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Amen brother. But I also recommend some Kent Hovind in regards to debunking this evolution myth.
"I have a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.* My $250,000 offer demonstrates that the hypothesis of evolution is nothing more than a religious belief." ~Kent Hovind
If evolution means we come from a common ancestor of a monkey, what's to stop you from marrying one?
Might be tough to get that payoff since Kent (06452-017) is still in jail for criminal tax evasion and most of his property has been seized.
Mighty Dollar

Great Neck, NY

#25 Mar 6, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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Might be tough to get that payoff since Kent (06452-017) is still in jail for criminal tax evasion and most of his property has been seized.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#26 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Amen brother. But I also recommend some Kent Hovind in regards to debunking this evolution myth.
"I have a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.* My $250,000 offer demonstrates that the hypothesis of evolution is nothing more than a religious belief." ~Kent Hovind
If evolution means we come from a common ancestor of a monkey, what's to stop you from marrying one?
You mean the guy who lied to the taxman, and to the general public about being a "doctor", as well as to all those who took his challenge and won?

But wait, they didn't win because Kent kept on moving the goalposts.

And it wasn't even his money anyway.

By the way, ask him what he thinks of "love offerings" now!(grin)

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#27 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
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Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake
Oh, I get it. He ripped of the government in Jesus' name. No problem.

Did he try that defense in court?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#28 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
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Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake
So we are blessed, as you keep lying about us?

Thanks, but martyrdom ain't for me.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#29 Mar 6, 2012
off!
Mighty Dollar

Great Neck, NY

#30 Mar 6, 2012
No. You are speaking false claims about Mr. Hovind.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#31 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
No. You are speaking false claims about Mr. Hovind.
What lies are we spreading about, Oops I dropped my soap again Kent?

He is in federal prison right now for tax evasion. Didn't even Jesus ask who's picture was on the money and then declare "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"? You don't get a ten or eleven year sentence for playing patty cake.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#32 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
No. You are speaking false claims about Mr. Hovind.
Tell it to the IRS.
Mighty Dollar

Great Neck, NY

#33 Mar 6, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What lies are we spreading about, Oops I dropped my soap again Kent?
He is in federal prison right now for tax evasion. Didn't even Jesus ask who's picture was on the money and then declare "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"? You don't get a ten or eleven year sentence for playing patty cake.
So you cannot refute the facts he presents about evolution and creationism and yet all you can do is focus on the things he has done? That seems unfair.

Hitler was apparently a big fan of evolution you know. Evolution isn't false because these guys did their evil deeds based on evolution. Evolution is false because it is a religion of Satan.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#34 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
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So you cannot refute the facts he presents about evolution and creationism and yet all you can do is focus on the things he has done? That seems unfair.
Here ya go. From the creationist side of things:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind#From...
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Hitler was apparently a big fan of evolution you know. Evolution isn't false because these guys did their evil deeds based on evolution.
Darwin's writing were banned by Hitler. I see you're not a student of history either
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Evolution is false because it is a religion of Satan.
1) Evolution is not a religion.
2) There is no Satan.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#35 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
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So you cannot refute the facts he presents about evolution and creationism and yet all you can do is focus on the things he has done? That seems unfair.
Actually he doesn't have facts about evolution, he has lies, absurd lies, and even more absurd lies. In fact his stuff is so dumb that sometimes even other creationists don't take him seriously. That's how bad he is.
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Hitler was apparently a big fan of evolution you know. Evolution isn't false because these guys did their evil deeds based on evolution.
Actually Hitler was a big fan of God, and what he did was based on his ideas of what God wanted him to do.

It certainly wasn't based on evolution as what he did kinda flies right in the face of natural selection.

Of course if you even had the slightest clue about what you were talking about you'd already know that.
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Evolution is false because it is a religion of Satan.
Right. Evolution ain't false because of science, it's because of some magical red little horny dude with a pitchfork who lives underground.

I take it you've given up on the science aspect or being taken seriously then?

Probably a good idea...
Mighty Dollar

Great Neck, NY

#36 Mar 6, 2012
Evolution is easily refuted by science.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#37 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Evolution is easily refuted by science.
Really? Tell that to the evangelical Christians at Baylor University, the "largest Baptist University in the world," where the students go on mission trips, etc.

This is from the Biology Department at Baylor:
http://www.baylor.edu/biology/index.php...

Statement on Evolution
"Evolution, a foundational principle of modern biology, is supported by overwhelming scientific evidence and is accepted by the vast majority of scientists. Because it is fundamental to the understanding of modern biology, the faculty in the Biology Department at Baylor University, Waco, TX, teach evolution throughout the biology curriculum. We are in accordance with the American Association for Advancement of Science's statement on evolution. We are a science department, so we do not teach alternative hypotheses or philosophically deduced theories that cannot be tested rigorously."

Also, here from the Baylor Geology Department:
http://www.baylor.edu/Geology/index.php...

Quote:

"Question: Does the fossil record support the idea of biological change over time (biological evolution)?

Yes. The fossil record clearly indicates...

• a progression in complexity of organisms from very simple fossil forms in the oldest rocks (>3.5 billion years old) to a broad spectrum from simple to complex forms in younger rocks,

• that some organisms that were once common are now extinct, and

• that the living organisms inhabiting our world today are similar (but generally not the same) as organisms represented as fossils in young sedimentary deposits, which in turn have evolutionary ancestors represented as fossils in yet older rocks.

Mammals, for example, are prevalent today and can be traced back in the fossil record for approximately 200 million years, but are not present as mammals in the fossil record before that; however, fossil forms that have reasonably been interpreted to be associated with the evolutionary precursors to mammals are found in older rocks.

Whether biological evolution occurs has not been a matter of scientific debate for more than a century. It is considered a proven fact."

End quote
The Dude

Sunderland, UK

#38 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Evolution is easily refuted by science.
Oh, right. That must be why you failed, miserably.(shrug)

Oh, and don't forget - you not only rejected evolution, but EVERY SINGLE FIELD OF SCIENCE. Abiogenesis? Chemistry. Age of the universe? Physics. Evolution? Biology.

Sorry, but you don't get to claim that science refutes evolution when you yourself have rejected science in its entirety in order to reject evolution because you think Goddidit with magic (not science either) instead.

So after all your mistakes, all your lies, and all your preaching about your wonderful god who frowns upon such things, and you STILL can't help being a hypocrite?

What gives?
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#39 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
No. You are speaking false claims about Mr. Hovind.
Hovind is a LIAR for Jebus.

Everyone outside of your bronze age FAIRY TALE CULT know that.
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#40 Mar 6, 2012
Mighty Dollar wrote:
Evolution is easily refuted by science.
Odd (not really) that you "fundie christian creationists" have been an ABYSMAL FAILURE at doing so for the past 200 years.

IOW your lying.

Ask yourself this question: which side of the SCIENCE vs. bronze age FAIRY TALES "debate" went from being the ONLY world view allowed in most of the Western world for almost TWO MILLENNIA (that's 2000 years, just in case you don't know), including an iron-fisted monopoly on Western scientific thought (often brutally and tyrannically enforced with imprisonment, torture and death) to being LAUGHED at by the pretty much everyone outside of a few articular bronze age "literal and inerrant" goat herder FAIRY TALE CULTS?

That will give you the answer to which side of this "debate" is "easily refuted by science".

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