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Why do half of Britons not believe in evolution?

There are 180 comments on the Examiner.com story from Jul 26, 2014, titled Why do half of Britons not believe in evolution?. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Indeed, as reported by the UK's Guardian ; Half of Britons do not believe in evolution, survey finds and Teach both evolution and creationism say 54% of Britons .

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#165 Aug 4, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Typical ignorant rant of a brain-dead crass materialist.
If you don't like materialism then stop pretending to be interested in science.

There's no such thing as "non-materialistic" science.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#166 Aug 4, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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That's a naive speculation.....
Particles could be integrating and subsequently forming atoms from primal energy from the remnants of particle-antiparticle annihilations or particles could be forming through nature processes as other particles keep decaying and disintegrating....who knows what actually is happening....
So you're saying you have no idea but science rests itself on baseless assumptions and yet you're suppposed to be taken seriously? Good to know you're consistent at least. But you should at least stop using your computer.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#167 Aug 4, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Yet, it has not resulted in the appearance of a new species.....
So he told you that speciation occurs therefore speciation does not occur? This is why science does not take your "challenges" seriously.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#168 Aug 4, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
So, he's unwilling to demonstrate his theory on evolution at the practical level in a lab using genetic manipulation techniques to introduce a few novel features (transitional characteristics) in a given organism under consideration thereby silencing all critics of evolution from within the scientific community and without. He only wants to naively speculate about certain molecular and phenotypic patterns (common features and/or a hierarchy of features) that he sees in the plethora of life forms in nature and he then blindly assumes that X transformed itself into Y and Z. LOL.
So if evolution is not demonstrable at the practical leve then how come we demonstrated it at the practical level and how come you have not refuted it yet?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#169 Aug 4, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
nor have fossils of missing links/transitional forms between species been discovered nor do we observe transitions via the various stages (genotypic and phenotypic) from one species to another taking place anywhere in nature. LOL.
Why are you lying when we've already presented information to the contrary which you have not been able to address yet?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#170 Aug 4, 2014
faith wrote:
If monkeys evolved into humans, uhhh how come there are still monkeys? How come the evolution stops with humans? I mean, shouldn't we still be evolving into some other spectacular creature as should all other creatures? It's is much easier for me to believe we were created than it is to believe my ancestors were swinging from trees.
Well gee, why ARE there still monkeys? Shall we ask the kittens?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#171 Aug 4, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Do you not understand what the word speciation means?
According to Joel it apparently means creating life from scratch or bringing dead flies back to life.

Or something.

:-/

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#173 Aug 4, 2014
faith wrote:
If monkeys evolved into humans, uhhh how come there are still monkeys? How come the evolution stops with humans? I mean, shouldn't we still be evolving into some other spectacular creature as should all other creatures? It's is much easier for me to believe we were created than it is to believe my ancestors were swinging from trees.
Gee, never heard that one before.{eyeroll}

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#174 Aug 4, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Let's tinker with the genes of a dog and devolve it into a wolf and let us also tinker with the genes of a wolf and evolve it into a dog. None of this can be done nor is such a thing seen anywhere in nature. LOL.
Uhhh... Bub? Dogs did evolve from wolves. Didn't you get the memo?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#175 Aug 4, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Dogs are NOT descended from modern wolves but split from a common ancestor 34,000 years ago, suggest certain scientific studies.
What studies?
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
BTW, the so-called common ancestor of dogs and wolves, like all other common ancestors of other species, disappeared without a trace leaving behind not a single transitional form.
Wolves LONG predated the emergence of the domesticated dog. They did not come from a common ancestor.

LMFAO as well.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#176 Aug 4, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Gee, never heard that one before.{eyeroll}
If Jesus came from god, why is there still a god?
(same crap).

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#177 Aug 4, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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If Jesus came from god, why is there still a god?
(same crap).
Excellent. I'm keeping that one.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#178 Aug 4, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Excellent. I'm keeping that one.
Certainly no copy rights on it!
Even the creationists are free to use it.

“No Allah: know peace”

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A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#180 Aug 6, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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Yes, creationism is declining in the USA.
GOOD for America.
The sooner this bronze age caboodle ends, the better.
Really? Not just wishful thinking? Do you have numbers to back it up.

Thank God if it is true!
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#181 Aug 6, 2014
Liam R wrote:
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Really? Not just wishful thinking? Do you have numbers to back it up.
Thank God if it is true!
http://www.ecalpemos.org/2010/12/support-for-...
wondering

Morris, OK

#182 Aug 6, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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What studies?
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Wolves LONG predated the emergence of the domesticated dog. They did not come from a common ancestor.
LMFAO as well.
before you lufao. this is an interesting read and likely where he got his information.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
wondering

Morris, OK

#183 Aug 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Since 34,000 years is only a eyeblink in time they are descended from "modern wolves". I seriously doubt if there is any significant difference between the common ancestors and today's wolves.
Animals cannot "devolve". Evolution is a one way street, there is no going back.
here is the link of his source and it says;
Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago, according to new research.
U.S. scientists said that part of the genetic overlap observed between some modern dogs and wolves is the result of interbreeding after dog domestication and not a direct line of descent from one group of wolves.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

it is amazing what a little research done by a person can find. you should try it sometime.

“No Allah: know peace”

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A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#184 Aug 6, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
Very glad to see that. Thanks!

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#185 Aug 7, 2014
wondering wrote:
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before you lufao. this is an interesting read and likely where he got his information.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
Interesting article, thanks, but...

"Researchers from the University of Chicago said that dogs are more closely related to each other than to wolves..."

Gee, Isn't that a shocker.

...regardless of geographic origin as they do not descend from a single line of wolves.

Yet wolves existed LONG before the domesticate dog.

‘In this analysis we didn't see clear evidence in favour of a multi-regional model, or a single origin from one of the living wolves that we sampled."

Who suggested otherwise?

"One possibility is there may have been other wolf lineages that these dogs diverged from that then went extinct,' Dr Novembre said"

But they were still WOLVES!

Nothing to see here.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#186 Aug 7, 2014
wondering wrote:
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here is the link of his source and it says;
Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago, according to new research.
U.S. scientists said that part of the genetic overlap observed between some modern dogs and wolves is the result of interbreeding after dog domestication and not a direct line of descent from one group of wolves.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
it is amazing what a little research done by a person can find. you should try it sometime.
Indeed.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3...

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