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#1522
Dec 4, 2012
 
How would evolution explain mimicry? Did the plants and animals develop mimicry by chance, by their intelligent choice, or by design?

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#1523
Dec 4, 2012
 
Bat Foy wrote:
How would evolution explain mimicry? Did the plants and animals develop mimicry by chance, by their intelligent choice, or by design?
By chance.

Bat Foy, you are trying to use arguments from ignorance to debunk evolution. It can't be done with that technique. It is a logic fallacy that leads nowhere.

“I started out with nothing”

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#1524
Dec 5, 2012
 
Russell wrote:
Ah, MikeF and Christine....
Where have you two been?
Away on some secret forum together...making each other hopelessly miserable?
Thought you could unobtrusively return here...?
Don't think I don't notice your comings and goings....
...Despite you two providing nothing more than background static that is easily ignored
Thanks a lot for dumping SubDud in his hour of need
Some friends you turned out to be....USELESS!
Nope I’ve been here all along, you have simply been filtering out the good stuff, very typical of the creatard mentality. In fact on several occasions I have directly addressed you and offered you factual links to current scientific knowledge that shows you to be a fool but there you go, you actually admit it by saying “easily ignored”.

Have you ever heard of a word Education?

Let me spell it out E - D - U - C - A - T - I - O - N

It is a wondrous thing and it helps you learn all sorts of stuff and stops people like Russell looking so foolish when they show they are ignorant, clueless creatards

“I started out with nothing”

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#1525
Dec 5, 2012
 
Bat Foy wrote:
How would evolution explain mimicry? Did the plants and animals develop mimicry by chance, by their intelligent choice, or by design?
Why limit the conclusions – Ah yes I know, because you don’t understudied anything else

You seem to have forgotten (or ignored) environmental necessity and genetic imperative

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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#1526
Dec 5, 2012
 
Russell wrote:
Ah, MikeF and Christine....
Where have you two been?
Away on some secret forum together...making each other hopelessly miserable?
Thought you could unobtrusively return here...?
Don't think I don't notice your comings and goings....
...Despite you two providing nothing more than background static that is easily ignored
Thanks a lot for dumping SubDud in his hour of need
Some friends you turned out to be....USELESS!
I know this may come as a shock to your dumb, arrogant ass but you're not a priority.
The Dude

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#1527
Dec 5, 2012
 
Bat Foy wrote:
How would evolution explain mimicry? Did the plants and animals develop mimicry by chance, by their intelligent choice, or by design?
Dunno anything about design. How does that work?

(crickets)
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#1528
Dec 5, 2012
 
Russell wrote:
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Making such a declaration would be a BOLD FACED lie...
I have asked and asked....
Where is the evidence for evolution...
I have received NONE
Actually you have. And I'm just talking about page 1. So far you haven't addressed it. Not once.

Now I've not been around a little while so if you could just point to the page I missed where you DID finally address it that would be dandy.

Otherwise your own declaration would be (yet another) bold faced lie.

Ya know, like usual.
Russell wrote:
If my list of your mistakes is so erroneous...
Why not post it for Urban Cowboy to evaluate as well?
Like we haven't?(shrug)

It's been two years and I'm still waiting for him to address it.

Which reminds me, since the 1st marks the passage of another month I should post my 2 year old questions to Urb again. I pray for a Christmas miracle and he'll finally be able to answer them...
Russell

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Dec 5, 2012
 

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Bat Foy wrote:
How would evolution explain mimicry? Did the plants and animals develop mimicry by chance, by their intelligent choice, or by design?
Don't believe a word they say Bat Foy...

Chance explains nothing
Evolutionary wishful thinking has NO explanation for mimicry...

Saying “chance” is foolishness to the utmost

There are 10 to the power of 80 atoms in the Universe
10 to the power of 12 atomic interactions per second
10 to the power 18 seconds in the Universe as per the erroneous Big Bang
Therefore there are 10 to the power of 110 interactions possible--> MAXIMUM number of interactions possible
There are 20 amino acid residues

At the VERY minimum 256 enzymes required for the simplest life form

Perhaps there may be some leeway in some of the enzyme shapes and amino acid sequences

But there are some for which any change to quaternary structure would render the enzyme useless

But let’s be generous and say at least 10 amino acids are conserved

That means: The chance is 1 in (20 to the power of 10) raised to the power of 256
= 20 to the power of -2560 = 10 to the power -2560.log 20
= 10 to the power -3330

That’s the CHANCE of getting the right sequence for life!

It’s like getting a 3330-digit pin number by chance…

Forget mimicry occurring by chance!

That’s a BOLD FACED lie by evolutionists…That’s you Subduction Zone
Russell

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#1530
Dec 5, 2012
 
ChristineM wrote:
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Have you ever heard of a word Education?
Let me spell it out E - D - U - C - A - T - I - O - N
It is a wondrous thing and it helps you learn all sorts of stuff and stops people like Russell looking so foolish when they show they are ignorant, clueless creatards
Why get an education?
So I can be as silly and vacuous as you?
No way
Russell

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#1531
Dec 5, 2012
 
The Dude wrote:
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Actually you have. And I'm just talking about page 1. So far you haven't addressed it. Not once.
Now I've not been around a little while so if you could just point to the page I missed where you DID finally address it that would be dandy.
Otherwise your own declaration would be (yet another) bold faced lie.
Ya know, like usual.
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Like we haven't?(shrug)
It's been two years and I'm still waiting for him to address it.
Which reminds me, since the 1st marks the passage of another month I should post my 2 year old questions to Urb again. I pray for a Christmas miracle and he'll finally be able to answer them...
Ah...

Shrugo-saurus is back!

Immediate reduction in the general IQ level of this forum...
Russell

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Dec 5, 2012
 

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The Dude wrote:
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Actually you have. And I'm just talking about page 1. So far you haven't addressed it. Not once.
Now I've not been around a little while so if you could just point to the page I missed where you DID finally address it that would be dandy.
Otherwise your own declaration would be (yet another) bold faced lie.
Ya know, like usual.
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Like we haven't?(shrug)
It's been two years and I'm still waiting for him to address it.
Which reminds me, since the 1st marks the passage of another month I should post my 2 year old questions to Urb again. I pray for a Christmas miracle and he'll finally be able to answer them...
Message from ...shrug...evo-god...shrug shrug..
He...shrug...says...shrug...sh rug...

He was only trying to turn the other cheek....

Silly fool....shrug....shrug....shru g...

I have told him that is NOT what the Scriptures meant

Shrug...shrug....shrug...shrug ....

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#1533
Dec 5, 2012
 
Russell wrote:
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Don't believe a word they say Bat Foy...
Chance explains nothing
Evolutionary wishful thinking has NO explanation for mimicry...
Saying “chance” is foolishness to the utmost
There are 10 to the power of 80 atoms in the Universe
10 to the power of 12 atomic interactions per second
10 to the power 18 seconds in the Universe as per the erroneous Big Bang
Therefore there are 10 to the power of 110 interactions possible--> MAXIMUM number of interactions possible
There are 20 amino acid residues
At the VERY minimum 256 enzymes required for the simplest life form
Perhaps there may be some leeway in some of the enzyme shapes and amino acid sequences
But there are some for which any change to quaternary structure would render the enzyme useless
But let’s be generous and say at least 10 amino acids are conserved
That means: The chance is 1 in (20 to the power of 10) raised to the power of 256
= 20 to the power of -2560 = 10 to the power -2560.log 20
= 10 to the power -3330
That’s the CHANCE of getting the right sequence for life!
It’s like getting a 3330-digit pin number by chance…
Forget mimicry occurring by chance!
That’s a BOLD FACED lie by evolutionists…That’s you Subduction Zone
This is hwy you need an education. That is either one of the funniest posts ever or saddest. All you have illustrated here is that you know nothing of biology, chemistry, or statistics. Since we do observe those chemicals in nature we know without even checking your horrendously poor math that you got it wrong.
Russell

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#1534
Dec 5, 2012
 
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>This is hwy you need an education. That is either one of the funniest posts ever or saddest. All you have illustrated here is that you know nothing of biology, chemistry, or statistics. Since we do observe those chemicals in nature we know without even checking your horrendously poor math that you got it wrong.
An "education" can be highly over-rated

That wasn't my math but the math of a PhD physical chemist

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#1535
Dec 5, 2012
 
Russell wrote:
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An "education" can be highly over-rated
That wasn't my math but the math of a PhD physical chemist
I seriously doubt it. If a PhD pchem said something that stupid publicly his school would probably rescind his diploma if they could.

Someone who has taken pchem would know that chemical reactions are not random which would throw out his whole "proof" instantly.
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#1536
Dec 5, 2012
 
Subduction Zone wrote:
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I seriously doubt it. If a PhD pchem said something that stupid publicly his school would probably rescind his diploma if they could.
Someone who has taken pchem would know that chemical reactions are not random which would throw out his whole "proof" instantly.
Subduction Zone
Have you not had enough of being WRONG?

How much can a guy take?

I am embarrassed at constantly showing you up
Down right tired of it

I am NOT enjoying whipping your bottom with evo-god's mangled carcass....

Are you never going to admit YOU ARE WRONG?

What's so wrong about being wrong that you are unable to ever accept that you are WRONG?

Have you ever in your lifetime EVER admitted you are wrong?

Even once?

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#1537
Dec 5, 2012
 
Russell wrote:
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Subduction Zone
Have you not had enough of being WRONG?
How much can a guy take?
I am embarrassed at constantly showing you up
Down right tired of it
I am NOT enjoying whipping your bottom with evo-god's mangled carcass....
Are you never going to admit YOU ARE WRONG?
What's so wrong about being wrong that you are unable to ever accept that you are WRONG?
Have you ever in your lifetime EVER admitted you are wrong?
Even once?
Russell, you make my day. Nothing can be funnier than claims like those coming from the king of the idiots.

I am so glad to see that you are still my biatch!
Russell

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Dec 5, 2012
 

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Subduction Zone wrote:
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Russell, you make my day. Nothing can be funnier than claims like those coming from the king of the idiots.
I am so glad to see that you are still my biatch!
See?
I AM learning....

I have gathered that "baitch" is someone that trounces you utterly and completely, SEVERAL TIMES over....and OVER and OVER...and whom you continue to annoy with sheer stupidity by denying it ...constantly...

Subduction Zone's Wife:

Darlin'
Dinner is ready

Subduction Zone:

No
Dinner isn't ready
You said dinner was ready...

But it clearly IS NOT

There're no pickles on the table

How can dinner be ready if there're no pickles on the table?

Subduction Zone's wife,(in a quiet voice):

We're having meatloaf...
You don't need pickles...

Subduction Zone:

But you clearly said 'dinner is ready"

If you go back to what you said earlier...
You said that

You did not say anything about meatloaf
So you're changing what you said...

You can't say that dinner is ready
And then say that dinner is meatloaf

YOU'RE WRONG
YOU IDIOT

GET AN EDUCATION!!!!

Subduction Zone's wife (whilst wielding a rather heavy frying pan):

CLUNK!!!!

Lights out, Subduction Zone.....

You'll never learn....will you?

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#1539
Dec 5, 2012
 
So Russell, you still have nothing I see.

And it is clear that you need to up your dose of meds. What sort of Doctor do the mentally ill go to in Kangaroo Land? If you need someone to tell them how nuts you truly are so that they can raise your dosage I would be more than willing to help.

Now little biatch why don't you spank yourself in the corner for a while. You are getting boring.
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

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#1540
Dec 5, 2012
 
Subduction Zone wrote:
So Russell, you still have nothing I see.
And it is clear that you need to up your dose of meds. What sort of Doctor do the mentally ill go to in Kangaroo Land? If you need someone to tell them how nuts you truly are so that they can raise your dosage I would be more than willing to help.
Now little biatch why don't you spank yourself in the corner for a while. You are getting boring.
Here's the gauntlet...

If I demonstrate, as best I can from this great distance, that a PhD physical chemist did indeed say what he did....

Will you admit you are wrong?

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#1541
Dec 5, 2012
 
Russell wrote:
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Here's the gauntlet...
If I demonstrate, as best I can from this great distance, that a PhD physical chemist did indeed say what he did....
Will you admit you are wrong?
No. Even if a PhD in Pchem made that claim it would not make it right. If a PhD in physics said that cows could fly if they only ran a little bit faster would you believe him? Trust me, the physicists claim would be more reasonable than your supposed Pchem PhD.

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