Creation/Evolution Debate

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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#1383 Nov 30, 2012
Russell wrote:
Dr Humphreys also predicted the field strengths of Uranus and Neptune. His predictions were 100, 000 times that of the evolutionary dynamo predictions.
Evolution make no such predictions. You're just making shit up. Again.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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#1384 Nov 30, 2012
Russell wrote:
Humphreys model also predicts rapid reversals of the magnetic field.
This is in defiance of the evolutionary models predictions of reversals taking thousands of years 'proving' the earth is millions of years old.
Evolution makes no such predictions. You're totally clueless.

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#1385 Nov 30, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
I don't understand why God can't just rid the world of satan and let people live.
Why indeed. Only three possibilities. God is not all powerful, god and Satan are partners in crime or the whole thing is made up.

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#1386 Nov 30, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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So because some bad people said Jesus said kill you don't bother to read the bible for yourself? My 1st amendment rights get ignored so you can shove your junk theories down the throat of my children. Your atheist anti everything ideas take Christ out of Christmas for me even though I don't believe the way you do? What makes you better why should your unprovable ideas take the place of mine? You think you're better because you have no hope no faith. So your people stomp on the rights of Christians and spew your stupidity as fact expect us to eat it and complain because of some type of injustice you never lived through. Grow up!
So when and where was you 1st Amendment rights ignored?

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#1387 Nov 30, 2012
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>Why indeed. Only three possibilities. God is not all powerful, god and Satan are partners in crime or the whole thing is made up.
Or God allows satan to try us so we choose one side or the other. Free will

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#1388 Nov 30, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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Evolution make no such predictions. You're just making shit up. Again.
Excuse him, It’s the Russell way

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#1389 Nov 30, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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Evolution makes no such predictions. You're totally clueless.
Excuse him, It’s the Russell way

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#1390 Nov 30, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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Why indeed. Only three possibilities. God is not all powerful, god and Satan are partners in crime or the whole thing is made up.
I know which one I have faith in

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#1391 Nov 30, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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Or God allows satan to try us so we choose one side or the other. Free will
Partners in crime it is then. Thanks.

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#1392 Nov 30, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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So because some bad people said Jesus said kill you don't bother to read the bible for yourself? My 1st amendment rights get ignored so you can shove your junk theories down the throat of my children. Your atheist anti everything ideas take Christ out of Christmas for me even though I don't believe the way you do? What makes you better why should your unprovable ideas take the place of mine? You think you're better because you have no hope no faith. So your people stomp on the rights of Christians and spew your stupidity as fact expect us to eat it and complain because of some type of injustice you never lived through. Grow up!
Is that the 1st change to your unalienable rights you are talking about?

Actually what you are claiming is that you are entitled to free speech but anyone who thinks differently from you is not entitled to free speech. That form of fascism is long gone in most of the world.

Christmas was not a christian celebration, it was just one of several pre-existing celebrations that christians hijacked in order to bring more people into their fold.“Join our club and you won’t have to give up your winter festival”. Christmas stems from a combination of Pagan and Celtic mid winter festivals. In my house we celebrate Saturnalia, I know other that celebrate Yule and others that celebrate winter solstice.

In the same way Christianity hijacked Easter which was the north European celebration of the goddess Eostre.

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#1393 Nov 30, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Is that the 1st change to your unalienable rights you are talking about?

Actually what you are claiming is that you are entitled to free speech but anyone who thinks differently from you is not entitled to free speech. That form of fascism is long gone in most of the world.

Christmas was not a christian celebration, it was just one of several pre-existing celebrations that christians hijacked in order to bring more people into their fold.“Join our club and you won’t have to give up your winter festival”. Christmas stems from a combination of Pagan and Celtic mid winter festivals. In my house we celebrate Saturnalia, I know other that celebrate Yule and others that celebrate winter solstice.

In the same way Christianity hijacked Easter which was the north European celebration of the goddess Eostre.
So now you have gone from science and faith could coexist now it can't? How progressive you become when your statements are questioned. Which by the way makes you guilty of the same thing you say Christians do/did.

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#1394 Nov 30, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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So now you have gone from science and faith could coexist now it can't? How progressive you become when your statements are questioned. Which by the way makes you guilty of the same thing you say Christians do/did.
You haven't answered. When and where was your 1st Amendment rights ignored?

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#1395 Nov 30, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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So now you have gone from science and faith could coexist now it can't? How progressive you become when your statements are questioned. Which by the way makes you guilty of the same thing you say Christians do/did.
Say what? What are you on?

Where do I say science and faith can or cannot coexists? The two exist and the two are incompatible as I have shown you with the definitions of FACT and faith, which for some reason you seem to have ignored.

What statements are questioned? It was your statement that was totally blown out of the water with FACTS

Up to now I have been quite accommodating towards you seeing as you are the new guy but if you want top start making sh|t up about what I say and what I don’t say, bring it on. It has been tried several times by godbots over the last few years, I am still here on topix, in the main the god bots are not.

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#1396 Nov 30, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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Evolution makes no such predictions. You're totally clueless.
Yes, Biatch #2 is well named for his dropping of deuces all over the place.

Not only is he against evolution. He is opposed to all science. If any part of science shows that the Earth is not 10,000 years old or less he will find some crank at his creation site that disputes it. There are millions of scientists in the world, is it any wonder that there are a few thousand who still believe their childhood bedtime stories?

Worse yet he is a total hypocrite. If you are opposed to modern science then you should not use it in your daily life. That means no computers, no TV's, no modern agriculture products, and of course the biggest no product at all where oil is involved in any way. Of course if he did not play the role of a hypocrite he could not be here for our entertainment.

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#1397 Nov 30, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, Biatch #2 is well named for his dropping of deuces all over the place.
Not only is he against evolution. He is opposed to all science. If any part of science shows that the Earth is not 10,000 years old or less he will find some crank at his creation site that disputes it. There are millions of scientists in the world, is it any wonder that there are a few thousand who still believe their childhood bedtime stories?
Worse yet he is a total hypocrite. If you are opposed to modern science then you should not use it in your daily life. That means no computers, no TV's, no modern agriculture products, and of course the biggest no product at all where oil is involved in any way. Of course if he did not play the role of a hypocrite he could not be here for our entertainment.
True.

Like Urban Cowpie - who claims to love science - then goes about disputing every bit of it.

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#1398 Nov 30, 2012
MikeF wrote:
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True.
Like Urban Cowpie - who claims to love science - then goes about disputing every bit of it.
Who just happens to be Biatch #1. He was getting a bit difficult last night so I challenged him to a debate. He promptly made countless excuses and ran away.

These cretinists continually claim that "evolution" is wrong when they mean "science" is wrong. It makes it easier for them to denigrate one small part of science. But it shows the strength of evolution that for them to attack it they have to attack ALL of science.

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#1399 Nov 30, 2012
Hey Bat Foy!!

Where is your mathematical proof that prayer works?

Did you look at some of the actual studies involved that showed that not to be the case? The most rigorous, which means the most correct studies, show that prayer has no effect on sickness. I already posted a link that said so, if you like I can find more. There are some poorly run studies that indicate their might be a very slight effect. But you can get all sorts of results with poorly run studies.

That is why the gold standard for this type of research is the Double Blind Study. The people who are sick do not know what medications they are receiving, in this case prayer. There may be people praying for them there may not be people praying for them. And the observers do not know which ill people had people praying for them. If either the patients knew they were being prayed for or the observers knew which patients were being prayed for that can affect how you feel. Knowing someone cares for you is a nice feeling. It can make you "feel better" even if you are not getting any better.

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#1400 Nov 30, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Who just happens to be Biatch #1. He was getting a bit difficult last night so I challenged him to a debate. He promptly made countless excuses and ran away.
He does that all the time. Or says something doesn't matter anymore when he's on the losing end. Which is quite often.
Subduction Zone wrote:
These cretinists continually claim that "evolution" is wrong when they mean "science" is wrong. It makes it easier for them to denigrate one small part of science. But it shows the strength of evolution that for them to attack it they have to attack ALL of science.
And do.

Meanwhile, Urb is whining about Nature again on the other thread.

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Evolution is true.....

#1401 Nov 30, 2012
Bat Foy wrote:
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So because some bad people said Jesus said kill you don't bother to read the bible for yourself? My 1st amendment rights get ignored so you can shove your junk theories down the throat of my children. Your atheist anti everything ideas take Christ out of Christmas for me even though I don't believe the way you do? What makes you better why should your unprovable ideas take the place of mine? You think you're better because you have no hope no faith. So your people stomp on the rights of Christians and spew your stupidity as fact expect us to eat it and complain because of some type of injustice you never lived through. Grow up!
You say:
"What makes you better why should your unprovable ideas take the place of mine?

The fact is his ideas ARE provable and yours are NOT.

You say:
"So your people stomp on the rights of Christians and spew your stupidity as fact expect us to eat it and complain because of some type of injustice you never lived through. Grow up!

You are wrong here too dude...It is Christians that have been spewing their evil, evil crap on mankind for 2000 years...they have killed and maimed their own and done pure evil things to promote the faith. NEVER trust a religious person.

I don't know what the hell you mean that we stomp on the rights of Christians, Christians control the whole damn USA and half of the rest of the world. Just because a few atheists speak up for their rights occasionally you would think we are committing genocide against your whole world and that's bullsh!t

Are you getting like the Muslim sh!t heads who think nobody can say ANYTHING bad about Islam??

Get real and try to understand a changing world where your kind do not control everything.
Russell

Canberra, Australia

#1402 Nov 30, 2012
The Dude wrote:
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Maybe God is always right. But the Bible is written by men. And as such it is wrong.
Who built St Paul’s Cathedral?

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