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“GOD RULES!!!!!”

Since: Dec 07

San Diego, CA

#1 Mar 24, 2008
Proof that God does exist!!!

(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#2 Mar 24, 2008
Ezra, does Mummy know you've highjacked the computer again?:)

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Since: Sep 07

United States

#3 Mar 24, 2008
Ezra12 wrote:
Proof that God does exist!!!
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
This post is evidence that reason doesn't exist, at least not in your case.

You are starting from a false premise. Reason therefore God. This is not self evident AND you have failed to offer any reason to believe that this is true.

I could just as easily say:
1) If raisins exist, therefore God doesn't exist.
2) Raisins exist.
3) Therefore God doesn't exist.

“GOD RULES!!!!!”

Since: Dec 07

San Diego, CA

#4 Mar 24, 2008
Gillette wrote:
Ezra, does Mummy know you've highjacked the computer again?:)
I have my own computer.. Plus look at what I said!!! Even a little kid can be smart!! Take a kid from Japan for instance. There are kids who pass school when they were 7 or something!!

“GOD RULES!!!!!”

Since: Dec 07

San Diego, CA

#5 Mar 24, 2008
GO BACK TO TOPIC NOW!!!
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#6 Mar 24, 2008
Ezra12 wrote:
Proof that God does exist!!!
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
Step one assumes facts not in evidence.

Fail.

“GOD RULES!!!!!”

Since: Dec 07

San Diego, CA

#7 Mar 24, 2008
Bud wrote:
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Step one assumes facts not in evidence.
Fail.
Jajajaj

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Level 2

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#8 Mar 24, 2008
Ezra12 wrote:
Proof that God does exist!!!
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
How do you know?

If I can show that a possible condition where reason exists NOT because of god, then your statement is false.

This I can easily do:

Suppose that reason was created by some other alien being? One who is NOT god?

Or, perhaps by a supercomputer?

What if we are just a simulation running on a massively complex supercomputer?

I have given 3 possible situations where your statement #1 is false.
Ezra12 wrote:
(2) Reason exists.
Are you certain?

How do you KNOW reason exists?

What is the logical steps to PROVE this statement is TRUE?

Do you have ANY idea what they are?

No?

Then your statement #2 may or may not be true.
Ezra12 wrote:
(3) Therefore, God exists.
False conclusion.

#1 is false
#2 may be false, may be true.

Therefore #3 is false, as it is conditional on both #1 and #2 being completely true.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#9 Mar 25, 2008
Ezra12 wrote:
Proof that God does exist!!!
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
Considering that most definitions of a god ignore reason to explain their existence I'd say your claim is completely false.
But, since you're trolling, I'll just call you a moron.

“GOD RULES!!!!!”

Since: Dec 07

San Diego, CA

#10 Mar 25, 2008
llDayo wrote:
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Considering that most definitions of a god ignore reason to explain their existence I'd say your claim is completely false.
But, since you're trolling, I'll just call you a moron.
Ya so? It proves that God exists...

“Creation Science!”

Since: Mar 08

Grand Island, NY

#11 Mar 25, 2008
"If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents - the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else's. But if their thoughts - i.e., of Materialism and Astronomy - are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It's like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset."
-C.S. Lewis

“God Is Love”

Since: Mar 08

West Chester, PA

#12 Mar 25, 2008
Yes but is "stands to reason" that God exists.

God bless you

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Level 2

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#13 Mar 25, 2008
Ezra12 wrote:
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Ya so? It proves that God exists...
No.

I easily proved your 3 statements to be FALSE.

Read my post above.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Level 2

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#14 Mar 25, 2008
CreationScience wrote:
"If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents - the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else's. But if their thoughts - i.e., of Materialism and Astronomy - are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It's like expecting that the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset."
-C.S. Lewis
C.S. Lewis was not really a Christian, or didn't you know that?

He thought the Bible was subject to interpretation, and full of allegorical stories....

Funny that you, an obvious literalist, would quote an infamous Christian Apologizer to "support" your WAG.

“God Is Love”

Since: Mar 08

West Chester, PA

#15 Mar 25, 2008
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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No.
I easily proved your 3 statements to be FALSE.
Read my post above.
Help me out here - what exactly did you "prove"?

God bless you

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Level 2

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#16 Mar 25, 2008
ImNoMonkey wrote:
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Help me out here - what exactly did you "prove"?
God bless you
He posted 3 statements.

His 3rd statement was a "conclusion" based on the first 2.

He failed utterly, to show that statement #1 was, in fact true-- it wasn't.

I demonstrated a possible condition where it was NOT true-- therefore his assumption that it was true for ALL cases was false.

He failed to show that statement #2 was true for all cases. He didn't even show it was true for SOME cases-- he expected everyone to just take it "on faith"-- or at his [untrustworthy] word.

In order for his statement #3 to be true--#1 and #2 HAD to be true for ALL CASES-- which they were not.#3 was dependent on #1 AND #2 being COMPLETELY TRUE.

Therefore his statement #3 was false.

It is basic logic.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Level 2

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#17 Mar 25, 2008
ImNoMonkey wrote:
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God bless you
And DOD bless YOU.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#18 Mar 26, 2008
Ezra12 wrote:
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Ya so? It proves that God exists...
So, you being a moron proves that God exists? Man, he surely must be disappointed in some of his followers.
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#19 Mar 26, 2008
llDayo wrote:
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So, you being a moron proves that God exists? Man, he surely must be disappointed in some of his followers.
I think He might deliberately make some of us stupid for entertainment purposes.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#20 Mar 26, 2008
Bud wrote:
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I think He might deliberately make some of us stupid for entertainment purposes.
Oh, we know he's trolling. But he's not even good at that!

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