Science has been pursuing God for years.

Science has been pursuing God for years.

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#1 Nov 15, 2013
Science has been pursuing God for years and still can't test Him, see Him or explain Him. God is everywhere. God is expanding universe. God is dark matter that exists through out the entire universe. God is the universe.

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#2 Nov 15, 2013
spirit warrior wrote:
Science has been pursuing God for years and still can't test Him, see Him or explain Him. God is everywhere. God is expanding universe. God is dark matter that exists through out the entire universe. God is the universe.
That's nice.

But until you have actual evidence of your claims (above), those are just pretty stories.

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#3 Nov 15, 2013
WHO IS adheres to no place or time.

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#4 Nov 15, 2013
Let alone to male genetalia
Barry

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#5 Nov 16, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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That's nice.
But until you have actual evidence of your claims (above), those are just pretty stories.
Dr. Robert Jastrow, director of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Goddard Center for Space Studies, wrote in a New York Times Magazine article (June 25, 1978; page 29), titled "Have Astronomers Found God",

"This is an exceedingly strange development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven and earth.... For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

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#6 Nov 16, 2013
Barry wrote:
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Dr. Robert Jastrow, director of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Goddard Center for Space Studies, wrote in a New York Times Magazine article (June 25, 1978; page 29), titled "Have Astronomers Found God",
"This is an exceedingly strange development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven and earth.... For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
Where is your link? Quotes must include links since creatards tend to lie whenever they think that they can get away with it.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#7 Nov 16, 2013
Barry wrote:
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Dr. Robert Jastrow, director of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Goddard Center for Space Studies, wrote in a New York Times Magazine article (June 25, 1978; page 29), titled "Have Astronomers Found God",
"This is an exceedingly strange development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven and earth.... For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
Jastrow is religious and is expressing a religious opinion here, not speaking as a scientist.

Do you REALLY think astronomers have actually, literally "found God"?

A link would be appreciated, if you think so. LOL!

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#8 Nov 17, 2013
It's a PDF, i have trouble getting them posted (any legible version) at times.

http://nleresources.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

https://www.google.nl/search... 's+Goddard+Center+for+Space+St udies%2C+wrote+in+a+New+York+T imes+Magazine+article+(June+25 %2C+1978%3B+page+29)%2C+titled +%22Have+Astronomers+Found+God %22%2C
Gets one straight to the publication.

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#10 Nov 17, 2013
pg 41:
The scientist sees the theologian as an extension of the cliff face which
he must climb. He will keep on climbing until he is sitting, as he sees it, on top of the
theologian as well. Of course he is gracious to his cliff, and he smiles kindly down on his
theologian as well. All are welcome in the ultimate scheme of things.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#11 Nov 18, 2013
spirit warrior wrote:
Science has been pursuing God for years and still can't test Him, see Him or explain Him. God is everywhere. God is expanding universe. God is dark matter that exists through out the entire universe. God is the universe.
Gee, seems like the metaphors have really got it in for the kittens today, haven't they?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#12 Nov 18, 2013
Barry wrote:
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Dr. Robert Jastrow, director of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Goddard Center for Space Studies, wrote in a New York Times Magazine article (June 25, 1978; page 29), titled "Have Astronomers Found God",
"This is an exceedingly strange development, unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the word of the Bible: In the beginning God created heaven and earth.... For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
Uh, just to be specific - Pastafarians.

Obvious really.
Barry

Israel

#13 Nov 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Where is your link? Quotes must include links since creatards tend to lie whenever they think that they can get away with it.
I don't have a link. These books were written before the age of links. Secondly, links don't prove anything because 99.99% of what is found on the internet is false. Therefore, bringing a link that provides the quote that I provided is no closer to the truth. Look up the book.
What is interesting is that you are bothered by the paucity of the link but either you cannot face up to the conclusion of the respected professor or you cannot be bothered. In the latter case, time spent providing information for my argument might be better spent elsewhere.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#14 Nov 18, 2013
Barry wrote:
I don't have a link. These books were written before the age of links.
Yeah, but that doesn't stop people putting on later does it? That's why I found three:

https://www.google.co.uk/search...

One of which being this thread we're on now.

And somehow something tells me that you don't happen to own a copy of the New York Times Magazine from 25 June 1978.
Barry wrote:
Secondly, links don't prove anything because 99.99% of what is found on the internet is false. Therefore, bringing a link that provides the quote that I provided is no closer to the truth.
Then what is your purpose for posting? Obviously not to convince anyone of "the truth" (whatever that is) you aren't interested in convincing anyone, nor in backing up your claims. Nay, it appears your only goal is to promote the fallacy that all opinions are equally valid.
Barry wrote:
Look up the book.
What book? Your own copy-pasted quote even stated it wasn't FROM a book.
Barry wrote:
What is interesting is that you are bothered by the paucity of the link
Not at all. Just pointing out that creationists, while I have no doubt the quote is accurate (at least in this case), are notorious for using improper references.
Barry wrote:
but either you cannot face up to the conclusion of the respected professor or you cannot be bothered.
Ah, but was his 'conclusion' a scientific one? It would be very easy to provide an opposing opinion from a different respected scientist, however both opinions have no bearing on the nature of reality. All that matters is what one can demonstrate. And that's what science is for - demonstrating that certain phenomena work in certain yet somewhat predictable ways.

This is why you're able to talk to us using your computer right now.
Barry wrote:
In the latter case, time spent providing information for my argument might be better spent elsewhere.
You had an argument? Funny, and here we were thinking all you were interested in was promoting Jewish apologetics.(shrug)

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