Dissent of Man

Aug 16, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Free Republic

If someone had predicted a year ago that Oxford University Press would publish a book with the subtitle Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature is Almost Certainly False, I might have wondered what alternate universe he was inhabiting.

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The article is right, amoral processes driven by survival of the fittest, produces moral behavior?

You can believe that only if you discard reason, logic and a great portion of intelligence
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The article is right, amoral processes driven by survival of the fittest, produces moral behavior?
You can believe that only if you discard reason, logic and a great portion of intelligence
You forget that you fundies are not moral. You are not capable of morality. You are motivated purely by two things and two things only - fear of eternal hell and desire for eternal paradise. You are only "moral" because that's what you think the invisible wizard wants, not because you are genuinely charitable in any way. Not to mention the fact that the invisible wizard you believe in was a complete git in the OT, yet you still call that "moral".

In short Bo, you have an effed up view of what morality is.

Which explains why you're a big fat juicy liar for Jesus.

Oh, and Nagel is still a crank.

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The Dude wrote:
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You forget that you fundies are not moral. You are not capable of morality. You are motivated purely by two things and two things only - fear of eternal hell and desire for eternal paradise. You are only "moral" because that's what you think the invisible wizard wants, not because you are genuinely charitable in any way. Not to mention the fact that the invisible wizard you believe in was a complete git in the OT, yet you still call that "moral".
In short Bo, you have an effed up view of what morality is.
Which explains why you're a big fat juicy liar for Jesus.
Oh, and Nagel is still a crank.
It's easier for you, you never had any intelligence to begin with.

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It's easier for you, you never had any intelligence to begin with.
It seems in all the time I have followed this forum, all you do are these drive by posts. Obviously, no intelligence required in that. It suits you.

Seems like I recall you use to try. Now you are just phoning it in. Must be terrible to be left with only these pathetic tactics.

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<quoted text>It seems in all the time I have followed this forum, all you do are these drive by posts. Obviously, no intelligence required in that. It suits you.
Seems like I recall you use to try. Now you are just phoning it in. Must be terrible to be left with only these pathetic tactics.
I haven't got the time to troll along as you and your fellow defenders of the evolution religion have. Must be sad to belong to the 2 percent cult and guard the gates of your faith daily.

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I haven't got the time to troll along as you and your fellow defenders of the evolution religion have. Must be sad to belong to the 2 percent cult and guard the gates of your faith daily.
Did I hurt your feelings? Good.

I believe that you are mistaken as usual. It is science and is supported by 98% of scientist, perhaps more.

You can't defeat the theory so the next best effort is to try and convince people it is a religion. What will you do after that falls through. How long can you root in our garbage.

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<quoted text>Did I hurt your feelings? Good.
I believe that you are mistaken as usual. It is science and is supported by 98% of scientist, perhaps more.
You can't defeat the theory so the next best effort is to try and convince people it is a religion. What will you do after that falls through. How long can you root in our garbage.
I don't have to defeat it, it's already failed. Only the faith driven guard it now.
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It's easier for you, you never had any intelligence to begin with.
Sez the guy who thinks invisible Jew magic can compete with science, and has never been able to refute me once. Ever.

Cue lame puddle goo joke then run away.

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I don't have to defeat it, it's already failed. Only the faith driven guard it now.
That is hilarious. Are you still doing two shows a night at the comedy club?

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I don't have to defeat it, it's already failed. Only the faith driven guard it now.
Well then, I guess your job here is done!

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I haven't got the time to troll along as you and your fellow defenders of the evolution religion have. Must be sad to belong to the 2 percent cult and guard the gates of your faith daily.
I have a great deal of trouble believing that YOU believe what you write.

Surely you must realize that the entire rest of the world run on science which is proven by evolution. That if evolution were suddenly rendered false, planes would literally fall from the sky, nuclear power plants would explode, no medicine would ever work, no food would exist.

It's a ridiculous notion.

Compare that to what would happen if we found out that the Jews were wrong when they made up their bedtime stories...

Literally nothing would change in our physical world.

Sure, a bunch of Christians would be pretty pissed off. But they wouldn't change their behavior. They'd go right on hating gays and molesting children as if nothing had changed.

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I have a great deal of trouble believing that YOU believe what you write.
Surely you must realize that the entire rest of the world run on science which is proven by evolution. That if evolution were suddenly rendered false, planes would literally fall from the sky, nuclear power plants would explode, no medicine would ever work, no food would exist.
It's a ridiculous notion.
Compare that to what would happen if we found out that the Jews were wrong when they made up their bedtime stories...
Literally nothing would change in our physical world.
Sure, a bunch of Christians would be pretty pissed off. But they wouldn't change their behavior. They'd go right on hating gays and molesting children as if nothing had changed.
and...as usual the guardians of the faith surge from their septic caverns roaring and spewing pedantic bile in defense of their ancient Greek religion. Nuggin, Kong, Dan and the imbecilic Dud, first line of the evolutionary praetorian guard. Nuggin has made a bid for leadership of the guard with his moronic linking of evolution with nuclear power! Ha,Ha,Ha,...planes would fall from the sky!

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Nuggin has made a bid for leadership of the guard with his moronic linking of evolution with nuclear power! Ha,Ha,Ha,...planes would fall from the sky!
Evolution makes predictions about evidence.

That evidence is subsequently confirmed by various other sciences.

For example, evolution makes predictions about the age of fossils. Those predictions are confirmed by radioactive decay rates.

If evolution is false, then the fossils can't be as old as evolution predicts. If that's the case, then our understanding of nuclear decay rates is completely false as well.

It means that the rate of decay is utterly unpredictable. Nuclear power plants would explode like popcorn as technicians tried to guess how much power would be generated from one second to the next.

Evolution also guides geologists in their understanding of various sedimentary layers. It allows them to locate oil fields which provide the fuel which powers planes.

If evolution is false, then oil is impossible to find. Try flying a plane without any fuel. See how long you stay in the air.

You see, the difference between science and religion is that science all has to work together.

If evolution is false, then ALL of science is false.

Whereas with religion, if Genesis is false, it has no bearing whatsoever on Exodus. If Exodus is false, it has no bearing whatsoever on Mark. If Mark is false, it has no bearing on Psalms. Etc.

Since it's all just faerie tales it doesn't matter that any or all of it is fake.

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Evolution makes predictions about evidence.
That evidence is subsequently confirmed by various other sciences.
For example, evolution makes predictions about the age of fossils. Those predictions are confirmed by radioactive decay rates.
If evolution is false, then the fossils can't be as old as evolution predicts. If that's the case, then our understanding of nuclear decay rates is completely false as well.
It means that the rate of decay is utterly unpredictable. Nuclear power plants would explode like popcorn as technicians tried to guess how much power would be generated from one second to the next.
Evolution also guides geologists in their understanding of various sedimentary layers. It allows them to locate oil fields which provide the fuel which powers planes.
If evolution is false, then oil is impossible to find. Try flying a plane without any fuel. See how long you stay in the air.
You see, the difference between science and religion is that science all has to work together.
If evolution is false, then ALL of science is false.
Whereas with religion, if Genesis is false, it has no bearing whatsoever on Exodus. If Exodus is false, it has no bearing whatsoever on Mark. If Mark is false, it has no bearing on Psalms. Etc.
Since it's all just faerie tales it doesn't matter that any or all of it is fake.
You are now the captain of the guardians of the evo faith. That was a really stupid diatribe about your blessed religion

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You are now the captain of the guardians of the evo faith. That was a really stupid diatribe about your blessed religion
Bohart, you're a f*#king idiot.

There's really no point going into any more detail than that.

Go back to making the french fries, the adults have work to do.

You're welcome for all the things we provide you. All we ask from you is to STFU and stay out of the way.

Apparently even that is too much for you.

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and...as usual the guardians of the faith surge from their septic caverns roaring and spewing pedantic bile in defense of their ancient Greek religion. Nuggin, Kong, Dan and the imbecilic Dud, first line of the evolutionary praetorian guard. Nuggin has made a bid for leadership of the guard with his moronic linking of evolution with nuclear power! Ha,Ha,Ha,...planes would fall from the sky!
A post like this is what happens when you get "word of the day" toilet paper and the runs at the same time. The Bohart Bonus.

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You are now the captain of the guardians of the evo faith. That was a really stupid diatribe about your blessed religion
A fundamentalist with no argument and a lot of stupid chatter. I never would have expected to find that on this forum.

ROFLMMFAO!!!

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Bohart, you're a f*#king idiot.
There's really no point going into any more detail than that.
Go back to making the french fries, the adults have work to do.
You're welcome for all the things we provide you. All we ask from you is to STFU and stay out of the way.
Apparently even that is too much for you.
Why so angry? The things you provide? What the hell have you ever provided for me you arrogant asshole, who do you think you are Pasteur? Provide me with an explanation of how goo came to life and turned into worms that evolved into worm eating fish? Until you do you STFU.

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Why so angry? The things you provide? What the hell have you ever provided for me you arrogant asshole, who do you think you are Pasteur? Provide me with an explanation of how goo came to life and turned into worms that evolved into worm eating fish? Until you do you STFU.
You really are going all out to prove that you are a total idiot on every post.

You can't get rid of stupid by spouting idiocy. That only makes your inner stupid grown.

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You really are going all out to prove that you are a total idiot on every post.
You can't get rid of stupid by spouting idiocy. That only makes your inner stupid grown.
You oughta know.

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