Faster321

Fredericksburg, VA

#1336 Mar 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
Good job I never intended to convince you, because just like creationists, reality is irrelevant to you.
Do you deny IQ is hereditary?
Justme

Plainfield, IL

#1337 Mar 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
But social status IS NOT directly correlated to intelligence.
If that WERE the case, Albert Einstein would've been the richest man on earth. Or Stephen Hawking.
Bill Gates is, however. Although he's bright, he's not THE brightest candle on the mantle-- not even the brightest at Microsoft, even.
No, social status is pretty much a function of your birth situation.
Even the "self made" millionaires had the luck to have had $$ opportunities at one or more points in their history.
This is not to discount entirely the efforts of these "self mades" but, the element of luck, involving the accident of one's birth plays a seriously major role, regarding social status.
(I arbitrarily chose income as a measure of social status. Obviously, there are other measures. Money is just easy to measure, is all.)
Actually Bill Gates is the 3rd richest man
jamesk

Surry Hills, Australia

#1338 Jun 20, 2013
Jake wrote:
This will be a controversial topic--but do any of you believe that the fact that what became Asian and white populations are more evolved than ones who stayed in Africa?
Would it not be far fetched for one to surmise that traveling by foot thousands of miles over hundreds of years and being faced with various obstacles and challenges that one had to adapt to would over time cause a trend in increased intelligence?
It cannot be denied that those originating from Europe (and Asian) have been responsible for much of what makes modern life modern. I mean, it's just a fact.
Furthermore, why are white and Asian skulls flatter with more pronounced features and larger brain capacities (less similar to ancient ancestors)?
I'm not arguing that there aren't some highly intelligent people of African descent--there are. But overwhelmingly, these observations I think hold some truth.
Thoughts? Opinions?
so true.
whitetexan

Gatesville, TX

#1339 Jul 6, 2013
Think about this all humans came from the dark skind people of africa but insted of fighting about whos better the truth is that white peole has evolved more., dont bitch at me yet, its a fact so stop fightng it. The real thing you should do is work on your own betterment start with your culture before you preach black power think of how little power you actuly have, besides calling everyone racest. you dont understand how little pactince we have left with the african people before we snap. yes i am white poer but when a latino person says mexcian power i dont shoot them down. having pride in your race does not make you racest. we may be more evolved but that doesent mean you cant catch up with it

“What can I do to get the Topix”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

cops upset?

#1340 Jul 6, 2013
whitetexan wrote:
Think about this all humans came from the dark skind people of africa but insted of fighting about whos better the truth is that white peole has evolved more., dont bitch at me yet, its a fact so stop fightng it. The real thing you should do is work on your own betterment start with your culture before you preach black power think of how little power you actuly have, besides calling everyone racest. you dont understand how little pactince we have left with the african people before we snap. yes i am white poer but when a latino person says mexcian power i dont shoot them down. having pride in your race does not make you racest. we may be more evolved but that doesent mean you cant catch up with it
Thanks for posting this. It reminds me that while I am totally against the idea, I still get this terrible feeling that sometimes we should cull our own herd. You can't act on these irrational thoughts though. Right.

“So it's not you, It's them?”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#1341 Jul 10, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for posting this. It reminds me that while I am totally against the idea, I still get this terrible feeling that sometimes we should cull our own herd. You can't act on these irrational thoughts though. Right.
Take heart! Experience has taught me the herd tends to "cull" itself, through impressively self-destructive methods. Posters like the illiterate simpleton you replied to make me glad I too wasn't the son of marginally double-digit I Q parents, who were overdrawn at the intellectual curiosity bank and wasn't also conceived behind the Tastee-Freeze. LOL

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Level 9

Since: Jan 11

cops upset?

#1342 Jul 10, 2013
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
Take heart! Experience has taught me the herd tends to "cull" itself, through impressively self-destructive methods. Posters like the illiterate simpleton you replied to make me glad I too wasn't the son of marginally double-digit I Q parents, who were overdrawn at the intellectual curiosity bank and wasn't also conceived behind the Tastee-Freeze. LOL
That is Hilarious, but true. Besides who would the Darwin Awards go to.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1343 Jul 11, 2013
whitetexan wrote:
Think about this all humans came from the dark skind people of africa but insted of fighting about whos better the truth is that white peole has evolved more., dont bitch at me yet, its a fact so stop fightng it. The real thing you should do is work on your own betterment start with your culture before you preach black power think of how little power you actuly have, besides calling everyone racest. you dont understand how little pactince we have left with the african people before we snap. yes i am white poer but when a latino person says mexcian power i dont shoot them down. having pride in your race does not make you racest. we may be more evolved but that doesent mean you cant catch up with it
First - It's funny anyone claiming anything is more evolved as "fact" when evolution states there's no such thing.

Second - It's funny when someone claims to be more evolved yet has difficulty with basic spelling.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1344 Jul 11, 2013
Faster321 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you deny IQ is hereditary?
If your parents were smart, yeah.

Level 2

Since: Jul 13

Lisbon, Portugal

#1345 Jul 15, 2013
Jake wrote:
This will be a controversial topic--but do any of you believe that the fact that what became Asian and white populations are more evolved than ones who stayed in Africa?
There is no such thing as "more evolved". There is only more or less adapted to a specific environment.
Jake wrote:
Would it not be far fetched for one to surmise that traveling by foot thousands of miles over hundreds of years and being faced with various obstacles and challenges that one had to adapt to would over time cause a trend in increased intelligence?
Does a lobster travelling from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean become more intelligent?
The basis for human intelligence had already been established before homo sapiens walked out of Africa.
Jake wrote:
It cannot be denied that those originating from Europe (and Asian) have been responsible for much of what makes modern life modern. I mean, it's just a fact.
Probably true. But what you call modern life happened maybe 500 years ago. Before that time the populations from North Africa, Egipt and Central America were probably more advanced than Europeans. Europe's industrial revolution happened, not because europeans are more intelligent, but because they had the resources.
Jake wrote:
Furthermore, why are white and Asian skulls flatter with more pronounced features and larger brain capacities (less similar to ancient ancestors)?
I require a reference which shows that claim to be true, before I can accept it.
Jake wrote:
I'm not arguing that there aren't some highly intelligent people of African descent--there are. But overwhelmingly, these observations I think hold some truth.
So, you are saying that in general whites are more intelligent than blacks, with the occasional exception. Again, I need a reference that shows this to be true, before I can accept it.
Jake wrote:
Thoughts? Opinions?
My opinion is that you are mistaken. Raise a black child in europe and that child will learn how to live in a city. Raise a white child in tribal Africa and that child will learn how to live in that environment. I have no knowledge of any study that idicates a difference in intelligent between human "races".
Niles

London, UK

#1346 Jul 23, 2013
Jake wrote:
This will be a controversial topic--but do any of you believe that the fact that what became Asian and white populations are more evolved than ones who stayed in Africa?
Would it not be far fetched for one to surmise that traveling by foot thousands of miles over hundreds of years and being faced with various obstacles and challenges that one had to adapt to would over time cause a trend in increased intelligence?
It cannot be denied that those originating from Europe (and Asian) have been responsible for much of what makes modern life modern. I mean, it's just a fact.
Furthermore, why are white and Asian skulls flatter with more pronounced features and larger brain capacities (less similar to ancient ancestors)?
I'm not arguing that there aren't some highly intelligent people of African descent--there are. But overwhelmingly, these observations I think hold some truth.
Thoughts? Opinions?
yes look at http://www.aryandawn.org/
John

Saint Charles, MO

#1347 Aug 5, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would one population's movement into different environment cause "advanced evolution" and the population that stays behind remain static?
The group that stayed in Africa would continue to face evolutionary pressure just as much as a group that left and went north.
The pressures are different, true, and clearly lead to some differentiation: lighter skin as a response to lower levels of sunlight. Migration of subcutaneous fat storage from hips and behind, to more general body distribution, in response to colder climates.
One set of physiology is not "superior" to another-- each has advantages AND disadvantages to the individual.
To imply one is somehow "superior" or "more evolved" is stepping out of the realm of science, and firmly into the realm of subjective judgment.
Neither is "more evolved" than the other-- both groups are evolved.
A scientist would not speak of "more evolved" as "more superior" or "better".
To a scientist, "more evolved" simply means there are more changes/mutations in a particular line of organisms, when compared to an ancestorial one.
It's not a measure of quality-- must be a measure of quantity.
If anyone on here thinks for a second that African people if left in Africa would have developed computers and traveled to the moon, etc.... You have been brainwashed by the powers that be. Blacks only chance at survival in a technologically advanced world is mixed breeding and economic support. It's amazing how political correctness and a guilty conscience have changed our perceptions from 100 years ago. Don't forget that there are a lot of "blacks" now that are probably only around 25% African. They have successfully tapped into other gene pools and made them their own becoming a larger group politically with the help of other races and political correctness (the term molloto is no longer used which adds to their numbers). Whites make up about a seventh of the world population. It won't be long before they are extinct. The genes will have been passed on but the history books will be changed much like they are already to reflect a much different reality.

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Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#1348 Aug 9, 2013
A very interesting topic indeed.

It seems that the Caucasians and Asians had a big input in 'modern society'. Recent history's record on the achievements Caucasian and Asian have, which includes -

The Compass (Chinese)

Mechanical clocks - first used in China, more for astronomical/astrological purposes than for telling the time.

The Tunnel (Romans - either invented or further-developed it)

Roman bridges (were among the first large and lasting bridges built)

Paper -(Chinese)

Europe improved on the teachings from the Middle East such as mathematics, astrology, geometry and physics, which helped enable the European cultural expansion on the world.

The gunpowder, firelance and engineering methods used by the Chinese helped enable a civilization that stand against other nations that tried to invade it.

Going to the present-day, in Western countries such as America, Australia and Canada, it seems that Middle-Class and Upper-Class Whites and Asians are intermarrying one another more than, say, Whites intermarrying with Blacks, Mestizo-Latinos etc.

Looks as if sociology is playing a part in this. Middle-Class Whites and Asians tend to live and work well in the same environment.

Level 1

Since: Sep 13

Raleigh, NC

#1349 Sep 30, 2013
It's called evolution by race. Most features you described as pure white, asian, and black hold truth. There are minor variations but generally correct.

Rushton and Jensen's research adds validity to your rather vast assumption. The IQ test from 2005 to 2010 between white and black revealed: whites on average have 15-18 higher score then blacks and whites have 80-85% likely to have higher IQ then blacks.

Rushton also measured the size of average size of brain by race: whites 1347, blacks 1267, Asian 1364

For the correlation between brain size and intelligence, Pennington and Peper's research explains in detail. Their experiment results: brain size/ general intelligence =.41, brain size/ IQ =.24 based on meta analysis.

They've also measured the heritability of brain size using global brain measure. The result show 0.82/0.88 = heritabily to of gray/white matter. The overall genetic correlation was 0.48.

Based on the research, brain size is affected by genetics (race) and brain size reasonably correlate to intelligence.

This hypothesis have yet to be disproved.
Jess

Durban, South Africa

#1350 Oct 5, 2013
The more violent people are the more stupid and primitive a group is
Michael Cooper

Zanesville, OH

#1351 Nov 5, 2013
I'm not about to get mad at the MASSIVE amount of uneducated bullshit people keep talking about.
However if your comment has nothing to do with what he is asking then please let someone with some education speak up.

Alright, so I have been asking myself the same question, and after a lot of reading, watching and observing, I've induced that Africans have evolved, because they are not monkeys obviously. But they evolved more slowly because they stayed in Africa. Humans originate from Africa, for whatever reason some moved north, and some kept going east after that. Then some got trapped on the other side of the ice bridge between what we know as Russia and Canada, moved south until they hit south America. Due to the desserts in the middle east and the vast water expanses, there became 5 'races'. Africans, Europeans, Asians, Indians, South Americans. They all were mostly separated due to their geography and over thousands of years adapted to their very different life-styles. Moving so much doesn't matter, but Indians consisted of a very migrating lifestyle, and evolved as such, to where they are naturally muscular and lean, and then as they get older they didn't have to hunt and they evolved to where they are not physically capable of doing a lot of hunting and farming, more so advising the community. Asians were mostly farmers and fisherman, no real reason for muscle. As you can see they have evolved accordingly. I can go into how each race differs due to their location but I've made my point.
For in terms of Africans have a more forward jawline, this is indeed a fact, I have read mixed data on this, but even for Africans this is a hit or miss gene. The reason is there were huge differences between Europeans and Africans way before we really took notice, there was a lot of rape when Europeans would pillage African villages, the European jawline that's more drawn back is a dominant gene. Meaning when let's say a woman with a European jaw and a man with a forward jaw mate, the child is more likely to have the European jaw. That's a fact. But that child will be mixed, and be integrated with African skin tones until the jawline sticks through for generations, but the skin becomes much more dark once again. And a thousand or two years later, many 'native' Africans have a European jawline. Try to think of it like red hair, it's a recessive gene. I can go on for a while about why there are gingers even though it's a recessive gene because I know someone will think I'm racist or a non-believer. I am white, Jewish, a male, and extremely educated on the topic. So that no one would get confused I used the simplest terms and analogies I can think of, if you're educated and know specific terms and now think I'm an idiot, sorry, just deal with it. lol.

So for my final answer, it's not that any race is more evolved than the other, it's that they have evolved equally to suit their needs the best. Sorry this became so long, but this is a MASSIVELY large, and controversial topic that is not easy to discuss, so I tip my hat to you for having the balls to ask it.
MC
Proud Neggir

Hazleton, PA

#1352 Nov 5, 2013
Our thangs are still bigger! That is all that matters over crackers and ricers.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Lakeland, FL

#1353 Nov 5, 2013
[QUOTE who="Michael However if your comment has nothing to do with what he is asking then please let someone with some education speak up.[/QUOTE]
Proud Neggir wrote:
Our thangs are still bigger! That is all that matters over crackers and ricers.
Well, that's not working out very well, is it?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Lakeland, FL

#1354 Nov 5, 2013
It getting late and I rather finish my beverage rather than quibble but...

No, I don't think you an idiot even though I have some difficulties with some of you statements. If your going to state something is a fact, it would be wise to link to some peer reviewed paper to support your claim. This is a science forum after all.
Michael Cooper wrote:
So for my final answer, it's not that any race is more evolved than the other, it's that they have evolved equally to suit their needs the best. Sorry this became so long, but this is a MASSIVELY large, and controversial topic that is not easy to discuss, so I tip my hat to you for having the balls to ask it.
MC
I do agree that all races (a poor term) are equally evolved but unsure of what you mean by "suit their needs". ToE is based on successful reproduction. That is, avoiding predators and finding enough food to survive until you can pass you genes on. Is that what you meant?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1355 Nov 6, 2013
Michael Cooper wrote:
But they evolved more slowly because they stayed in Africa.
Whoever claimed this is in error.

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