P.T. Barnum creationist sideshow

P.T. Barnum creationist sideshow

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Hexene

AOL

#1 Apr 6, 2006
It is amazing what creationist will do for biblical pseudosceice and I find it bizarre and tacky. Remember the poor kitten borne with one eye and nose-less is back in the news. The owner sold the dead kitten to a creationist bible museum (Lost World Museum) in Phoenix, New York. For what purpose is the museum going to display this animal? Well they just posted why today. Basically they are trying to claim that all mutations are either neutral or negative happenings. Intelligent Design? There mission statement claims: The mission of the Lost World Museum is to present the greatest evidence ever assembled which validates the creation account found in the book of Genesis.

We will explore past archeological finds and perhaps offer an alternative explanation as we present: the Giants of the pre-flood world, the remnants of ancient technology, the existence of Noah’s Ark, evidence for a worldwide flood, anomalous fossils and out of place artifacts.

We will use the creative marketing techniques of P.T. Barnum to arrest the public’s attention while providing the resources to answer that age-old question:
“Is it Apes, Aliens or Adam?”

Also, I find it rather disturbing that the mission statement doesn’t acknowledge the Flying Spaghetti Monster who created mountain, trees, and a midget – do they forget that we are all his creatures! The article and the link to the Lost World Museum follow:
http://www.lostworldmuseum.com/

Museum Will Display Cyclops Kitten's Remains

GRANBY, N.Y.(April 5)- The one-eyed, noseless kitten that inspired an international debate last year over whether it was a hoax is coming to a new museum of oddities in central New York.

The museum founder, who believes in creationism, said the kitten is meant to launch another debate about how science and religion intersect.

The Oregon woman who owned the kitten said she turned down Ripley's Believe it or Not! and sold the remains to John Adolfi of Granby because she liked his religious reasons for wanting them.

"We didn't want Cy becoming a joke or part of a personal collection," Traci Allen said. "But John was so heartfelt, you could tell he was genuine and sincere."

Adolfi would not say how much he paid for the kitten, named Cy, for Cyclops. He said he plans to have it embalmed Wednesday at a local funeral home.

The kitten died in December, a day after being born. Veterinarians in Oregon said it suffered from a rare disorder called holoprosencephaly.

Cy will be displayed in a glass jar in the Lost World Museum, which Adolfi hopes to open in nearby Phoenix this fall.

Other exhibits will include giant plants and eggs, deformed animal remains and archaeological finds, Adolfi said.

04/05/06 17:17 EDT
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Bob the Unbeliever

Tulsa, OK

#2 Apr 6, 2006
Hexene wrote:
<snip>...Other exhibits will include giant plants and eggs, deformed animal remains and archaeological finds, Adolfi said....<snip
Does this mean that we will be able to see the brains of creationists?

You know, those miniature brain-like organs good for nothing more that repeating authority-given religious dogma?

They are easily identified, as the frontal-lobes are almost completely atrophied (from lack of use) and the rest of the tissue is rock-hard ...
Hexene

AOL

#3 Apr 6, 2006
Bob the Unbeliever wrote:
<quoted text>

Does this mean that we will be able to see the brains of creationists?

You know, those miniature brain-like organs good for nothing more that repeating authority-given religious dogma?

They are easily identified, as the frontal-lobes are almost completely atrophied (from lack of use) and the rest of the tissue is rock-hard ...
Bob, I can only ... ROTFLMAO!!!
Baal

United States

#4 Apr 6, 2006
Archbishop Ussher says:

"For as much as our Christian epoch falls many ages after the beginning of the world, and the number of years before that backward is not onely more troublesome, but (unless greater care be taken) more lyable to errour; also it hath pleased our modern chronologers, to adde to that generally received hypothesis (which asserted the Julian years, with their three cycles by a certain mathematical prolepsis, to have run down to the very beginning of the world) an artificial epoch, framed out of three cycles multiplied in themselves; for the Solar Cicle being multiplied by the Lunar, or the number of 28 by 19, produces the great Paschal Cycle of 532 years, and that again multiplied by fifteen, the number of the indiction, there arises the period of 7980 years, which was first (if I mistake not) observed by Robert Lotharing, Bishop of Hereford, in our island of Britain, and 500 years after by Joseph Scaliger fitted for chronological uses, and called by the name of the Julian Period, because it conteined a cycle of so many Julian years. Now if the series of the three minor cicles be from this present year extended backward unto precedent times, the 4713 years before the beginning of our Christian account will be found to be that year into which the first year of the indiction, the first of the Lunar Cicle, and the first of the Solar will fall. Having placed therefore the heads of this period in the kalends of January in that proleptick year, the first of our Christian vulgar account must be reckoned the 4714 of the Julian Period, which, being divided by 15. 19. 28. will present us with the 4 Roman indiction, the 2 Lunar Cycle, and the 10 Solar, which are the principal characters of that year.
We find moreover that the year of our fore-fathers, and the years of the ancient Egyptians and Hebrews were of the same quantity with the Julian, consisting of twelve equal moneths, every of them containing 30 dayes,(for it cannot be proved that the Hebrews did the Lunary Moneths, before the Babylonian Captivity) adjoyning to the end of the twelfth moneth, the addition of five dayes, and every fourth year six. And I have observed by the continued succession of these years, as they are delivered in holy writ, That the end of the great Nebuchadnezars, and the beginning of Evilmerodachs (his sons) reign, fell out in the 3442 year of the World, but by collation of Chaldean History and the Astronomical Cannon, it fell out in the 186 year of Nabonasar, and, as by certain connexion, it must follow in the 562 year before the Christian account, and of the Julian Period, the 4152. and from thence I gathered the Creation of the World did fall out upon the 710 year of the Julian Period, by placing its beginning in Autumn: but for as much as the first day of the World began with the evening of the first day of the week, I have observed that the Sunday, which in the year 710 aforesaid, came nearest the Autumnal Æquinox, by Astronomical Tables (p) notwithstanding the stay of the Sun in the dayes of Joshua, and the going back of it in the dayes of Ezekiah) happened upon the 23 day of the Julian October; from thence concluded that from the evening preceding, that first day of the Julian year, both the first day of the Creation and the first motion of time are to be deduced."

Our world is about 6010 years old.

(God created the Heavens and Earth, & plants & creatures & man in 6 days. He snuck around at night and planted dinosaur bones underground, and he salted the ground with post-dated carbon.

He is just testing us. Are you ready for the quiz?
Bob the Unbeliever

Tulsa, OK

#5 Apr 6, 2006
Baal wrote:
<snip>...
(God created the Heavens and Earth, & plants & creatures & man in 6 days. He snuck around at night and planted dinosaur bones underground, and he salted the ground with post-dated carbon.

He is just testing us. Are you ready for the quiz?
I almost missed your actual comments, because of all the cut-and-paste reteroric/nonsense by the now-discredited Usher. Even most of the modern creationists do not give his ideas much credit.

...

What quiz? If it requires my death first, then, why yes: I am QUITE ready. As ready as ANYONE may be, given the serious lack of emperical evidence as to WHAT THE TEST IS ABOUT ...!

In fact, I will go as far as saying that UNBORN FETUSES are ready to pass that hypothetical test ...!

Seeing as how they know AS MUCH as ANYONE ELSE can know ...:P
Darwins Stepchild

AOL

#6 Apr 6, 2006
Pastafarianism has finally answered the age old question..."How did life arise?"

The FSM, with his Noodley Appendage placed a bowl of pasta on the Earth. A week later...
Hexene

AOL

#7 Apr 7, 2006
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
Pastafarianism has finally answered the age old question..."How did life arise?"

The FSM, with his Noodley Appendage placed a bowl of pasta on the Earth. A week later...
To emphasize this statement the music score of 2001: A Space Odyssey comes into mind!

I heard that on the last Apollo moon mission they found buried on the moon an artifact called Noodleliths! This proves that the Tiktaalik fossils which the scientist found also a bowl of Noodleliths among their fossilized bones and thus “Ushering” them a "evolutionary kick in the pants" we needed to survive at the Dawn of Time of the movement to land. All Hail the great Noodlelith placed by the divine FSM. Will we go to Jupiter now and may we find an alien intelligence – no we will find the Divine Flying Spaghetti Monster HAL-ing no hovering and waiting for mankind to approach. Europa comes into mind – NOODELITHS!!

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

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#8 Dec 15, 2013
Rama

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#9 Dec 15, 2013
When mentioning P. T. Barnum and Creationism/Intelligent design, the phrase "There's a sucker born every minute" comes to mind.

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