Dr. Kenneth Miller on Science and Re...

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#43 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Do any of you empty-headed tiny weenies have any thoughts about Dr. Kenneth Miller on science and religion?
Talking to yourself again? There is only one empty headed tiny weenie posting here and he goes by the name of "Shubie".

Miller's religious views are his own. He may or may not agree with the Pope. So what. His views are far less hilarious than yours.
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#44 Jan 13, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Miller's religious views are his own. He may or may not agree with the Pope.
Dr. Kenneth Miller claims to be Catholic. Historically that means that he respects Catholic superstitions. Consequently, Dr. Kenneth Miller believes that everyone should submit to the Roman Pontiff.
http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...
Subduction Zone wrote:
So what. His views are far less hilarious than yours.
I'm not surprised by your reverence to the holy office of pedophile protectors.
The Dude

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#45 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> Dr. Kenneth Miller claims to be Catholic. Historically that means that he respects Catholic superstitions. Consequently, Dr. Kenneth Miller believes that everyone should submit to the Roman Pontiff.
His religious beliefs are his own, and you don't know them any more than anyone else does.
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not surprised by your reverence to the holy office of pedophile protectors.
Ooh,'nother low blow by the Shoobmeister! Can you say big fat straw-man?
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#46 Jan 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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His religious beliefs are his own, and you don't know them any more than anyone else does.
Historically speaking, Roman Catholicism epitomizes unparalleled presumption and the minimal principle.

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#47 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> Dr. Kenneth Miller claims to be Catholic. Historically that means that he respects Catholic superstitions. Consequently, Dr. Kenneth Miller believes that everyone should submit to the Roman Pontiff.

http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday...
Really, and your evidence that he believes the nonsense you linked it? Seriously, I doubt if very many Catholics at all believe it. Just because you are a member of a religion does not man that you believe all of its bullshit.
<quoted text>I'm not surprised by your reverence to the holy office of pedophile protectors.
No, I have no reverence for the papal office. Where did I ever say that you idiot?

I said there nonsense is not as stupid as your nonsense.

I know, logic is necessary to understand relative values. Keep trying and you might get it.

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#48 Jan 13, 2013
Shoob, it is also very poor form to use a frickin' 7th Day Adventist site to claim what Catholics believe. Since you are in a competing religion there is some obvious bias in your views.
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#49 Jan 13, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Seriously, I doubt if very many Catholics at all believe it.
Do you deny Dr. Kenneth Miller's claim to be Catholic? If the good Dr. Kenneth Miller doesn't care to distinguish his particular brand of superstitions from the infamous heresies of the Roman Catholic Church, which boasts that it never changes, then there is no question that Kenneth Miller has condemned himself by his own confession.

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

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#50 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Do you deny Dr. Kenneth Miller's claim to be Catholic? If the good Dr. Kenneth Miller doesn't care to distinguish his particular brand of superstitions from the infamous heresies of the Roman Catholic Church, which boasts that it never changes, then there is no question that Kenneth Miller has condemned himself by his own confession.
Would you mind filling me in on your scientific background. I am very curious to know.

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#51 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Do you deny Dr. Kenneth Miller's claim to be Catholic? If the good Dr. Kenneth Miller doesn't care to distinguish his particular brand of superstitions from the infamous heresies of the Roman Catholic Church, which boasts that it never changes, then there is no question that Kenneth Miller has condemned himself by his own confession.
Hardly, he does not believe in a nonsensical god that would punish you by not following meaningless rules. You need to talk to him to find exactly what his beliefs are, but your messed up understanding of Catholicism is nothing to base an opinion on.

Everybody ignores certain parts of the Bible, even you. Do you wear mixed fabrics, wait, you are a kooky ex 7th day, who knows what you wear, eat etc.. Surely you don't stone all of the people you are supposed to stone? Those laws did not get changed in the New Covenant.
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#52 Jan 13, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Would you mind filling me in on your scientific background. I am very curious to know.
I am a mathematics professor that dabbles in physics.
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#53 Jan 13, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
your messed up understanding of Catholicism is nothing to base an opinion on.
Ask a Catholic if the Catholic quotes at http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday... are authentic and correct.

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

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#54 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I am a mathematics professor that dabbles in physics.
What is your background in biology?

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#55 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I am a mathematics professor that dabbles in physics.
I read somewhere that you are a middle school math teacher. I don't recall there being professors in middle school. Might you be misleading me just a smidge?
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#56 Jan 13, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>What is your background in biology?
I only dabble a bit in biology and medicine.
http://everythingimportant.org/genome.pdf
http://everythingimportant.org/cancer
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#57 Jan 13, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I read somewhere that you are a middle school math teacher.
Not exactly. You read a false accusation.

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#58 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Ask a Catholic if the Catholic quotes at http://www.everythingimportant.org/seventhday... are authentic and correct.
They may be authentic, I am sure that not all of them are correct. Quote mining is a way of lying and that collection screams quote mining. In other words you're lying is apparent again.

And even if they are authentic and correct they do not apply to the argument. You are trying to use the No true Scotsmen fallacy and applying it to Catholicism. Those quotes have nothing to do with the vast majority of Catholics and there actual beliefs.

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#59 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Not exactly. You read a false accusation.
Yes, it seems that Shoob did graduate from high school but it it very doubtful if he graduated from college. I'd say two semesters at the most.

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#60 Jan 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Not exactly. You read a false accusation.
So you have the opportunity to correct that false accusation. What universities did you attend and what university do you teach at? What journals have you published in? I would be very interested in reading some of your refereed publications.
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#61 Jan 13, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
And even if they are authentic and correct they do not apply to the argument. You are trying to use the No true Scotsmen fallacy and applying it to Catholicism. Those quotes have nothing to do with the vast majority of Catholics and there actual beliefs.
I agree that there's a gigantic disconnect between between what Catholics actually believe and the teachings of the Church. That's why I highlighted The Minimal Principle. It emphasizes the bridge between the two. http://everythingimportant.org

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#62 Jan 13, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, it seems that Shoob did graduate from high school but it it very doubtful if he graduated from college. I'd say two semesters at the most.
Having been through graduate school and working with people that possess advanced degrees, I am no longer surprised when an outlier slips through. A physician friend of mine once asked me what they call the guy that graduates last in medical school. I thought he was serious and didn't know the answer. His answer was Doctor. If Shoob is honest, he will tell me. But I hope he remembers that this is the information age and I don't ask such questions without knowing pretty much what the answer is beforehand.

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