Orthodox anger over plan for compulso...

Orthodox anger over plan for compulsory evolution lessons

There are 38 comments on the Jewish Chronicle story from Feb 14, 2013, titled Orthodox anger over plan for compulsory evolution lessons. In it, Jewish Chronicle reports that:

Government plans to make the teaching of evolution compulsory in UK state primary schools have caused consternation within the Orthodox educational world.

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Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#21 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>What you call evidence is not comprehensible science to middle-school students.
You like all other lying creatards, have no idea what evidence is. Of course ignorance is your last refuge. If you learned to understand evidence then you would have to admit that all evidence supports evolution.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#22 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>What you call evidence is not comprehensible science to middle-school students.
It's comprehensible once they've had an education.
Shubee wrote:
I have never claimed to be an expert in biology. Frankly, I can barely remember anything about the one course I took in biology.
You just lack it.(shrug)
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#23 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
You like all other lying creatards, have no idea what evidence is.
Then let's hear the best argument for middle-school students in terms of verifiable science to persuade them that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor.

“I Am No One Else”

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#24 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>What you call evidence is not comprehensible science to middle-school students.
Probably because when you dropped out of middle school, they were not teaching such advanced concepts.
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#25 Feb 24, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Probably because when you dropped out of middle school, they were not teaching such advanced concepts.
Once again you're judging yourself to be grossly incompetent. If you want to see that, then let's hear your best argument for middle-school students in terms of verifiable science to persuade them that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#26 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Once again you're judging yourself to be grossly incompetent. If you want to see that, then let's hear your best argument for middle-school students in terms of verifiable science to persuade them that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor.
They were not teaching such advanced science when I was in middle school either. So I'd have to get into the college level to do that. Why don't you try not being dishonest for a change?

I mean, considering it took me reading that four times just to figure out what it is you were attempting to assert, and I still probably got it wrong. Learn English, please, because you are lacking any skills using it.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#27 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Then let's hear the best argument for middle-school students in terms of verifiable science to persuade them that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor.
I don't know if that is necessary to teach at a junior high level. Physics and chemistry at a junior high or middleschool level are nowhere near physics or chemistry for majors at a college level.

The fact that we share a common ancestor with an oak tree could be mentioned but there is no need to give evidence for it. Some science takes years to learn and that is not possible at a middle school level.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#28 Feb 25, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Once again you're judging yourself to be grossly incompetent. If you want to see that, then let's hear your best argument for middle-school students in terms of verifiable science to persuade them that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor.
Our DNA. Inherent in all living organisms, it changes with each subsequent generation. DNA is a measure of how closely related organisms are.
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#29 Feb 25, 2013
The Dude wrote:
DNA is a measure of how closely related organisms are.
Sorry, you have failed my test. You need to repeat middle-school science.
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#30 Feb 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
The fact that we share a common ancestor with an oak tree could be mentioned but there is no need to give evidence for it.
So you're one of those typical evolutionists that accepts substituting dogma for verifiable science.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#31 Feb 25, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> So you're one of those typical evolutionists that accepts substituting dogma for verifiable science.
No, all evidence points towards a common ancestor. NO evidence points towards creation. How is it dogmatic to follow the evidence?
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#32 Feb 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
The fact that we share a common ancestor with an oak tree could be mentioned but there is no need to give evidence for it.
You're just a part of the background choir singing that they're no need for developing minds to learn the scientific argument.
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#33 Feb 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
No, all evidence points towards a common ancestor.
I'm tired of choir boys singing that old worn out refrain. If you don't have an argument for common descent that is comprehensible to genius level middle-school students, then please shut up.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#34 Feb 25, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>I'm tired of choir boys singing that old worn out refrain. If you don't have an argument for common descent that is comprehensible to genius level middle-school students, then please shut up.
It is a fact. There is no evidence for creation. If you could supply real evidence you would not be wearing the label of creatard.

The odds are extremely high that you do not understand what evidence is. Most creatards try to hide their head from the definition of scientific evidence.

Here is a simple question for you:

Is the fossil record scientific evidence for evolution or not? There is only one undeniably correct answer.
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#35 Feb 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Is the fossil record scientific evidence for evolution or not?
Answer my question first. Where is the argument for common descent that is comprehensible to genius level middle-school students?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#36 Feb 25, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, you have failed my test. You need to repeat middle-school science.
No, you've failed mine. You need to repeat middle-school science.
Shubee wrote:
I have never claimed to be an expert in biology. Frankly, I can barely remember anything about the one course I took in biology.
Your tests are irrelevant. Clearly.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#37 Feb 25, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Answer my question first. Where is the argument for common descent that is comprehensible to genius level middle-school students?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/T9Q...
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#38 Feb 25, 2013
Sadly, the dude has been so expertly programmed that by all appearances he doesn't even understand my question.

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