Orthodox anger over plan for compulso...

Orthodox anger over plan for compulsory evolution lessons

There are 38 comments on the Jewish Chronicle story from Feb 14, 2013, titled Orthodox anger over plan for compulsory evolution lessons. In it, Jewish Chronicle reports that:

Government plans to make the teaching of evolution compulsory in UK state primary schools have caused consternation within the Orthodox educational world.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#1 Feb 14, 2013
Simple answer. Don't teach any religion in schools, period. Leave that for the church and the home where it belongs. If you don't want your child to have an education then don't send them to school.

This solves their so-called problem regarding "double standards". Which is actually rather amusing considering that science requires evidence yet they demand people take their baseless religious opinions seriously which have ZERO evidence.
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#2 Feb 17, 2013
The State requirement that middle-school students should be taught concepts they can't really comprehend, such as humans and oak trees having a common ancestor, is a State imposed religion.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#3 Feb 17, 2013
Lack of comprehension is solved by teaching. Your lack of comprehension was never solved because you never learned and never wanted to.

Just because someone doesn't understand math does not make teaching math state imposed religion. Sorry, but you already lost this argument in court around 20 years ago. You're still making the same mistake because you never learned last time and never wanted to. That's why creationism lacks progress.

You're still stuck in the 19th century.
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#4 Feb 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
Lack of comprehension is solved by teaching. Your lack of comprehension was never solved because you never learned and never wanted to.
Teaching children that they aught to believe conventional authorities is child abuse. To expect middle school students to believe that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor without a proof is a state imposed religion.

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#5 Feb 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
The State requirement that middle-school students should be taught concepts they can't really comprehend, such as humans and oak trees having a common ancestor, is a State imposed religion.
Of course shoob the boob starts with a lie. Yes, when you are first introduced to any idea you will not understand it. If we have evidence, which we do, to back up the theory of evolution then it is not a religion.

shoob knows that his own beliefs are wrong and evil, he is trying to paint other ideas with the same brush so that his ideas don't seem so bad. That is called projection and it rarely works.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#6 Feb 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Teaching children that they aught to believe conventional authorities is child abuse. To expect middle school students to believe that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor without a proof is a state imposed religion.
Like I said, you lost this argument near 20 years ago. Ad hom is all you can resort to since you have no case.

“I Am No One Else”

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#7 Feb 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Teaching children that they aught to believe conventional authorities is child abuse. To expect middle school students to believe that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor without a proof is a state imposed religion.
So you're against creationism.
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#8 Feb 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you're against creationism.
God is an unconventional authority so I'm all for creationism in a religious context. However, pure science requires quantum creationism.

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#9 Feb 23, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>God is an unconventional authority so I'm all for creationism in a religious context. However, pure science requires quantum creationism.
You don't understand science.
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#10 Feb 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
You don't understand science.
"I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics." --Richard P. Feynman.

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#11 Feb 23, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>"I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics." --Richard P. Feynman.
I didn't say quantum mechanics, I said science.
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#12 Feb 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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I didn't say quantum mechanics, I said science.
Correct, and quantum theory is the science of the supernatural.

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#13 Feb 23, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Correct, and quantum theory is the science of the supernatural.
Thank you for proving you know nothing about science.
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#14 Feb 23, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Quantum theory is the science of the supernatural.
The World English Dictionary
supernatural
adj
1. of or relating to things that cannot be explained according to natural laws
2. characteristic of or caused by or as if by a god; miraculous
3. of, involving, or ascribed to occult beings
4. exceeding the ordinary; abnormal

Usage: Quantum theory as the preeminent example of the supernatural is now acknowledged to be real science in the popular culture.

Proof:

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#15 Feb 23, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> The World English Dictionary
supernatural
adj
1. of or relating to things that cannot be explained according to natural laws
2. characteristic of or caused by or as if by a god; miraculous
3. of, involving, or ascribed to occult beings
4. exceeding the ordinary; abnormal
Usage: Quantum theory as the preeminent example of the supernatural is now acknowledged to be real science in the popular culture.
Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tSNpfeIuCyIXX
Your vid is not proof of anything other than you have no idea what science is.
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#16 Feb 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Your vid is not proof of anything other than you have no idea what science is.
My proof is only a proof of what I claimed it proves. Now I could tell a just-so story. That would be proof that I understand what science is to you.
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#17 Feb 23, 2013
Shubee wrote:
The State requirement that middle-school students should be taught concepts they can't really comprehend, such as humans and oak trees having a common ancestor, is a State imposed religion.
Liar.
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#18 Feb 24, 2013
MIDutch wrote:
Liar.
Please explain how the belief of evolutionists that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor, absolutely incomprehensible to middle-school students in terms of verifiable science, is not a State imposed religion.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#19 Feb 24, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Correct, and quantum theory is the science of the supernatural.
Translation: It's not science.
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain how the belief of evolutionists that humans and oak trees have a common ancestor, absolutely incomprehensible to middle-school students in terms of verifiable science, is not a State imposed religion.
Because it has evidence. And you still lost this argument decades ago. The fact you think that repeating debunked creationists fallacies demonstrates you're not only incapable of learning from your mistakes, you're not even interested in learning from your mistakes.
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#20 Feb 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
Because it has evidence.
What you call evidence is not comprehensible science to middle-school students.

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