where did atoms and matter come from

where did atoms and matter come from

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Alex

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#1 Sep 26, 2018
Our solar system and all we know, including ourselves are supposedly made up of atoms from stars that went super nova billions of years ago. My question is where did the atoms and matter come from that made up those stars that went super nova, and before them, and before them? Where did the atoms and matter come from that were supposedly compressed in the singularity. They either always existed or poofed into existence.
-If they always existed, have they existed for trillions of years?-Could our universe be one of trillions that exist in a area like a super universe, containing more universes than our universe has stars, that run parallel?

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Panorama City, CA

#2 Sep 26, 2018
Alex wrote:
Our solar system and all we know, including ourselves are supposedly made up of atoms from stars that went super nova billions of years ago. My question is where did the atoms and matter come from that made up those stars that went super nova, and before them, and before them? Where did the atoms and matter come from that were supposedly compressed in the singularity. They either always existed or poofed into existence.
-If they always existed, have they existed for trillions of years?-Could our universe be one of trillions that exist in a area like a super universe, containing more universes than our universe has stars, that run parallel?
Never trust atoms, they make up everything.
Alex

United States

#3 Sep 26, 2018
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Never trust atoms, they make up everything.
Bwahahaha! Nice. If you have no answer, make jokes, that's always an easy way out. All atoms and mass had to come from somewhere. Where do you suppose it all came from or have atoms and matter always existed, even for trillions of years?
Alex

United States

#4 Sep 26, 2018
I don't expect to many serious answers on this forum. I'm just fishing. Suppose you believe and accept abiogensis and evolution, what came before them? Atoms, matter, chemicals, building blocks all had to come from somewhere. What brought them forth? Have they existed for trillions of years? What produced them? Did it all just poof into existence? I want to know. Nature could produce anything before nature existed.
Alex

United States

#5 Sep 26, 2018
Error.'Nature "couldn't" produce anything before nature existed'
Tennesseescience

Huntsville, AL

#6 Sep 26, 2018
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Never trust atoms, they make up everything.
Alabamians are the anunnaki sons and daughters of Anu and Ki they created mankind from Hominids spliced with their DNA

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In Your Head

#7 Sep 26, 2018
Alex wrote:
Our solar system and all we know, including ourselves are supposedly made up of atoms from stars that went super nova billions of years ago. My question is where did the atoms and matter come from that made up those stars that went super nova, and before them, and before them? Where did the atoms and matter come from that were supposedly compressed in the singularity. They either always existed or poofed into existence.
-If they always existed, have they existed for trillions of years?-Could our universe be one of trillions that exist in a area like a super universe, containing more universes than our universe has stars, that run parallel?
You are wasting time by asking questions that are legit. But if you want to argue about God and the bible, which is pointless, you will get all the replies you want. Cheers
ExistenceUnknown

United States

#8 Sep 27, 2018
Alex wrote:
Our solar system and all we know, including ourselves are supposedly made up of atoms from stars that went super nova billions of years ago. My question is where did the atoms and matter come from that made up those stars that went super nova, and before them, and before them? Where did the atoms and matter come from that were supposedly compressed in the singularity. They either always existed or poofed into existence.
-If they always existed, have they existed for trillions of years?-Could our universe be one of trillions that exist in a area like a super universe, containing more universes than our universe has stars, that run parallel?
The fact that we are here and self aware is a miracle. How that actually happened, no one has a clue.

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#10 Sep 30, 2018
Alex wrote:
Our solar system and all we know, including ourselves are supposedly made up of atoms from stars that went super nova billions of years ago. My question is where did the atoms and matter come from that made up those stars that went super nova, and before them, and before them? Where did the atoms and matter come from that were supposedly compressed in the singularity. They either always existed or poofed into existence.
-If they always existed, have they existed for trillions of years?-Could our universe be one of trillions that exist in a area like a super universe, containing more universes than our universe has stars, that run parallel?
Look at it in reverse, which is how Science explores the quantum world. They extrapolate back one small stage at a time and I'm almost sure they have an accurate hypothesis up to a milisecond after the appearance of our universal reality. We never be able to go further but we'll keep trying. However whatever occured prior to the formation of our universe would not be part of our reality. It would be the reality that predates our own.
I see that mirrored in the natural forces which drive random evolution. Change is cnstant and chaotic in its origins because it is a product of random variables. Most change is gradual, but certain events cause rapid environmental changes as energy transforms into base elements and matter. The universe we ourselves inhabit.

Since: May 17

Orlando, FL

#12 Oct 27, 2018
Alex wrote:
Our solar system and all we know, including ourselves are supposedly made up of atoms from stars that went super nova billions of years ago. My question is where did the atoms and matter come from that made up those stars that went super nova, and before them, and before them? Where did the atoms and matter come from that were supposedly compressed in the singularity. They either always existed or poofed into existence.
-If they always existed, have they existed for trillions of years?-Could our universe be one of trillions that exist in a area like a super universe, containing more universes than our universe has stars, that run parallel?
You need to study the information about the Big Bang theory and how elements are formed within stars and as a result of novae and supernovae. According to the latest science the universe, and therefore matter and energy, has existed for about 13.8 billion years, not trillions of years. As for how the singularity forme, there is a theory involving black holes, however, we will probably not be able to see past the singularity and the Big Bang, which by the way was neither big nor a bang.
Mike

United States

#13 Oct 29, 2018
Al Caplan wrote:
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You need to study the information about the Big Bang theory and how elements are formed within stars and as a result of novae and supernovae. According to the latest science the universe, and therefore matter and energy, has existed for about 13.8 billion years, not trillions of years. As for how the singularity forme, there is a theory involving black holes, however, we will probably not be able to see past the singularity and the Big Bang, which by the way was neither big nor a bang.
Are the atoms that make up our bodies billions of years old?

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Since: Jun 09

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Oct 29, 2018
Mike wrote:
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Are the atoms that make up our bodies billions of years old?
Obviously.
Mike

United States

#15 Oct 30, 2018
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Obviously.
Then you are suggesting in an indirect way that the smallest particle's which make up our material world and universe are the same age and your idea of time is an estimated guess.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Santa Fe, NM

#16 Oct 30, 2018
Mike wrote:
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Then you are suggesting in an indirect way that the smallest particle's which make up our material world and universe are the same age and your idea of time is an estimated guess.
I am suggesting that your comment is word salad.
Science

Buffalo, NY

#17 Oct 30, 2018
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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I am suggesting that your comment is word salad.
It's probably just probably more of Into the Night/Replaytime/Positronium socks. 75 percent of all posters to here from United States on their Isp sound like him/her/it/them?

Something seriously wrong with its medula oblongata.

He/They/It need my brain guy.
Alex

United States

#18 Oct 30, 2018
Al Caplan wrote:
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You need to study the information about the Big Bang theory and how elements are formed within stars and as a result of novae and supernovae. According to the latest science the universe, and therefore matter and energy, has existed for about 13.8 billion years, not trillions of years. As for how the singularity forme, there is a theory involving black holes, however, we will probably not be able to see past the singularity and the Big Bang, which by the way was neither big nor a bang.
Where did the matter and elements come from to form the first stars?

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Santa Fe, NM

#22 Oct 30, 2018
Alex wrote:
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Where did the matter and elements come from to form the first stars?
Physics.
Mike

United States

#23 Oct 31, 2018
Alex wrote:
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Where did the matter and elements come from to form the first stars?
The smallest particles that make up all material thing's appeared instantly.
Simon

Ewing, VA

#24 Oct 31, 2018
Mike wrote:
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The smallest particles that make up all material thing's appeared instantly.
There was a lot of energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation (photons). When photons have enough energy, they can spontaneously decay into a particle and an antiparticle. Photons belong to a class of sub-atomic particles called 'bosons' that decay the same way. Besides photons, the other bosons (such as gluons, W and Z particles) that existed just after the big bang were so energetic that they could decay into massive particles such as protons.(to make a particle with a large mass, we need a boson with a high energy - this is mass-energy equivalence).
The Higgs field gave the massless particles mass and the mass in the universe came from these decays.

Since: May 17

Orlando, FL

#25 Nov 4, 2018
Mike wrote:
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Are the atoms that make up our bodies billions of years old?
Yes, of course. As it is said, we are made of star stuff.

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