The Satanic Character of Social Darwi...

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#192 Aug 21, 2014
MikeF wrote:
Or that of Satan in his bedroom.
Which is better: To merely dream that you're being attacked by Satan while you sleep or being a willing agent of Satan while you're wide awake? I suppose, however, that you're content being where you are: A hapless dupe doing Satan's bidding but being completely in the dark about what the real issues are?

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#193 Aug 21, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> You're speaking gibberish. I was at the top of my class when I studied stochastic processes for my math degree at UCSD.

Very likely that was before your disorder kicked in.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#194 Aug 21, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> You misunderstood me. I simply asserted that Dr. Russell Blaylock M.D. is an authoritative voice.

Why would you assert that?

He is only an MD, not a PhD researcher.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#195 Aug 21, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> Which is better: To merely dream that you're being attacked by Satan while you sleep or being a willing agent of Satan while you're wide awake? I suppose, however, that you're content being where you are: A hapless dupe doing Satan's bidding but being completely in the dark about what the real issues are?

Wow. Major projection.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#196 Aug 21, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> I have a proclivity to believe in the unanswered challenges of dissident scientists.
http://everythingimportant.org/vaccines

And that, you do understand, is a fundamental error in logic.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#197 Aug 21, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> That's right. We have to give credit where credit is due. There has been a lot of evolution going on since the flood. The near endless varieties of species of animals that exist today, not the mention the confused species that God didn't create, which perished in Noah's flood, seems to acknowledge a lot of basic scientific fact.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!

FLOOD! This ninny believes LITERALLY in the stolen Noah myth!!!!!!

I LOVE IT!

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#198 Aug 21, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
I point out that Ellen White refers to Satan as the agent in "amalgamation" to describe the great variety of transgenic plants:
Not one noxious plant was placed in the Lord's great garden, but after Adam and Eve sinned, poisonous herbs sprang up. In the parable of the sower the question was asked the master, "Didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?" The master answered, "An enemy hath done this" (Matthew 13:27, 28). All tares are sown by the evil one. Every noxious herb is of his sowing, and by his ingenious methods of amalgamation he has corrupted the earth with tares. Selected Messages Book 2 (1958), p. 288.
Can anyone prove that the dinosaurs were not transgenic? The Bible does teach that there is a curse on mankind because of the fall of Adam and Eve. If Satan was the agent in creating transgenic plants and dinosaurs, then I find it reasonable to conclude that all humans and animals today are to some degree transgenic.

And I thought hallucinogenic drugs were out of vogue.

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#199 Aug 21, 2014
Chimney1 wrote:
I watched and its interesting. You have to consider also the following:
1. Children are now being exposed to foods nobody evolved to eat.
2. Parents are having children later and there is evidence that later fatherhood is associated with autism too.
3. The evidence given in the part I saw in the documentary was anecdotal, not clinical or even epidemiological.
Its definitely a pointer to the need to look more closely at the potential risks, but the challenges of finding cause versus mere correlation in real world data are enormous.
Nope. It's already a proven fact. See Autism and Vaccines: CDC Whistleblower Exposes Vaccine Dangers, Lies, and Cover-Ups (Video) By Michael Edwards, organiclifestylemagazine.com | August 19, 2014
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/891667-autism...
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#200 Aug 22, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> TurkeyBoy on page 8 post #156 was the first to bring up Ellen G. White and her claims about "amalgamation." Since I'm a Millerite Adventist, not a Seventh-day Adventist, I proposed an alternative theory citing a recent scientific theory about all plants and animals being transgenic to some degree.
TurkeyBoy was also the first to bring up the ardent anti-Semitism of Martin Luther and then claimed that I was antisemitic just for being a Protestant. He completely ignored my rebuttal, which is my love for Noam Chomsky (a Jew) and my love for literally tens of thousands of Orthodox Jews in a video that were protesting the Zionist State of Israel. TurkeyBoy is unquestionably completely irrational and a very sick puppy.
And NOW you know how it feels when you are judged by distorting your opinions by blindly comparing them with the sayings of one of their founding fathers, and, subsequently, ignoring the rebuttals you produce.

With this important difference: Luther, the founding father of your cult WAS an ardent anti-Semitist.
And Darwin ISN'T the one who coined for social-"Darwinism" - that was Herbert Spencer.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#201 Aug 22, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> Nope. It's already a proven fact. See Autism and Vaccines: CDC Whistleblower Exposes Vaccine Dangers, Lies, and Cover-Ups (Video) By Michael Edwards, organiclifestylemagazine.com | August 19, 2014
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/891667-autism...
YOU have proven NOTHING.

It was coined by Andrew Wakefield in 1998 in a straight fraudulent research paper in the medical journal The Lancet. for those who are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_cont... .

Quotes:

After the publication of the paper, other researchers were unable to reproduce Wakefield's findings or confirm his hypothesis of an association between the MMR vaccine and autism or autism and gastrointestinal disease. A 2004 investigation by Sunday Times reporter Brian Deer identified undisclosed financial conflicts of interest on Wakefield's part, and most of his co-authors then withdrew their support for the study's interpretations.

The British General Medical Council conducted an inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield and two former colleagues. The investigation centred on Deer's numerous findings, including that children with autism were subjected to unnecessary invasive medical procedures, such as colonoscopy and lumbar puncture, and that Wakefield acted without the required ethical approval from an institutional review board.

On 28 January 2010, a five-member statutory tribunal of the GMC found three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children. The panel ruled that Wakefield had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted both against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his published research. The Lancet immediately and fully retracted his 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC's findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified. Wakefield was struck off the Medical Register in May 2010, with a statement identifying deliberate falsification in The Lancet research, and is barred from practising medicine in the UK.

In January 2011, in a follow-up article, Deer said that Wakefield had planned to launch a venture on the back of an MMR vaccination scare that would profit from new medical tests and "litigation driven testing". In November 2011, yet another report in BMJ revealed original raw data indicating that, contrary to Wakefield's claims in The Lancet, children in his research did not have inflammatory bowel disease.

Wakefield's study and his claim led to an actual decline in vaccination rates in the United States, United Kingdom and Ireland and a corresponding rise in measles and mumps, resulting in serious illness and fatalities, and his continued warnings against the vaccine have contributed to a climate of distrust of all vaccines and the re-emergence of other previously controlled diseases.

After vaccination rates dropped, the incidence of two of the three diseases increased greatly in the UK. In 1998 there were 56 confirmed cases of measles in the UK; in 2006 there were 449 in the first five months of the year, with the first death since 1992; cases occurred in inadequately vaccinated children. Mumps cases began rising in 1999 after years of very few cases, and by 2005 the United Kingdom was in a mumps epidemic with almost 5000 notifications in the first month of 2005 alone.

Measles and mumps cases continued in 2006, at incidence rates 13 and 37 times greater than respective 1998 levels. Two children were severely and permanently injured by measles encephalitis despite undergoing kidney transplantation in London

The references are abundant and in the Wiki article.

To my humble opinion, mr. Wakefield belongs behind bars.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#202 Aug 22, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> Nope. It's already a proven fact. See Autism and Vaccines: bla bla bla.
YOU have proven NOTHING.

It was coined by Andrew Wakefield in 1998 in a straight fraudulent research paper in the medical journal The Lancet. for those who are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_cont... .

Quotes:

After the publication of the paper, other researchers were unable to reproduce Wakefield's findings or confirm his hypothesis of an association between the MMR vaccine and autism or autism and gastrointestinal disease. A 2004 investigation by Sunday Times reporter Brian Deer identified undisclosed financial conflicts of interest on Wakefield's part, and most of his co-authors then withdrew their support for the study's interpretations.

The British General Medical Council conducted an inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield and two former colleagues. The investigation centred on Deer's numerous findings, including that children with autism were subjected to unnecessary invasive medical procedures, such as colonoscopy and lumbar puncture, and that Wakefield acted without the required ethical approval from an institutional review board.

On 28 January 2010, a five-member statutory tribunal of the GMC found three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children. The panel ruled that Wakefield had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted both against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his published research. The Lancet immediately and fully retracted his 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC's findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified. Wakefield was struck off the Medical Register in May 2010, with a statement identifying deliberate falsification in The Lancet research, and is barred from practising medicine in the UK.

In January 2011, in a follow-up article, Deer said that Wakefield had planned to launch a venture on the back of an MMR vaccination scare that would profit from new medical tests and "litigation driven testing". In November 2011, yet another report in BMJ revealed original raw data indicating that, contrary to Wakefield's claims in The Lancet, children in his research did not have inflammatory bowel disease.

Wakefield's study and his claim led to an actual decline in vaccination rates in the United States, United Kingdom and Ireland and a corresponding rise in measles and mumps, resulting in serious illness and fatalities, and his continued warnings against the vaccine have contributed to a climate of distrust of all vaccines and the re-emergence of other previously controlled diseases.

After vaccination rates dropped, the incidence of two of the three diseases increased greatly in the UK. In 1998 there were 56 confirmed cases of measles in the UK; in 2006 there were 449 in the first five months of the year, with the first death since 1992; cases occurred in inadequately vaccinated children. Mumps cases began rising in 1999 after years of very few cases, and by 2005 the United Kingdom was in a mumps epidemic with almost 5000 notifications in the first month of 2005 alone.

Measles and mumps cases continued in 2006, at incidence rates 13 and 37 times greater than respective 1998 levels. Two children were severely and permanently injured by measles encephalitis despite undergoing kidney transplantation in London

The references are abundant and in the Wiki article.

To my humble opinion, mr. Wakefield belongs behind bars.

“Maccullochella macquariensis”

Since: May 08

Melbourne, Australia

#203 Aug 22, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> Nope. It's already a proven fact. See Autism and Vaccines: CDC Whistleblower Exposes Vaccine Dangers, Lies, and Cover-Ups (Video) By Michael Edwards, organiclifestylemagazine.com | August 19, 2014
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/891667-autism...
Yeah, and I've got faeries living at the bottom of my garden. Next thing you'll be telling us that we didn't go to the moon. Oh, yeah, you already tried that one. Tell me Eugene, is there any woo you don't give credence to?

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#204 Aug 22, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
After the publication of the paper, other researchers were unable to reproduce Wakefield's findings or confirm his hypothesis of an association between the MMR vaccine and autism
I believe Dr. Wakefield, the alarming video on the history of the CDC and this news story: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/891667-autism...

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#205 Aug 22, 2014
Bluenose wrote:
Next thing you'll be telling us that we didn't go to the moon. Oh, yeah, you already tried that one. Tell me Eugene, is there any woo you don't give credence to?
You must know that you're a liar, right? As I've already explained, I trust the unanswered challenges of respected dissident scientists above mainstream presstitutes and unquestionably evil organizations like the CDC.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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#206 Aug 22, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> You must know that you're a liar, right? As I've already explained, I trust the unanswered challenges of respected dissident scientists above mainstream presstitutes and unquestionably evil organizations like the CDC.
Why were you pretending that Zog Has fallen was not really you when you first started posting as Zog, Eugene? If you are Zog, how do we know you aren't Satan. This could be your diabolical plan to take over Topix and turn it into the go to place for whacked out nut jobs to talk about conspiracies and how that which never happened really did happen if you just open your mind and empty it of thought.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#207 Aug 22, 2014
Zog Has-fallen wrote:
<quoted text> You must know that you're a liar, right? As I've already explained, I trust the unanswered challenges of respected dissident scientists above mainstream presstitutes and unquestionably evil organizations like the CDC.
I thought SDA was an evil organization, but since they had you arrested, I am having to rethink that.

How do you manage to hold down a job as a teacher? It must be tough living a lie during those times so that you aren't carted off to soft walls and finger painting time.

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#208 Aug 22, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
Wikipedia is for the propagation of mainstream beliefs that are decided on by a majority of editors. Anyone can edit Wikipedia. For proof, see http://www.collegehumor.com/video/3581424/pro... #!bH5Wyr
However, Translational Neurodegeneration is a peer-reviewed journal. There is no comparison.

I therefore direct attention to a truly credible article that validates my claims: Measles-mumps-rubella vaccination timing and autism among young african american boys: a reanalysis of CDC data by Brian S Hooker.
http://www.translationalneurodegeneration.com...

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#209 Aug 22, 2014
There's more breaking news today on the CDC vaccine scandal: Now the CDC is refusing to turn over requested documents to Congress.

The cover-up involves the CDC deliberately burying data proving that MMR vaccines caused a huge increase in autism among African-American babies:
http://www.naturalnews.com/046553_MMR_vaccine...

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#210 Aug 22, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
YOU have proven NOTHING.
There's no question that I proved my point: You're a hapless dupe doing Satan's bidding and are completely in the dark about what the real issues are.
everythingimportant.org

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#211 Aug 22, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
How do you manage to hold down a job as a teacher?
Try to find any reference to Eugene Shubert as a teacher anywhere in Texas.

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