It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the ...

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

There are 160830 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Mar 15, 2009, titled It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...

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#126052 Jan 27, 2014
Dogen wrote:
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DING, DING, DING, DING, DING!!!
We have a winner.
Dan, no offence, but if it took you 3 years to figure that out then,..... well, maybe the knife needs to be resharpened.
Like you have said before, I am an optimist.
SupaAFC

Elgin, UK

#126053 Jan 27, 2014
mrksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>Evolution has never been well supported, it is a faith based humanist philosophy. After all the things you named above, human from non-human evolution has never been observed, tested, nor replicated, which is demanded by the scientific method. THus human from non-human evolution is not science. As far as creationism? It is a faith based belief system also. You can laugh about it if you want, there are millions who do not, but do laugh at human evolutionists. I witnessed it yesterday. I don't care who is our next president, who dies next year, and who wins the super bowl, world series, or the NBA champions, human from non-human evolution will still not be science.
I didn't ask for a rant, I asked what progress you and like-minded people have made in debunking evolution and getting it thrown out of scientific and academic circles.

What progress have you guys made? What are your projections for 2014? When's evolution getting thrown out of public classrooms? When are scientists going to dump evolution as a valid theory?

Where's the results of the last 4-6 years, Marksman?

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#126054 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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Thank you for the clarification. What important data did I disregard, and what data did I misrepresent, and how was it misrepresented?
I don't have time and Topix doesn't provide the space to list it all. Lets stay contemporary and refer back to my point that you initially responded to. You claimed I didn't provide an example when the example was clearly provided.

I will lump the remaining 5000 pages into this statement. YOU LIE ABOUT PROVIDING DATA TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS AND YOU LIE ABOUT OBJECTIVELY REVIEWING DATA SUPPLIED TO YOU.

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#126055 Jan 27, 2014
Chimney1 wrote:
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Well that's a start.
As demonstrated to you already, the Flood as described in the Bible did not happen.
So its not a great history book either, especially the earlier parts. Its a mythical / legendary chronicle of a people, and just like the Japanese or Hindu or Maori traditions, the early part is pure supernatural myth. Of course, if you ask a Hindu, he may still believe it too.
Flood? Did you say flood???

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/01/24/anc...
KAB

United States

#126056 Jan 27, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>If you understood, you wouldn't have made such a stupid post. You can argue all you want, but your hypothesis isn't supported by the haplotype data. If only a portion of the data supports your hypothesis, it isn't a complete hypothesis.
All the data which supports evolution also supports design. If you think otherwise, provide specific data for consideration.
KAB

United States

#126057 Jan 27, 2014
Chimney1 wrote:
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Well that's a start.
As demonstrated to you already, the Flood as described in the Bible did not happen.
So its not a great history book either, especially the earlier parts. Its a mythical / legendary chronicle of a people, and just like the Japanese or Hindu or Maori traditions, the early part is pure supernatural myth. Of course, if you ask a Hindu, he may still believe it too.
It has not been demostrated that the flood described in the Bible did not happen. It has been demonstrated that various versions of the flood as described by your side did not happen.

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#126058 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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Thank you for the clarification. What important data did I disregard, and what data did I misrepresent, and how was it misrepresented?

You misrepresent nearly everything.

For example, in the above you suggest you don't know what you disregarded. That is a lie.

You suggest you don't know what data you misrepresented. That too is a lie.

You suggest you don't know how it was misrepresented. That, again, is a lie.


Keep working at driving people away from your Jehovah Witness cult. They see you as a representative and they run.

Pray continue.

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#126059 Jan 27, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Like you have said before, I am an optimist.

And as you know, I am contaminated with that affliction, as well.

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#126060 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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All the data which supports evolution also supports design. If you think otherwise, provide specific data for consideration.

This is false. There is NO data which supports design. Your inability of demonstrate any is support of that thesis.


Remember the standards of the scientific method.



oh,.... I'm sorry. I meant LEARN the standards of the scientific method!

Silly me.

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#126061 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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It has not been demostrated that the flood described in the Bible did not happen. It has been demonstrated that various versions of the flood as described by your side did not happen.
There's more than enough evidence from many different lines that show conclusively (to any RATIONAL individual), that a world-wide flood has not happened on earth in the last several million years.

You've seen just the tip of the iceberg of the evidence against this flood, without your providing one iota of evidence FOR this flood (and no, the Bible is *NOT* evidence).
KAB

United States

#126062 Jan 27, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have time and Topix doesn't provide the space to list it all. Lets stay contemporary and refer back to my point that you initially responded to. You claimed I didn't provide an example when the example was clearly provided.
I will lump the remaining 5000 pages into this statement. YOU LIE ABOUT PROVIDING DATA TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS AND YOU LIE ABOUT OBJECTIVELY REVIEWING DATA SUPPLIED TO YOU.
I readily acknowledged the contemporary misunderstanding, and made the correction as I always do. Beyond that, I knew you wouldn't provide data confirming your assertions because you can't. I couldn't/wouldn't/don't live like that. I always provide and have even repeated data confirming when someone is incorrect.

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#126063 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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It has not been demostrated that the flood described in the Bible did not happen.

That is a lie. We have 10 independent lines of evidence just since I have been keeping track. 9 or 10. One is a bit iffy as it overlaps with another.
KAB wrote:
<quoted text> It has been demonstrated that various versions of the flood as described by your side did not happen.

No. No global flood could have happened anywhere near the time frame you claim the Bible establishes. That has been the criteria for most of our refutations.

If there was a global flood 2,000,000,000 years ago then most of our objections fall by the wayside. But in the last 5,000 years. Nope. Never happened.

You are welcome to continue to lie about it however. Lying looks good on your JW resume.

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#126064 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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It has not been demostrated that the flood described in the Bible did not happen. It has been demonstrated that various versions of the flood as described by your side did not happen.
Don't ever claim to be logical again.

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#126065 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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Is Lucifer also identified in Muppet Treasure Island and Ravel's Bolero or only in Isaiah 14?
Again, the quote has nothing to do with anything. Was Rob Petrie a comedy writer? Was Joe Friday a policeman? You claim that it was a -->certainty<-- that a serpent "spoke" with a woman. Bullcrap. You got nuthin'. No garden, no Eve, no puppet serpent, no invisible ventriloquist. Nuthin'. Not even a magic tree to get ring data from.
Kermit is every bit as real as Lucifer. So is Lambchop. Shari Lewis and Jim Henson didn't claim to speak for a god, a devil, or a cult - with that little bit of honesty they couldn't have trumped your "Truth" and "integrity" any more thoroughly with a 2 ton wrecking ball.

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#126066 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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It has not been demostrated that the flood described in the Bible did not happen. It has been demonstrated that various versions of the flood as described by your side did not happen.
Careful there, KAB - "Lucifer" seems to be getting quite adroit at putting lies in your mouth.
It has been exhaustively demonstrated that the flood as described BY YOUR SIDE did not and could not happen.

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#126067 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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It has not been demostrated that the flood described in the Bible did not happen. It has been demonstrated that various versions of the flood as described by your side did not happen.
Do you really believe it rained 4 inches per minute every minute for 60 days and nights?

Could you explain how Noah gathered the microscopic life that he could not see?

Why is there not mass build up of fossils in the strata from all different species that would have died at the same time?

How did Noah travel the earth and retrieve two of every species and how did Noah travel the earth and redistribute those same species back to their environments?

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#126068 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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All the data which supports evolution also supports design. If you think otherwise, provide specific data for consideration.
It is your claim. YOU provide the data. Bet you won't.

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#126069 Jan 27, 2014
KAB wrote:
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I readily acknowledged the contemporary misunderstanding, and made the correction as I always do. Beyond that, I knew you wouldn't provide data confirming your assertions because you can't. I couldn't/wouldn't/don't live like that. I always provide and have even repeated data confirming when someone is incorrect.
You have provided data in only a couple of instances over three years. I said your post was an example. I pointed out to you that your post was the example. How many ways can I say it so that you will understand?

You eat, sleep, breath and live lies on here in a continuous cycle. The only person you may be fooling is yourself.

I have asked you many times for the data you are using to make your assertions and have been ignored. You can pretend all you want, but that is a fact.

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#126070 Jan 27, 2014
HTN640509-040147 wrote:
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Do you really believe it rained 4 inches per minute every minute for 60 days and nights?
Could you explain how Noah gathered the microscopic life that he could not see?
Why is there not mass build up of fossils in the strata from all different species that would have died at the same time?
How did Noah travel the earth and retrieve two of every species and how did Noah travel the earth and redistribute those same species back to their environments?
For that matter, how were the environments re-established after a cataclysmic, global flood?

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#126071 Jan 27, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>You have provided data in only a couple of instances over three years. I said your post was an example. I pointed out to you that your post was the example. How many ways can I say it so that you will understand?
You eat, sleep, breath and live lies on here in a continuous cycle. The only person you may be fooling is yourself.
I have asked you many times for the data you are using to make your assertions and have been ignored. You can pretend all you want, but that is a fact.

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