It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the ...

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124346 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Try quoting me on that. You won't.

Yes. It would be hard to quote you on your failure to provide information.

You can't stop being dishonest for one post.

You are like an addict who can't stop lying even when lying isn't necessary! Addicts can forget they are lying and manufacture their own truth.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#124347 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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As you can see from the link provided here you are patently confirmned wrong again!
So, by all means, please go with the data in the future.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA...
You asked a question which is patently misleading and inaccurate, then another, then provided a statement which the record shows is patently erroneous. I am patently confirmed accurate.
KAB

Wilson, NC

#124348 Dec 22, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>The very nature of this forum results in you being quoted. You are making a circular argument.
Considering that you do insult people, how can you expect me to believe you didn't start it off. But you insult the intelligence of every intelligent person that has posted on here with your refusal to provide data, listen to reason and consider belief over evidence.
As confirmed by the quotes in this forum, I am not making a circular argument.
KAB

Wilson, NC

#124349 Dec 22, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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We have enough and they should all show a massive disruption as 4500 years and they do not.
You need to explain how that could happen if your extraordinary hypothesis is true.
You have not.
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There is not huge uncertainty in the mutation rate as it is readily observable by looking at mtDNA in living humans and seeing how many vary from their mothers'. Its been done. If there is any measurement error, its certainly not in the region of 30x magnitude difference required to compress 150K into 5K.
I would readily accept that a new measure might change the estimate by 5% or 10% but certainly not by 3000%
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You might believe that of yourself but I very much doubt it. You would in fact apply the same scrutiny to the claims made by the Hindus as we do to yours, and find them sorely wanting, as we do to yours. You dismiss the Quran (rightly) on the basis of one maths error made, but ignore the errors of your own favoured text. You have a double standard, and its hypocritical.
The "massive disruption" seen in the ice cores need be nothing more than a melt layer, and there are melt layers. You have provided no data confirming otherwise.

Please provide data showing single generation mutation measurements. I have not yet found any.

Regarding scrutiny, my methodology is nothing like yours. You declare errors by not allowing legitimate variations of meaning. I do not since such is itself erroneous.
KAB

Wilson, NC

#124350 Dec 22, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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That is assuming Genesis was always right and Jesus was always right.
And of course, you have merely, unwittingly, proven that Jesus was not always right.
Christians who hold onto their money instead of giving it all away, plan for tomorrow unlike the lillies of the field, remain friends with their parents, and go to the doctor when they are sick hoping for medicine not prayers, will be highly relieved to hear that.
Regarding the lilies of the field, Jesus was discussing anxiety not planning, wasn't he?
KAB

Wilson, NC

#124351 Dec 22, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You asked a question which is patently misleading and inaccurate, then another, then provided a statement which the record shows is patently erroneous. I am patently confirmed accurate.
It's ironic, tho not unexpected, that you are inaccurate even in declaring your accuracy.
You stated that I only make statements regarding Bible quotes. The statement you acknowledge was not regarding a Bible quote.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#124352 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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As confirmed by the quotes in this forum, I am not making a circular argument.
Your belief that the Bible is true because the Bible says it's true is the classic of circular logics, just as your own claims of your own veracity regardless of the written evidence.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124353 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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As confirmed by the quotes in this forum, I am not making a circular argument.

You mean the quotes in this forum that are mocking you?

You are making a circular argument. It matters not how wide the circle is.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124354 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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The "massive disruption" seen in the ice cores need be nothing more than a melt layer, and there are melt layers. You have provided no data confirming otherwise.

Incorrect. If only you had some inkling of how a flood would effect a layer of ice. Flooding over ice tends to seep into cracks and fissures and cause holes, ice caves, then collapse of large sections of ice then the sheet itself. And all of that from localized flooding without covering the entire sheet!

KAB wrote:
<quoted text> Please provide data showing single generation mutation measurements. I have not yet found any.

You have not really looked. Or, even more likely, you don't understand how to look for research and just try shooting a few key words through Google.

KAB wrote:
<quoted text> Regarding scrutiny, my methodology is nothing like yours.

True, the rest of us have to adhere to the scientific method while you are free to make up anything you please.

Tell us some new lies. Your old ones are tired.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124355 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Regarding the lilies of the field, Jesus was discussing anxiety not planning, wasn't he?

Planning as a result of anxiety.

Most planning is driven by anxiety and it's close cousin Fear.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124356 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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It's ironic, tho not unexpected, that you are inaccurate even in declaring your accuracy.
You stated that I only make statements regarding Bible quotes. The statement you acknowledge was not regarding a Bible quote.

This is a lie. He was commenting on your question, not on the statement in your post. You are losing your capacity to even dodge well.

ChromiuMan wrote:
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You asked a question which is patently misleading and inaccurate, then another, then provided a statement which the record shows is patently erroneous. I am patently confirmed accurate.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124357 Dec 22, 2013
Dogen wrote:
More posts KAB is frightened of responding to:124289-124293
As long as he is posting words he thinks he is in the game. The FACT that he has DEMONSTRATED consistent IGNORANCE of science notwithstanding.

He is still running.
KAB

Wilson, NC

#124358 Dec 22, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Your belief that the Bible is true because the Bible says it's true is the classic of circular logics, just as your own claims of your own veracity regardless of the written evidence.
That's why it's not my belief.
KAB

Wilson, NC

#124359 Dec 22, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Incorrect. If only you had some inkling of how a flood would effect a layer of ice. Flooding over ice tends to seep into cracks and fissures and cause holes, ice caves, then collapse of large sections of ice then the sheet itself. And all of that from localized flooding without covering the entire sheet!
<quoted text>
You have not really looked. Or, even more likely, you don't understand how to look for research and just try shooting a few key words through Google.
<quoted text>
True, the rest of us have to adhere to the scientific method while you are free to make up anything you please.
Tell us some new lies. Your old ones are tired.
Does the ice sheet behavior you describe occur if the ice sheet is submerged in the flood?
KAB

Wilson, NC

#124360 Dec 22, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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This is a lie. He was commenting on your question, not on the statement in your post. You are losing your capacity to even dodge well.
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You asked a question which is patently misleading and inaccurate, then another, then provided a statement which the record shows is patently erroneous. I am patently confirmed accurate.
Oh inattentive one, you've done it again! My post was provided only to demonstrate that I had provided a non-Bible-reference statement, confirming he incorrectly claimed I had not done so.
KAB

Wilson, NC

#124361 Dec 22, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Planning as a result of anxiety.
Most planning is driven by anxiety and it's close cousin Fear.
No wonder Jesus was counselling against being driven by anxiety.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124362 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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That's why it's not my belief.

Sorry chump, but you have been arguing for literalism in, of all places, the flood story.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124363 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Does the ice sheet behavior you describe occur if the ice sheet is submerged in the flood?

Submerging and reemerging. While submerged the ice would simply break away, float and break up.

Ice sheets float.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124364 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Oh inattentive one, you've done it again! My post was provided only to demonstrate that I had provided a non-Bible-reference statement, confirming he incorrectly claimed I had not done so.

LOL. You need to go back and look. It was a contextual statement.

So you are still wrong.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#124365 Dec 22, 2013
KAB wrote:
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No wonder Jesus was counselling against being driven by anxiety.

And planning.

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