It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the ...

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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#119966 Jul 19, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I was unaware of the Burckle crater until now. Consider it considered.
A telling point regarding your data filter. I've only mentioned it 4 or 5 times. It's understood that your "considered" is synonymous to "omitted", of course.

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#119967 Jul 19, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Everybody's gotta have a hobby.
Maybe I should take up knitting.
You could take up writing sf novels. I have an idea for one where a mysterious and immensely powerful intellect decides to obliterate an entire world's population except for one family... or how about a superhero who gets his strength from keratin strands on his head? You could even write in an evil villainess beautician romance thing.
Then I have a plot device where an army uses prolonged sonic resonance to break through stone walls, and another one for a fantasy where a wizard has a magic staff that controls water and turns into a snake.

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#119968 Jul 19, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I was unaware of the Burckle crater until now. Consider it considered.

Finding evidence of a crater without any evidence of an actual flood would not help your case, would it?

Finding evidence of a universal bottleneck from 4,500 ybp would do so, however.

Are you sure you are spending your research time wisely?

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#119969 Jul 20, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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May I recommend trying your hand at Token Gringo. I'm having a blast. Saturday I went to Nancy's cinceaƱera. That's like a coming out party or debutante ball for a young lady on her fifteenth birthday. I danced with all the unescorted women and a few of the escorted ones and now they call me 'Mil Amores' which means a thousand loves or a thousand lovers. I'm not sure which.
On the theory they might be married I only danced with everyone once except Gloria. I danced with her three times on account of they kept telling me she wanted to dance. I think they're trying to fix us up. Best case scenario: her husband got deported. Worst case scenario: she's single. I'm not totally opposed to the machinations of those women trying to fix us up on account of Gloria's a living doll but I wonder if they have any plans for us after we're fixed.
Peace be with you.
I think you mean "quinceanera" with a tilde over the second "n."
KAB

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#119970 Jul 20, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>You have done nothing to explain or refute anything on that list or the many other items that challenge or completely rule out a global flood.
Pick anyone. Give yourself some time to develop a very convoluted, data-free argument and don't forget a backdoor to dodge your way out. Do a better job of trying to sound like you understand even a tenth of the material being discussed.
I choose point number 11.

"11. I await your data explaining why the flood myths of China are in no way similar to the global flood myth outside of the fact that all are about floods."

What data do you need to convince you that accounts can change as they are handed down thru time?
KAB

Taiwan

#119971 Jul 20, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>If nothing happened and by virtue of that no evidence could exist to be found, then you wouldn't expect a search for it would you.
What we are left with is a delusional group of freaked out fanatics desperate to show that a non-existent event occured. As one of the spokespeople for this group, you don't bring science, reeason, logic or data to the table. You bring, myth, speculation and word fencing.
You're entitled to your opinion.

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#119972 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I was unaware of the Burckle crater until now. Consider it considered.
I didn't ask about a crater, I said impact. Surely you understand that is a completely different question.
KAB

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#119973 Jul 20, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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No. You're suggesting incompetence on the part of the genetic scientists that FOUND a 70K year-old human bottleneck, but FAILED TO NOTICE a much more recent, and severe bottleneck.
Like locating a gnat in the Superdome, but not noticing the elephant on 2nd base-50-yard line.
How was the 70K years determined?

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#119974 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I choose point number 11.
"11. I await your data explaining why the flood myths of China are in no way similar to the global flood myth outside of the fact that all are about floods."
What data do you need to convince you that accounts can change as they are handed down thru time?
So it must also be your contention that the Genesis account which has been "handed down thru time" is inaccurate, just as you portend the Chinese account to be.
KAB

Taiwan

#119975 Jul 20, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Typical. Your response to data is to smokescreen with questions.
Do your own research. It is your job.
I'm doing my research. I'm sharing it one point/step at a time, seeking your concurrence before proceeding.
KAB

Taiwan

#119976 Jul 20, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Asking that question shows that you neither read it nor comprehended it.
Or that I did.

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#119977 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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How was the 70K years determined?
Still trying to get others to do your research for you, eh KAB?

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#119978 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I choose point number 11.
"11. I await your data explaining why the flood myths of China are in no way similar to the global flood myth outside of the fact that all are about floods."
What data do you need to convince you that accounts can change as they are handed down thru time?
I don't want data that explains that accounts can change as they descend through time. Provide the data illustrating why Chinese flood stories differ so greatly as to be entirely unrelated to pre-biblical and biblical accounts of floods.

Not a surprising attempt by you to manipulate and mislead in an effort to build another straw man. You have shown yourself to be no better than that.

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#119979 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You're entitled to your opinion.
So you have nothing then and can't even think of words to fence with. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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#119980 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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How was the 70K years determined?
You claim to have looked at the data. Is that a lie? You make assertions based on your reported review of this data. Are you now claiming this is a blind assertion? Review the data and post your interpretation.

For someone that claims independent thought, only to review and address data, you sure need your hand held like a small, lost child. Handle your own bathroom breaks.

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#119981 Jul 20, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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So it must also be your contention that the Genesis account which has been "handed down thru time" is inaccurate, just as you portend the Chinese account to be.
Excellent point. He can't eat his straw and build a man out of it too.

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#119982 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Or that I did.
No.
LowellGuy

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#119983 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I choose point number 11.
"11. I await your data explaining why the flood myths of China are in no way similar to the global flood myth outside of the fact that all are about floods."
What data do you need to convince you that accounts can change as they are handed down thru time?
Like the stories about Jesus.

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#119984 Jul 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I'm doing my research. I'm sharing it one point/step at a time, seeking your concurrence before proceeding.
How much GD research does it take to reply with "accounts can change as they are handed down thru time?"

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#119985 Jul 20, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Like the stories about Jesus.
They were okay. I liked the Hari Seldon stories better.

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