It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the ...

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

There are 143878 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Mar 15, 2009, titled It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...

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#118637 Jun 26, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Learning is only one reason. Conplex things tend to be composed of less complex subunits each of which may be composed of less complex subunits. Each of the subunits is a design in itself, preceding the more complex, no matter how omniscient the designer.
That is also how evolution produces complexity.

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#118638 Jun 26, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
Chucky, you ARE wrong about "ownership".
Consider this a learning opportunity and move on.
Please.
Learning only stops when one is dead. In this case, English belongs to England, no one can change that, not you. I have my reasons for saying that, the truth!

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#118639 Jun 26, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Yes, it actually does change that fact, because the adjective form of
the word provides the definition you keep referring to, but you're using
the adjective definition for the verb form of the word. You might as
well say that "right" as in the direction is what is meant when someone
is going to right a ship in the water. Same spelling, different parts of
speech with different definitions. Why, other than the fact that you
built an argument around this error, would you treat an adjective and a
verb as though they're the same thing?
Answer this question, if the English did not originate the language, no one would have had the opportunity of the language, not even you or i. So, since it was first spoken there(England) as a language, it therefore belongs to the English. That is my stand!

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#118640 Jun 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Learning only stops when one is dead. In this case, English belongs to England, no one can change that, not you. I have my reasons for saying that, the truth!
Why don't you start your own topix thread about this insufferably boring non-issue, instead of polluting the evolution forum with your nonsense?

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#118641 Jun 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Answer this question, if the English did not originate the language, no one would have had the opportunity of the language, not even you or i. So, since it was first spoken there(England) as a language, it therefore belongs to the English. That is my stand!
Why don't you start your own topix thread about this insufferably boring non-issue, instead of polluting the evolution forum with your nonsense?

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#118642 Jun 26, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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I didn't say "only things that exist can be owned by other things." I
said that "only things that exist can own other things." Did you ever
consider the notion that you could have misunderstood the English
language as spoken by someone fluent in it, and that your half-assed
comprehension, as useful as it may be for day-to-day interactions
finding restaurants or the library, might not be so useful for
discussions wherein the subtleties of the language are brought to bear
in the fleshing out of ideas? No...of course not! You know all the
English anybody would ever need to know!
I never claimed perfection in anything. I am not English, but i stand for the truth, like you, i had access to the language, because of the English.

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#118643 Jun 26, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Origination does not equal ownership. Argument over. This is not an
English language fan club thread, its an evolution thread.
Its obvious to everyone that having been thoroughly obliterated when you
tried to attack evolution with your childish and inept arguments, you
retreated to your happy place of arguing about one of the most silly and
pointless possible subjects for a whole bloody year!
I have explained my reasons for that, that most of you failed to see. If your mind towards that is hard, mine is not, I always stand for the truth. Evolution to date, is a mess. You and i are able to speak the English language, because of the English people, who originally came from England.

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#118644 Jun 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I never claimed perfection in anything. I am not English, but i stand for the truth, like you, i had access to the language, because of the English.
Why don't you start your own topix thread about this insufferably boring non-issue, instead of polluting the evolution forum with your nonsense?

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#118645 Jun 26, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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"Originated in" is synonymous with "belongs to" or "owned by"?
The nations or countries that takes English as first or official language were influenced by? were the speaking English before the influence? these and many other reasons proves my point, English despite its transitions, still belongs to England.

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#118646 Jun 26, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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My ancestors were English, yet I don't belong to England - but let's not
be too hasty about Chucky's logic. The Bible originated as the Torah,
so it belongs to the Semitic tribes and NOT the Christians. Jesus was
Jewish and he spoke Aramaic, so he cannot belong to gentiles.
A simple answer, politically you are an American, but culturally, you are English, except you were not born from those parents.

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#118647 Jun 26, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Previously Refuted
Trash! nothing more than that.

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#118648 Jun 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I have explained my reasons for that, that most of you failed to see. If your mind towards that is hard, mine is not, I always stand for the truth. Evolution to date, is a mess. You and i are able to speak the English language, because of the English people, who originally came from England.
Charles, here is a fact: blue light has a shorter wavelength than rad light.

Here is an opinion: Blue is nicer than red.

See the difference?

You will never convince anyone of your opinion about the English language. Nobody disagrees with the FACT that English originated in England. And since you have failed to define "ownership" in any way different from "originated", you are basically just arguing with yourself. Nobody else even cares.

Evolution, to date, is a theory based on facts and explaining facts. Your opinion, yet again that "its a mess", is meaningless.

What in particular about evolution is a mess, according to you? The fact that it conflicts with Genesis? Perhaps its Genesis that is a mess.

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#118649 Jun 26, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Previously Refuted
Poor you! you lack the boldness or audacity to challenge my statement, too bad!

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#118650 Jun 26, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Why don't you start your own topix thread about this insufferably boring
non-issue, instead of polluting the evolution forum with your nonsense?
Accept the truth despite its bitterness!

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#118651 Jun 26, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Why don't you start your own topix thread about this insufferably boring
non-issue, instead of polluting the evolution forum with your
nonsense?
I don't hide the truth, i speak it, any where and any time. If that is nonsense to, then ignore it, and move on.

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#118652 Jun 26, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Charles, here is a fact: blue light has a shorter wavelength than rad
light.
Here is an opinion: Blue is nicer than red.
See the difference?
You will never convince anyone of your opinion about the English
language. Nobody disagrees with the FACT that English originated in
England. And since you have failed to define "ownership" in any way
different from "originated", you are basically just arguing with
yourself. Nobody else even cares.
Evolution, to date, is a theory based on facts and explaining facts.
Your opinion, yet again that "its a mess", is meaningless.
What in particular about evolution is a mess, according to you? The fact
that it conflicts with Genesis? Perhaps its Genesis that is a mess.
Then you are wrong with your findings. Not every one here agreed to that, instead they said it originated from Germany. I am not interested in convincing any one, but the truth is the truth and i stand for that. Evolution is not a fact. Period!

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#118653 Jun 26, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Charles, here is a fact: blue light has a shorter wavelength than rad
light.
Here is an opinion: Blue is nicer than red.
See the difference?
You will never convince anyone of your opinion about the English
language. Nobody disagrees with the FACT that English originated in
England. And since you have failed to define "ownership" in any way
different from "originated", you are basically just arguing with
yourself. Nobody else even cares.
Evolution, to date, is a theory based on facts and explaining facts.
Your opinion, yet again that "its a mess", is meaningless.
What in particular about evolution is a mess, according to you? The fact
that it conflicts with Genesis? Perhaps its Genesis that is a mess.
Genesis is not a mess unlike your evolution trash. Nothing can actually evolve on their own, they must pass through creation process first. One evidence of Genesis.

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#118654 Jun 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Accept the truth despite its bitterness!
I have no bitterness in the subject of the English language.

This is a forum about evolution. It seems you cannot offer anything more articulate than claiming "its a mess", which probably more reflects your own lack of understanding.

So what is a mess about evolution? The fact that scientists have discovered something about us that is upsetting to people who want to believe in the myths of Genesis?

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#118655 Jun 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Genesis is not a mess unlike your evolution trash. Nothing can actually evolve on their own, they must pass through creation process first. One evidence of Genesis.
Once again, you have offered mere opinion, asserted without a shred of reason or evidence to back it up. Why can't things evolve on their own, according to you?

We can show you the exact process by which things can actually evolve on their own. We can show you the record of change in life over earth's history that this process explains. This is the difference between the mere opinion you assert and the science of evolution.

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#118656 Jun 26, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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I have no bitterness in the subject of the English language.
This is a forum about evolution. It seems you cannot offer anything more
articulate than claiming "its a mess", which probably more reflects
your own lack of understanding.
So what is a mess about evolution? The fact that scientists have
discovered something about us that is upsetting to people who want to
believe in the myths of Genesis?
Genesis is not a myth. Like i said, nothing can sprang up on their own without a maker or creator, one sure reason why evolution remains a mess. and again, English belongs to the English, does that sounds negative to you?

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