It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...
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May 6, 2013
 
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If Dorchester is a named section of Boston, then you have conquered a part of Boston.
But, you agree that I would not have conquered Boston. Thank you for your tacit, if reluctant, agreement. Why can't you just say what you mean? Be direct and honest sometime.

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May 6, 2013
 
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If Dorchester is a named section of Boston, then you have conquered a part of Boston.

Is that what the prophecy states?

I did not know God did partial credit.

Maybe God didn't really create the heavens and earth but really just did a 100 piece jig-saw puzzle and thought that was close enough.
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May 6, 2013
 
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LOL. You can't prove it was unbroken.
Does the bible say it was unbroken?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents/
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But, you agree that I would not have conquered Boston. Thank you for your tacit, if reluctant, agreement. Why can't you just say what you mean? Be direct and honest sometime.
No reluctance. I've never stated that Nebuchadnezzar defeated all of Tyre.
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Is that what the prophecy states?
I did not know God did partial credit.
Maybe God didn't really create the heavens and earth but really just did a 100 piece jig-saw puzzle and thought that was close enough.
Yes, the prophecy allows that result.

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May 6, 2013
 
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Is that a source document?

I checked the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and it does not list the presidents.

Surly George Washington would know who the presidents are. Perhaps you can show me where he refers to them in his collected writings.

http://etext.virginia.edu/washington/fitzpatr...

Why is that, do you think?

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May 6, 2013
 
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No reluctance. I've never stated that Nebuchadnezzar defeated all of Tyre.

So you disagree with the Bible.

Interesting.

Can I report this to your cult figureheads?

A 'Yes' to ANY of the following completely and totally falsifies the "prophecy"

Does the mainland city still exist?
Does the island city still exist?
Do we know where it was?
Did Nebby take the wealth of Tyre?

Here, try this.....:
http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/992t...

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May 6, 2013
 
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Yes, the prophecy allows that result.

This is a lie. Are you this desperate?(rhetorical question, obviously)

We have refuted this, blow by painful blow, over and over again.

http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/992t...

Bottom line, one failure and the prophecy fails. You are grasping at straws to defend ANY of it.

Ezekiel even ADMITS his prophecy failed
Ezek. 29:18

18 “Son of man, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon made his army labor [a]hard against Tyre; every head was made bald and every shoulder was rubbed bare. But he and his army had no wages from Tyre for the labor that he had [b]performed against it.”
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"BUT HE AND HIS ARMY HAD NOT WAGES FROM TYRE FOR THE LABOR THAT HE HAD PREFORMED AGAINST IT."

In other words Nebby got NOTHING!
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Is that a source document?
I checked the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and it does not list the presidents.
Surly George Washington would know who the presidents are. Perhaps you can show me where he refers to them in his collected writings.
http://etext.virginia.edu/washington/fitzpatr...
Why is that, do you think?
Washingon's been dead for the terms of almost all the Presidents.
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May 6, 2013
 
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So you disagree with the Bible.
Interesting.
Can I report this to your cult figureheads?
A 'Yes' to ANY of the following completely and totally falsifies the "prophecy"
Does the mainland city still exist?
Does the island city still exist?
Do we know where it was?
Did Nebby take the wealth of Tyre?
Here, try this.....:
http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/992t...
Even the Bible states that Nebby didn't take the wealth of Tyre.
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Dogen wrote:
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This is a lie. Are you this desperate?(rhetorical question, obviously)
We have refuted this, blow by painful blow, over and over again.
http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/992t...
Bottom line, one failure and the prophecy fails. You are grasping at straws to defend ANY of it.
Ezekiel even ADMITS his prophecy failed
Ezek. 29:18
18 “Son of man, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon made his army labor [a]hard against Tyre; every head was made bald and every shoulder was rubbed bare. But he and his army had no wages from Tyre for the labor that he had [b]performed against it.”
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"BUT HE AND HIS ARMY HAD NOT WAGES FROM TYRE FOR THE LABOR THAT HE HAD PREFORMED AGAINST IT."
In other words Nebby got NOTHING!
Thanks for the additional verse quote reinforcing the proper understanding of the prophecy (i.e., Nebuchadnezzar did not capture the island city, which is where the riches had been taken during the siege).

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Washingon's been dead for the terms of almost all the Presidents.

Really? So, since I was only using an analogy of one of your arguments, what shall we say is wrong with your thinking?

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Even the Bible states that Nebby didn't take the wealth of Tyre.

Strange, because the prophecy says he would (Ezek 26:12).

I wonder why that is, do you think?

"And they shall make a spoil of thy riches, and make a prey of thy merchandise: and they shall break down thy walls, and..."

But maybe if we put this through the psycho warp mindfuck of a cult mind it will actually mean just the opposite.

Remember: I think you are a deluded moron. Not doing much to help your case here.




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KAB wrote:
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Thanks for the additional verse quote reinforcing the proper understanding of the prophecy (i.e., Nebuchadnezzar did not capture the island city, which is where the riches had been taken during the siege).

Thanks for reinforcing the refutation of the prophecy.

http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/992t...
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Really? So, since I was only using an analogy of one of your arguments, what shall we say is wrong with your thinking?
If your assertion was true, all you had to do was quote me, but since it's not, you can't.
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May 6, 2013
 
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Strange, because the prophecy says he would (Ezek 26:12).
I wonder why that is, do you think?
"And they shall make a spoil of thy riches, and make a prey of thy merchandise: and they shall break down thy walls, and..."
But maybe if we put this through the psycho warp mindfuck of a cult mind it will actually mean just the opposite.
Remember: I think you are a deluded moron. Not doing much to help your case here.
Thanks for the quote stating "they" would spoil the riches. Don't forget the "many nations" factor. It was a group effort. As the Bible also states, Nebuchadnezzar didn't get the spoil.

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May 6, 2013
 
KAB wrote:
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Thanks for the quote stating "they" would spoil the riches. Don't forget the "many nations" factor. It was a group effort. As the Bible also states, Nebuchadnezzar didn't get the spoil.
And as we have pointed out many times, Nebby was the head of many nations.

Since Tyre was attacked on a regular basis to claim that the prophecy extends for over 1,000 years it would fail on the basis that it is no longer a "prophesy" but a certainty. The only "many nations" that makes any logical sense is that of Nebby being the head of many nations.

You could claim "many nations" over a long period of time if Tyre had never been attacked before. That is definitely not the case.

Is "You will see a red car" a valid Biblical prophesy? Why am I not a prophet of Biblical magnitude?

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KAB wrote:
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Thanks for the quote stating "they" would spoil the riches. Don't forget the "many nations" factor. It was a group effort. As the Bible also states, Nebuchadnezzar didn't get the spoil.
Didn't Neeeby miss out on the Egyptian prophecy also??

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Didn't Neeeby miss out on the Egyptian prophecy also??
Of course.

I will let KAB explain how he might not have on his own.

I wouldn't want to put words into his mouth and I would probably break down laughing if I tried.

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May 6, 2013
 
KAB wrote:
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You apparently FAIL to recognize the prophecy can't mean ANYTHING someone wants. It contains some very specific requirements which not everything which occurs include. At the same time, as written, it does allow for multiple possibilities. That's a harsh reality of language. Get use to disappointment as you are shown legitimate ways prophecies are fulfilled.
Funny how not a single verified prophecy that is too specific to weasel your way through has ever been proven.

In the case of Tyre, the only way to falsify it according to your criteria would be if Tyre had NEVER been invaded or overrun by anyone ever. Name a single city in the civilised world that has not been overrun in some war at least once - you know damned well that 99% of them have been. Even then, you could claim it just has not happened YET.

See? Its smoke and mirrors, no better than a Sunday paper astrology page. Some people swear by them, too.

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