It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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KAB

Oxford, NC

#114764 May 3, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Have you forgotten them already?
As I recall, they weren't present.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#114765 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Is that what you want considered, the region that someone called Canada and beginning with with the time when they first did that?

I just want you to acknowledge the facts for once.

For example Tyre, at the time of Nebby, was an island city.

The facts have never been your friend.

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#114766 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I have simply provided what a record states. I have made no assertions beyond that. What have you done?

You have made no assertions? Are you kidding? You have done nothing but make assertions.

I have demonstrated a failed prophecy.

You have provided no contrary data.

As noted before, this constitutes a loss on your part.
LowellGuy

Astoria, NY

#114767 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Can mutually exclusive things can't happen simultaneously?
You have not demonstrated that Canada's conquest of America and the currently accepted history of America and Canada are mutually exclusive. Where is your evidence that Canada never conquered America? If you have it, present it. Your evidence is not in the form of a question. There, I just gave you some help in identifying the evidence. Now, go find it, then present it.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#114768 May 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Zeke's prophesy had a date.
The victory that you linked was one before he became king. It is well known. Your source says it was before he was king. You are just to dense to realize that.
The blinders are upon you. You make the assumption that EVERYTHING in the Bible is true and try to force the data to agree with that. I look and see what the data actually says. And the data says that the Bible fails. Time after time. Book after book.
To the extent possible I test everything in the Bible to determine how it could possibly be true. I notice that's not the approach you claim to use. You seem to settle on a possible meaning for something and thereafter make no allowance for other possible meanings.

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#114769 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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According to the prophecy, whose settlements were on the mainland?

Another lying dodge.

Again, here is your failure:


Dogen wrote:
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Sorry, but you are wrong as always.
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KAB wrote:
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I'm relieved that the prophecy doesn't state that Nebby conquered the island of Tyre.
Whereas Tyre was THE island and whereas it is described as an island it would be redundant of the prophecy to thus describe it.
Ezekiel 26:5 - Out in the sea...
Ezekiel 26:6 - and her settlements on the mainland
Ezekiel 26:8 - He will ravage your settlements on the mainland
Ezekiel 26:17 -“‘How you are destroyed, city of renown,
peopled by men of the sea!
Not a reference to the minor villages on the shore, to be certain.
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It goes on to say :he will set up siege works against you, build a ramp up to your walls", of course these refer to the city on the island, not the mainland which was simply a string of villages.
Ezekiel 26:10 ...when he enters your gates as men enter a city whose walls have been broken through.
Never happened. The city gates were around the city..... on the island.
Ezekiel 26:12 They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea.
The wealth of Tyre was behind the walls. The political an religious leaders were behind the walls. And since none of this, as outlined above, actually occurred.....
Ezekiel 26:14 -....You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.
In flagrante delicto it was not tore down (at that time) and WAS rebuilt.
Grand imperial prophetic failure.
Nearly a bad as the JW failures.
Ezekiel 26:19 - when I bring the ocean depths over you and its vast waters cover you,
Also never happened.
And the Coup de grâce:
Ezekiel 26:21 You will be sought, but you will never again be found"
Epic and complete failure.
The question you are too cowardly to answer is that if a prophecy is partially wrong, then isn't it ALL wrong?
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Keep running. Keep distracting. I will keep reminding.
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#114770 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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That is now pending clarification of and agreement on what is meant by Canada.

Until then we can safely assume that Canada conquered America.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#114771 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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As I recall, they weren't present.

Your memory is a sieve.

Till proven otherwise I will simply assume you state this due to your lying compulsion.

Who would you have to have running your life to have a compulsion to lie?

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Since: Nov 07

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#114772 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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To the extent possible I test everything in the Bible to determine how it could possibly be true. I notice that's not the approach you claim to use. You seem to settle on a possible meaning for something and thereafter make no allowance for other possible meanings.

Projection driven by your continued failures and your compulsive lying.


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#114773 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You didn't continue to the non-time-stamped statement that Nebby conquered Egypt. Why is that do you think?

If I cannot tell if your posts were written by you or the random sentence generator then why should I reply.

"How does the modern direction index the secretary?"
KAB

Oxford, NC

#114774 May 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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It has happened. You still have nothing that backs up your claim that Nebby might have won.
It is always incumbent upon the person making the positive statement, in this case you, to provide evidence for his or her claim. If you cannot find any evidence then the status quo stands. And the status quo says that Nebby lost.
Berossus states Nebby won. Perhaps you could quote his non-time-stamped statement to that effect. Perhaps you could even surround it with the context, as I have done, so we could be directly reminded and see for ourselves that there's no linguistic requirement that the "conquered Egypt" statement must apply to the time when Nebby's father was alive. Maybe you could even get someone adept with the English language to give you an objective language-mechanics-only assessment.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#114775 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Berossus states Nebby won. Perhaps you could quote his non-time-stamped statement to that effect. Perhaps you could even surround it with the context, as I have done, so we could be directly reminded and see for ourselves that there's no linguistic requirement that the "conquered Egypt" statement must apply to the time when Nebby's father was alive. Maybe you could even get someone adept with the English language to give you an objective language-mechanics-only assessment.
Since Nebby was sent out to fight NechoII by his father there is a time stamp that puts it many years before the prophesy.

Nebby's dad was dead and buried for 20 years when Zeke made his Tyre prophesy, The Egyptian one he made after the Tyre siege was over, so that was more than thirty years AFTER his victory over Necho II.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#114776 May 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>It doesn't.
Again everyone except for maybe a tard or two knows that those verses point to Tyre being an island.
Your excursion into the Stupid will not save you.
Instead of stating, "It doesn't.", you could have just provided the quote, allowing all to draw their own conclusion, but that wouldn't have worked to your advantage, would it? Much easier to stick with a naked assertion and not try to use the data directly to demonstrate how the assertion is confirmed, especially if it isn't!

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#114777 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Instead of stating, "It doesn't.", you could have just provided the quote, allowing all to draw their own conclusion, but that wouldn't have worked to your advantage, would it? Much easier to stick with a naked assertion and not try to use the data directly to demonstrate how the assertion is confirmed, especially if it isn't!
The quotes have been given to you several times already. Would you be convinced if they were given to you once again.

You are being dishonest again.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#114778 May 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What on Earth are you rambling about now. There was on attack on Egypt mentioned in your link. It was before the Tyre prophecy by 20 years.
How dense are you tonight KAB?
Why do you refuse to acknowledge the simple statement that Nebby conquered Egypt, but rather seem totally entranced and distracted by another passage which is not being disputed?
KAB

Oxford, NC

#114779 May 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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The island Tyre's settlements were on the mainland. That is why they were referred to that way.
Do you have to give up ALL capabilities to think logically when you become a creatard? Is that one of the requirements?
Most questions I ask are not because I don't know the answer. It's important that individuals draw their own conclusions. For example, we have just reached agreement that the mainland settlements were viewed and referred to as part of Tyre's domain, belonging to Tyre. Destroying them was, in that respect, destroying part of Tyre.
Lincoln

United States

#114780 May 4, 2013
Teaching Intelligent Design is fun way to disturb "disturbed" atheists.
LOL

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#114781 May 4, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Most questions I ask are not because I don't know the answer. It's important that individuals draw their own conclusions. For example, we have just reached agreement that the mainland settlements were viewed and referred to as part of Tyre's domain, belonging to Tyre. Destroying them was, in that respect, destroying part of Tyre.
Part of Tyre's domain, but not the Tyre of the prophesy. Reread it. I am not going to list the pertinent verses again. Zeke called the island Tyre and the land based cities its settlements. He predicted that Nebby would be riding his horses through Tyre. He mentioned the wall, Tyre had a wall, the settlements didn't.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#114782 May 4, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Teaching Intelligent Design is fun way to disturb "disturbed" atheists.
LOL
IDiots are as funny as creatards. Of course IDiots have a cow when it is pointed out to them that IDiocy also believe in common descent. In other words, not only are you related to apes, you are also descended from a "worm".
KAB

Oxford, NC

#114783 May 4, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>And yet Tyre still stands.
And Nebby never conquered Egypt.
Berossus directly states that Nebby did conquer Egypt.

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