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It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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#114625 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Do you agree then that, based on historical records, Canada never conquered America?

Do you agree then that, based on historical records, the flood never happened?

The "historical records" knife doth cut bidirectionally.

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#114626 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Are all historical records accurate?

In as much as the Bible purports to be a historical records the answer is no.


KAB

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#114627 Apr 30, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Do you suppose we will provide a historical record to you than what we have already shown?
History records that the
http://www.middleeast.com/tyre.htm
http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/Th...
http://www.livius.org/tt-tz/tyre/tyre_history...
The subject is Nebby's defeat of Egypt.
KAB

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#114628 Apr 30, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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If they are proven reliable.
Unlike yourself we have always accepted historical records to the extent they exist and are reliable.
Revisionist history is your bag.
Would you have accepted the Bible's record of Sargon as correct when it was the only such available?

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#114629 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Do you agree then that, based on historical records, Canada never conquered America?

Can we count South Park movies?

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#114630 Apr 30, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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That was Sauron. Sargon was killed by Superman when he returned from Krypton's solar system.

Sargon was never killed. He and Thalassa departed into oblivion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_Tomorr...
KAB

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#114631 Apr 30, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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He pops in now and again. I am don't remember the last time I saw him in this forum, however.
As I stated, I hope you'll follow his lead, or change to a data-intensive and reliably correct contributor.

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#114632 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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The subject is Nebby's defeat of Egypt.
Yes, and you failed to show that it happened. In other words, you showed that the prophesy failed by your failure.

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#114633 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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As I stated, I hope you'll follow his lead, or change to a data-intensive and reliably correct contributor.

How can I change to what I am?

Are you projecting again?

I think you are getting bitter.
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#114634 Apr 30, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Wrong again. I cannot give a record of what did not happen. You wil make the foolish claim that since there is no record of him defeating Egypt he could have defeated Egypt. This is the purest of nonsense. If he had defeated Egypt he would have kept records of it. He didn't. Egypt would have records of it, they don't. Neighboring countries would have records of it. They don't. We know that Nebby attacked Egypt after he went after Tyre. We also know that attack did not pan out.
Now he did defeat the Egyptian army in the field in around 605 BC but that was long before Zeke's prophecy. That confuses some people. This article has a time line of Nebby. Once again he did not defeat Egypt:
http://www.sanityquestpublishing.com/essays/B...
And remember the rules of debate say that if someone wants to make a positive claim it is up to him to provide evidence for that claim. Or as the great Hitch said, and I am paraphrasing here: "Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence". Your claim that the prophecy was fulfilled is dismissed.
Is this what you've been eagerly awaiting?

http://www.livius.org/be-bm/berossus/berossus...
KAB

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#114635 Apr 30, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Another detour into Stupid brought to you by KAB.
I didn't raise the specter of Canada conquering America. I agree it was stupid.
KAB

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#114636 Apr 30, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Do you agree then that, based on historical records, the flood never happened?
The "historical records" knife doth cut bidirectionally.
Historical records all over the world document the flood, not the least of these is the Bible.

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#114637 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Is this what you've been eagerly awaiting?
http://www.livius.org/be-bm/berossus/berossus...
Nope, check your dates. Nebby's one victory over Egypt was in around 605 BCE, before the prophesy. It was a battle in the field.

Remember with BCE dates the higher number was longer ago, or earlier. The war with Tyre started around 586 BCE. After the victory in the field. Much later. Zeke predicted that Nebby would defeat Egypt too. He never did.

In other words, wrong, try again.

P.S. You should read all of your articles, even that one at the bottom noted that Nebby never defeated the country of Egypt. There is a big difference between defeating an army of a country in the field of battle and defeating a whole country.

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#114638 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Historical records all over the world document the flood, not the least of these is the Bible.
No, they don't.

There are flood myths with almost every ancient society that is along some sort of major water way. They tend to be missing from ancient societies that were did not have such an advantage. Of course most ancient societies were along some sort of major water way so most ancient society had flood myths. Myths are not "historical records".

In fact there is not one historical record of the flood.
KAB

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#114639 Apr 30, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Nope, check your dates. Nebby's one victory over Egypt was in around 605 BCE, before the prophesy. It was a battle in the field.
Remember with BCE dates the higher number was longer ago, or earlier. The war with Tyre started around 586 BCE. After the victory in the field. Much later. Zeke predicted that Nebby would defeat Egypt too. He never did.
In other words, wrong, try again.
P.S. You should read all of your articles, even that one at the bottom noted that Nebby never defeated the country of Egypt. There is a big difference between defeating an army of a country in the field of battle and defeating a whole country.
Why do you accept dataless notes (i.e., someone's opinion?) rather than the record itself?
KAB

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#114640 Apr 30, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No, they don't.
There are flood myths with almost every ancient society that is along some sort of major water way. They tend to be missing from ancient societies that were did not have such an advantage. Of course most ancient societies were along some sort of major water way so most ancient society had flood myths. Myths are not "historical records".
In fact there is not one historical record of the flood.
You're entitled to your opinion.

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#114641 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I didn't raise the specter of Canada conquering America. I agree it was stupid.

You are confused.

Canada conquering American is satire or sarcasm.

Your beliefs are stupid (i.e. not based upon the objective data).

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#114642 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Historical records all over the world document the flood, not the least of these is the Bible.

This is false.

There are flood mythologies from all over the world.

They are from different peoples at different times.

There is no account of a global flood by civilizations that were present one year before, during the year of the flood and still present one year later.

Where is the flood account from Egypt who had a thriving empire at that time (before, after and during)?

So, at best you are in error. More likely you are simply lying again which is a compulsion of yours. Like an addict you lie even when you have no reason to do so.

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#114643 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Why do you accept dataless notes (i.e., someone's opinion?) rather than the record itself?

The dates are based on history. They are based on the record.

the record itself gives no dates. It is date-a-less source.

Your suggesting otherwise is a lie.

You just can't stop.


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#114644 Apr 30, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You're entitled to your opinion.

His opinion is based on history.

Your opinion is based on mythology.

Actually on a misunderstanding of the nature of the mythology, but that is an egg to crack another day.

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