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It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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#114527 Apr 29, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Oh, I see now.
It HAS been rebuilt, but KAB is arguing that it hasn't.
That's interesting, but I like the other thread better.
This Via Dolorosa guy is almost as much fun as Charles Idema.
Oy.
Watch it, you'll get a headache.
:-D

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#114528 Apr 29, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
"I don't know where it started, but there was reference to the prophecy that Tyre would be utterly destroyed.
And some discussion of the fact that it wasn't."
Thank you Macumazahn, that's what I wanted to know.
Was there a time limit on that?
If there wasn't a time limit, we can't disprove it.
There is an ancient manuscript that said that God created a huge sea monster, with shiny skin, call the Leviathan.
The manuscript says that someday, God will destroy that sea monster and stretch its skin as a canopy over the city of Jerusalem.
The manuscript didn't say when, so we can't be absolutely sure that it won't happen someday.
You're welcome.

Can you provide a link or reference to that manuscript? I don'y think I'd heard that one.

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#114529 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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It appears the island city of Tyre has never been rebuilt,
So long as you keep your head buried in the sand, it will appear that way.
KAB wrote:
a linguistically and contextually legitimate understanding of what the prophecy states.
Blah, blah, blah.
KAB wrote:
I've enjoyed the game. I suspect we'll play again sometime.
Thanks for admitting to your defeat.

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#114530 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Would peninsula be on the list of possibilities?
It wasn't a peninsula then, Einstein.

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#114531 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I have never declared that it means never being totally rebuilt.
Uh-huh.
KAB wrote:
If you were adept with the language, you could have discerned what the possibilities are yourself.
And if you were adept with honesty?

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#114532 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Nebuchadnezzar involved in defeat of Tyre...
WHAT??? Nebuchadnezzar was NOT involved in the defeat of Tyre! It wasn't defeated until some 250 years after Nebby went for his dirt nap. This is like saying Columbus was involved in landing on the moon. You are one uber-loon.

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#114533 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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No. It appears that the significant island city which was there has never been rebuilt, and since the island no longer exists, never will be rebuilt. Prophecy fulfilled.
Bullshit.

Cute that you now add the word 'significant'. What a fraud you are.

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#114534 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Tell the class the meaning of "at most one".

Your fear of actually addressing anything stands out in these little quips.

Duck here. Dodge there. Mostly ignore.

It is all fear based.

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#114535 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Did I state that indoor rain is impossible?


Dogen wrote:
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Your question is non-coherent. An intelligent person would be expected to formulate an intelligent question.
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Opposite, actually. You seem to have the odd idea that if you keep typing words then you have not lost. It really does not work that way.
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That would be a logical thing to do. However, you are quibbling over one tiny point as you are unable to compete on the plethora of other points that have been refuted.
But a prophecy should be 100% correct, correct?
I mean if a bit here and a bit there are correct but the bulk if it is disproved then that does not count. Right?
I do not expect a cogent answer to the above questions. You can't, so you won't. As per typical.
1. The "Prophecy" was made AFTER the city was seized by Nebby.
2. Lest go verse by verse
26:1 - When the prophecy was given. Note that it is AFTER the actual attack by Nebbys troops.
26:2 - Why
27:3 - God is ticked
27:4 - Failed. Never happened.
27:5 - Failed. Island still exists.
27:6 - Check ..... actually happened.
26:7 Check.... actually happened.
26:8 Check
26:9 Failed. He never destroyed the walls to the city nor the towers of the city. The little village towns were sacked, but these have been described as "suburbs". These were lower class workers. They provided food and supplies to the gentry that lived in the city.
26:10 Failed. Nebby failed to enter the city abet not without trying. Tyre agreed to pay tribute and probably only did that because their supplies were cut off.
26:11 Probably failed. This again seems to be referring to the City, not the surrounding village.
26:12 Epic Fail. The wealth, the walls, the fine houses were all on in the island city where Nebby never entered.
26:13 Cannot be determined. Maybe they had to pay the harps as part of the tribute. Most likely another failure.
26:14 Grand Imperial Pooh Bah of failures.
26:15 - 26:18 Also seems clear enough who is being talked about,... again; "men of the sea"
26:19 Complete, utter and total failure. Tyre is still above water. In fact it is larger now than in Phonetician times.
26:20 Failed.
26:21 Epic failure. We know where it is and it is still inhabited.
I hope this clears things up.
If one part fails then the whole prophecy fails,.... right?

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#114536 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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It's also not the definition I'm using. I've never thought for a moment that rebuilding meant rebuilding the destroyed buildings.

Moving the goal posts.

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#114537 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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The Guy, since he's always acting as if he's a good judge of what others' positions are, yet is so incompetent at it.

Again, I spot the projection.

You try to cover your lies by only implying things and never having the guts to spell it out. That does not make you any less of a liar.

But you are incompetent at it and always give your game away.


What is your goal in being here?

Aren't you supposed to be bringing people into your cult? Isn't that the raison d'ĂȘtre ("reason for existence.") for low level cult members?

Have you read any of the books that WatchTower officials use to keep the proles in line? I bet you would recognize a lot in their books on handling the sales force.

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#114538 Apr 29, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Moving the goal posts.
Watch, next he'll say "ORIGINAL destroyed buildings".

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#114539 Apr 29, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Again, I spot the projection.
You try to cover your lies by only implying things and never having the guts to spell it out. That does not make you any less of a liar.
But you are incompetent at it and always give your game away.
What is your goal in being here?
Aren't you supposed to be bringing people into your cult? Isn't that the raison d'ĂȘtre ("reason for existence.") for low level cult members?
Have you read any of the books that WatchTower officials use to keep the proles in line? I bet you would recognize a lot in their books on handling the sales force.
The word "proles" stopped him like a brick wall.
If he even got that far.

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#114540 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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No. It appears that the significant island city which was there has never been rebuilt, and since the island no longer exists, never will be rebuilt. Prophecy fulfilled.

No, it has been rebuilt. And the prophecy does not state that it will only be 90% rebuilt. It says NEVER be rebuilt.

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#114541 Apr 29, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You've certainly proven stupid can persist. The island no longer exists, thus no island city. It's that simple, except for the persistently stupid.

You god certainly works in a piecemeal fashion.
I would think that if there is anyone who is capable of being specific it would be god. Right?

Yet you have to shield your god behind thinly veiled verbiage.

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#114542 Apr 29, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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You god certainly works in a piecemeal fashion.
I would think that if there is anyone who is capable of being specific it would be god. Right?
Yet you have to shield your god behind thinly veiled verbiage.
"Eschew the obfuscation."

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#114543 Apr 29, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Watch, next he'll say "ORIGINAL destroyed buildings".
Using the original bricks and stone in the exact original order.

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#114544 Apr 29, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Using the original bricks and stone in the exact original order.
Probably.

London Bridge, anyone? It's in Lake Havasu City now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_ (Lake_Havasu_City)

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#114545 Apr 29, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>The word "proles" stopped him like a brick wall.
If he even got that far.

Big IF. Huge.

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#114546 Apr 29, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Big IF. Huge.
I know.

And therein lies the problem.

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