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It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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““You must not lose faith ”

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#111362 Feb 28, 2013
And i totally forgot who was interested in the stone carved birds found in North America.
It was in a discussion Evo. v. crea. on quartz with Subduction Zone and i think Fossil Bob involved.
Well they resurface in this paper too.

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#111363 Feb 28, 2013
The 5th of June is dead duck day, by the way.

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#111364 Feb 28, 2013
Apropos Melanesians and blond hair, i finally found a friend:

T. Kosmatka • a year ago
Finally.

Now the obvious question: what is the genotype at rs13289810 for our friends the Denisovans?
KAB

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#111365 Feb 28, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Hebrew word: &#1489;&#1512;&#14 89;&#1493;&#1512;
Xlit: bar-bur
Trans: FOWL
I looked at 10 different references. All say bird.
A literal translation could be grain eating bird.
Of course that would leave out bats (which eat insects) and flying insects.
Where did you get your Hebrew word? You didn't cite anything. It doesn't appear to be in the verses cited from Leviticus 11.
KAB

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#111366 Feb 28, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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SNAFU FUBAR LOL
Lack of even one proof of unreliability duly noted.
KAB

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#111367 Feb 28, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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So why do you stick with a belief system that "drop like flies"?
Every denomination believes it is the most "completely aligned with the reliable Bible". But they are all wrong.
Yours is better than most in some ways and worse than most in a lot of ways.
In the end it is an epic fail and no one has done more to convince me of their failure than yourself.
Thanks for that.
As long as you only have your assertions and demonstrably ineffective "data", I'm comfortable with that and whatever you conclude. You're always entitled to your opinions.

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#111368 Feb 28, 2013
Apropos Bat:
quote from Kayser study on Polynesian origins:
The Y-STR haplotype diversity associated with DYS385tri/O-M122 was highest in Tuvalu, suggesting that Tuvalu is the likely place of origin (table 1). In addition, a median-joining network of the 10 Y-STR haplotypes observed in the 56 individuals carrying this marker provides evidence for a recent expansion with a widespread most frequent haplotype (occurring in 7 of 8 Polynesian populations with an overall frequency of 50%) and a star-like structure (Figure S2, Supplementary Material online). This Y-STR haplotype (including the 3 DYS385 alleles) was also frequent (20%) in an independent sample of Pacific Islanders, although Y-SNP data were not reported (Shepherd et al. 2004). The age of this lineage is estimated to be 3,700 years (95% credible interval 2,100–6,500 years based on the BATWING analysis; dates based on other methods are given in Table S3, Supplementary Material online). Thus, the DYS385 triplication associated with haplogroup O-M122 provides clear evidence not only for a Polynesian founder effect but also for a recent west-to-east expansion within Polynesia.

end quote.
KAB

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#111369 Feb 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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fowl (foul)
n. pl. fowl or fowls
1. Any of various birds of the order Galliformes, especially the common, widely domesticated chicken (Gallus gallus).
2.
a. A bird, such as the duck, goose, turkey, or pheasant, that is used as food or hunted as game.
b. The flesh of such birds used as food.
3. A bird of any kind.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fowl
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fowl
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engl...
Fowl means bird, they are not birds. The bible is wrong.
Fowl is not the original Hebrew word. Perhaps you are unaware that the Bible was not originally in English.

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#111370 Feb 28, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Lack of even one proof of unreliability duly noted.
Shrug. So you keep saying despite voluminous proof. Belief doesn't create reality. Faith isn't fact. Fantasy isn't evidence. NWT is not reliable. To a point it's interesting to reflect on your droll delusions - beyond that point it's merely automaton repetition and it becomes ever more clear that you've nothing left to contribute -
and so the melody skipskipskips and becomes the refrain....

"You should never argue with a crazy man ma ma man;
You oughtta know by now."

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#111371 Mar 1, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Where did you get your Hebrew word? You didn't cite anything. It doesn't appear to be in the verses cited from Leviticus 11.

Leviticus 11? For definition of kind we go back to Genesis. Where did you learn the bible? From a cult religious track?

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#111372 Mar 1, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Lack of even one proof of unreliability duly noted.

You already admitted that the bible has errors. Your attempt to rationalize away from that is to preserve your own delusions.

Do you really think you are here for OUR benefit? What a lark!

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#111373 Mar 1, 2013
KAB wrote:
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As long as you only have your assertions and demonstrably ineffective "data", I'm comfortable with that and whatever you conclude. You're always entitled to your opinions.

You don't look at data if it does not support your confirmation bias.

Anyone who has a team of amateurs rewrite the bible to conform to their dogma is clearly not interested in the truth.

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#111374 Mar 1, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Fowl is not the original Hebrew word. Perhaps you are unaware that the Bible was not originally in English.

Perhaps you are unaware that the definition of Fowl is not found in Leviticus 111.

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#111375 Mar 1, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Shrug. So you keep saying despite voluminous proof. Belief doesn't create reality. Faith isn't fact. Fantasy isn't evidence. NWT is not reliable. To a point it's interesting to reflect on your droll delusions - beyond that point it's merely automaton repetition and it becomes ever more clear that you've nothing left to contribute -
and so the melody skipskipskips and becomes the refrain....
"You should never argue with a crazy man ma ma man;
You oughtta know by now."


I am going to keep posting
http://www.forananswer.org/Top_JW/Scholars%20...

To him.

It proves what liars the JWs are and how bad their "bible" translation is.
KAB

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#111376 Mar 1, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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IT was only what you think that started this.
This was started by Chrome's bold dataless declaration that Da Flud did not contribute to Barringer's crater.
KAB

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#111377 Mar 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you are calling your "designer" either malicious or incompetent. Which is it?
Neither, oh worshipper of the god of false dichotomies. BTW, are you and the Guy of the same denomination?
KAB

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#111378 Mar 1, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Even the Satanic Bible would beat the NWT.
Actually, for the OT I will take the Orthodox Jewish Bible and for the NT I would take the NASB. For cross reference I would like to keep Wycliffe, Youngs, Geneva, Darby and NJB versions around.
Versions I would like to flush down a toilet include good news, the message, new life, the voice (and the NWT of course).
I might keep a KJV (more correctly a PJV) around because it is fun to read!
If your favorites were challenged on a point, would you check against the Sinaitic, Alexandrine, Vaticanus, and the Dead Sea Scrolls for resolution?

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#111379 Mar 1, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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I am going to keep posting
http://www.forananswer.org/Top_JW/Scholars%20...
To him.
It proves what liars the JWs are and how bad their "bible" translation is.
It's gone from the Black Knight, to the Parrot Sketch to the Cheese Shop to the Argument Clinic with a sideline of "Who's on First."

The Bible is a demonstrably reliable source?! It's nothing but selected history and legends of the Semitic tribes heavily overlaid with mysticism. Debating the translation is like debating with a stray cat whether a ping pong ball or a phillips screwdriver is better for hammering a pair of socks when you're frying polystyrene in a sieve of ice water - it's faulty at the onset and no part of it works.

When a zealot not only aspires to ignorance, but is proud of their progress, what better proof does anyone need of their dishonesty?

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#111380 Mar 1, 2013
KAB wrote:
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This was started by Chrome's bold dataless declaration that Da Flud did not contribute to Barringer's crater.
Did someone hear a "meow?"
KAB

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#111381 Mar 1, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Wishful thinking is not a scientific explanation nor does it make verifiable predictions.
Design is a very focused real-world process, just as organisms changing thru time is a real process, critical to ToE.

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