It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...

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KAB

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#111259 Feb 27, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Seems Job thought the earth was flat...possibly a circle, but not a sphere.
"…take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it (Job 38:12-13)"
Try substituting "extremities" for "edges". See if that takes care of the flatness.

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#111260 Feb 27, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You presented something which presumably could not be falsified. I falsified it.

You misspoke. I am sure you meant that you tried to falsify it but failed.

those typos can sneak up on you.

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#111261 Feb 27, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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There is roughly 200 feet of lake sediment in Barringer Crater. What is your point, KAB?

I don't think he has one.
KAB

United States

#111262 Feb 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You can't prove leprechauns do not exist, therefore you must believe in leprechauns.
As I've mentioned numerous times, we're considering a demonstrated reliable source here which has so far survived a long standing, never ending stream of assaults upon it. If you have a slam-dunk confirmation of error, please provide it.

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#111263 Feb 27, 2013
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>Prove it, or apologize!

Assuming she is wrong, when is the last time you have ever apologized for being wrong?

EVER?
KAB

United States

#111264 Feb 27, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Google 'lacrustial"
It is not hard and does not hurt at all.
I've done it, but apparently you haven't!
KAB

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#111265 Feb 27, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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It's an easy to read booklet with science value indeed.
My translator agrees.
What language is your translator translating into or from for you?

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#111266 Feb 27, 2013
KAB wrote:
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MAAT can probably verify for you that ancient Hebrew had no word for son-in-law.

khatan

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#111267 Feb 27, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I've done it, but apparently you haven't!

But I have.

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#111268 Feb 27, 2013
KAB wrote:
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As I've mentioned numerous times, we're considering a demonstrated reliable source here which has so far survived a long standing, never ending stream of assaults upon it. If you have a slam-dunk confirmation of error, please provide it.
Leviticus:
11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls ; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
11:15 Every raven after his kind;
11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Bats are not fowl.

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#111269 Feb 27, 2013
KAB wrote:
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As I've mentioned numerous times, we're considering a demonstrated reliable source here which has so far survived a long standing, never ending stream of assaults upon it. If you have a slam-dunk confirmation of error, please provide it.

So the Theory of Evolution is a demonstrated reliable source.

What is your point?

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#111270 Feb 27, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You don't seem to understand. It has hundreds of feet of LAKE, not RAIN, sediment in it, complete with shells.

Because you have quoted him before.

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#111271 Feb 27, 2013
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>Scipture says what scripture says. Sorry you don't like it, and it refutes your world view.

Quite the contrary, it refutes YOUR world view. You just manage to read into it what you want to see.

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#111272 Feb 27, 2013
Marksman on logical fallacies
marksman11 wrote:
Belief in Evolution is Like Belief in Santa Claus

False analogy
marksman11 wrote:
Every Christmas, humorous articles are written by engineers about the theory of Santa Claus........

Psychological projection.

marksman11 wrote:
Similarly, mathematicians have conclusively demonstrated the impossibility of chemicals randomly combining to form a living cell...

Outright lie. Straw-man.

marksman11 wrote:
Engineers have shown that the energy required to put together the more complex molecules would have destroyed the partial products.

Outright lie. Affirming the anticedent,

marksman11 wrote:
But evolutionists continue to believe that the first living cell formed by chance.

Strawman
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marksman11 wrote:
There are creatures under the trees. Evolution must have happened. You can't deny the fact of evolution, even though the theory is shaky.

strawman.
marksman11 wrote:
Children believe that Santa's reindeer can fly. They have never seen a reindeer fly. There isn't....

False analogy, slippery slope, outright lie.

marksman11 wrote:
Evolutionists believe that animals change from one species to another. Nobody has every seen it happen.

Strawman, outright lie

marksman11 wrote:
After 130 years of searching the fossil record, there is no fossil evidence to indicate that it has happened in the past.
http://www.ridgenet.net/~do_while/sage/v1i3f....

Outright lie.

Link reads almost like a parody of creationism.
KAB

United States

#111273 Feb 27, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you suggesting that there are no discrepancies between translations? They can't even agree on which books to include.
You see, how you saw what you wanted to see? In the previously cited example it was the "so as to confuse his beloved children" part that was seeing what you wanted to see. There are other possible reasons for allowing multiple content-varying versions of "the Bible". The Bible's explanation is embodied in Hebrews 4:12 and 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.

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#111274 Feb 27, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You see, how you saw what you wanted to see? In the previously cited example it was the "so as to confuse his beloved children" part that was seeing what you wanted to see. There are other possible reasons for allowing multiple content-varying versions of "the Bible". The Bible's explanation is embodied in Hebrews 4:12 and 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.
As usual, you through out bible quotes. Neither of these offers any explanation as to why the various translation do not agree or why Christians can't even agree on the number of books in the bible.

If you can't explain it, just say so.
KAB

United States

#111275 Feb 27, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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There is roughly 200 feet of lake sediment in Barringer Crater. What is your point, KAB?
My point is that there was a lake in it at least once upon a time. It would be interesting to core sample and date the sediment from top to bottom.
KAB

United States

#111276 Feb 27, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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If you are not at all interested in science then just admit that. Don't keep putting forth contorted rationalizations to that effect.
Adam and Eve lived at least 60,000 years apart. Sort of hard to procreate when you are not alive at the same time. knowwhatimean?
For the rest of your post, please provide data. No data, no science.
I think he was referring to a different Adam and Eve, and I did provide data. All the statements which include numbers were taken directly from Theword's source.
KAB

United States

#111277 Feb 27, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Yes, Barringer crater has been a lake a lake at times in it's history, including shortly after the impact, during wetter periods in that region.
What does that have to do with Da Flud?
Da Flud may have contributed.

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#111278 Feb 27, 2013
KAB wrote:
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My point is that there was a lake in it at least once upon a time. It would be interesting to core sample and date the sediment from top to bottom.
I agree, though naturally not for some absurd verification that the western U.S. was covered by 4.26 kilometers of rainwater.
http://www.barringercrater.com/about/history_...
http://www.arizonanevadaacademyofscience.org/...
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/books/ba...
According to this 2007 article, more thorough coring research of the Barringer sediments and breccia was pending funding.

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