It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ... Full Story

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#111083 Feb 25, 2013
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>Matthew 5:19
"Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

If you want to be the least then you are doing well.

[QUOTE who="marksman11"] <quoted text>Now, show me 5 things.
1....where is pi mentioned?
2....show where this states that the molten sea was perfectly round.
3.... Show why it is impossible for for this molten sea to measure 30 cubits around it.
4...pi is 3, just not to the infinate fraction level of explanation. a 2x 4 is not 2 x 4 either.
5....Why are you so desperate that you have to sink to this level of ignorant excuses?

1. 1 Kings 7:23-26
2. 1 Kings 7:23 Now he made the sea of cast metal ten cubits from brim to brim, circular in form.
3. If the diameter is 10 then the Circumference is 31.42 cubits
If the Circumference is 30 then the diameter is 9.548 cubits.
The math only works if Pi=3. Which it does not.
4.? 3 is off from 3.14 by a factor of a hundred. Do you understand that?
5. Just pointing out the bible has errors, omissions, inaccuracies, etc.

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#111084 Feb 25, 2013
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>How can you do that from an iron lung??
<quoted text>Sorry but fossils aren't arranged at all.

That is not what the fossil record shows.

marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have to interpret them. THey are observable, unlike your world view!!!

Projection.
KAB

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#111085 Feb 25, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, they are the exact same logic. So by your own logic, Spiderman exists.
No, as I predicted, it's by your logic Spiderman exists, not mine.
Going forward, don't be surprised if I don't respond to your dataless posts.

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#111086 Feb 25, 2013
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>No Kidding!!!!???<quoted text>No it doesn't. It is giving the measurement of a molten sea, not the definition of pi.

The definition of pi is the circumference divided by the diameter, so the text EXACTLY defines Pi (as 3).

Witness
Circumference: 30
Diameter: 10

30/10 = 3.


Give this story problem to your kids

If you have a pool that is ten feet from brim to brim, circular in form, and thirty feet in circumference, then what is the ratio of the circumference to the diameter.
KAB

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#111087 Feb 25, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry guy, I returned the books to the library long ago. You're library is bound to have them...they were popular books
Try finding the material you need on the net. I routinely do it successfully all the time.

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#111088 Feb 25, 2013
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>You are wrong where it says 300=100 pi. You are wrong where you say therefore pi=3. Pi equals 3.14259+. You are wrong because the bible never says pi is 3. It was giving the measurement of a molten sea, not the definition of pi. You guys are terrible at interpretation.

It gives the DEFINITION of Pi (with an answer of 3).
KAB

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#111089 Feb 25, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
LAKES is the buzzword.
Any form or shape that can be filled by sediments particularly since we are talking LACRUSTIANS.
Ejection material you also dismissed. As if a meteorhit wouldhave no ejction marerial and would leave no lacrusteans behind!
Sorry but direct your comments to the air of a wall next time...it's too daft.
Indeed, a dizzying intellect. What's a LACRUSTIAN (lacrustean?) anyway?
KAB

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#111090 Feb 25, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>They're still 50,000 years old.
What of your creation myth now?
If you see a problem, you'll have to state it since I don't.

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#111091 Feb 25, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
The basis for the assertion is the lack of even one confirmed Bible error, combined with the fact that this is not for lack of trying and should be relatively easy to accomplish if the Bible contained errors. Please keep in mind that I refer here to the Bible as defined generally by compilation from oldest available manuscripts. There are numerous confirmed errors in various later versions/translations.
As to the canon, according to the Muratorian Fragment (identifies 170CE canon), it's not Eusebius'.

That the bible contains errors is a fact that all rational people seem to admit. That fundies deny all errors is observed in both Christian and Islamic fundamentalism.

"The term "fundamentalism" was originally used in reference to certain Christian groups but today commonly refers to the anti-modernist movements of any religion based on literal interpretation of religious scriptures" - Wikipedia.

I have asked for anyone to detect an error in my assertion that the entire universe is made up of invisible purple ping-pong balls, and to date no errors have been found. Keep in mind it should be relatively easy to prove if I am in error.

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#111092 Feb 25, 2013
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>LOL....yeah right. One, you claim to be agnostic, but you spew humanism. Humanism was deemed a religion by the supreme court in the early 60's. Part of the humanist manifesto adheres to human from non-human evolution. I have been showing you for 3 years how human from non-human evolution is BS. You believe it anyway. So don't tell me who is blinded by their religion. You are not worthy to be that judge.

You are conflating humanism, secular humanism, religious humanism, atheism, and the right of any group of individual to determine what their religion is. Some people list "the force" as their religion on census papers. The Supreme Court simply upheld their 1st amendment rights. That does not mean all humanists consider humanism to be a religion nor are they seeking tax exempt status for their (usually non-religious) beliefs.

And remember, you have been failing for 3 years to support creationism and have not landed a single blow against evolution.

Pretty futile.

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#111093 Feb 25, 2013
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>hahahaha....it is impossible for a molten sea to be measured?....HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!


You are looking a crazy through the rear view mirror.

You DO understand that molten just meant it was a cast metal, right?



wow. Just wow.
KAB

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#111094 Feb 25, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe the quote is: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Other than that you are wrong about sedimentation in craters being somehow magically different.
Meteor Crater is great evidence that there was never a global flood in the last 50,000 years.
How is Meteor Crater great evidence that there was never a global flood in the last 50,000 years?

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#111095 Feb 25, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
So how old is the John fragment? Beyond that what is the data for John being written centuries later?

It would have been that particular volume that was written later.

The oldest fragment of John dates between 117 CE and 138. The original text of John is estimated to have been written between 85 and 100 a.d.

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#111096 Feb 25, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
It appears you have not read/studied the Bible. Have you? Reading/studying what others state about the Bible is not reading/studying the Bible. Note that you, like all your comrades in this forum, did not provide confirming data for even one error. You can only go so far as to declare "we DO have it", but for some reason can't provide it. Why is that do you think?

We have provided it, but you are steeped in denialism. Again I present the invisible purple ping-pong balls.

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#111097 Feb 25, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Because I consider you intellectually dishonest, mentally lazy, functionally illiterate and you never make an effort to start a search.

Mentally lazy is his signature. All he wants to do is play word games. No interest at all in learning. Lots of interested in defending his own world view and decreasing his own cognitive dissonance.

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#111098 Feb 25, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
How is Meteor Crater great evidence that there was never a global flood in the last 50,000 years?

1. It exists
2. it is not filled with sediment.


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#111099 Feb 25, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
Try finding the material you need on the net. I routinely do it successfully all the time.

World class(less) lazy.

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#111100 Feb 25, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
30/10 cubits being an approximation only means that "The Word of God" uses an approximation in relating that account. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you want to pursue any of the other questions just present them, one per post please. That keeps things more focused and orderly.
So you are now the imperium in imperio of this thread? I'll present as many questions to you as I please, and you may continue with the balderdash and distractions as you please, KAB with a K.

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#111101 Feb 25, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
1. It exists
2. it is not filled with sediment.
The dodging begins in 3....2....1....

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#111102 Feb 25, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
1. 1 Kings 7:23-26
2. 1 Kings 7:23 Now he made the sea of cast metal ten cubits from brim to brim, circular in form.
3. If the diameter is 10 then the Circumference is 31.42 cubits
If the Circumference is 30 then the diameter is 9.548 cubits.
The math only works if Pi=3. Which it does not.
4.? 3 is off from 3.14 by a factor of a hundred. Do you understand that?
5. Just pointing out the bible has errors, omissions, inaccuracies, etc.
nah, it uses bulits for the simple folk.

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