It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ... Full Story

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#110932 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
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They're your assertions to be confirmed, understandably, by you doing your homework to provide confirming data.
What's unreasonable about the following?:
"Here are my assertions, which must be taken as correct unless you prove them incorrect."

That is your assertion. If you would like to try to prove them I will sit here and be amused.


Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
I will not provide the data. You need to learn to do your own homework and own thinking. It is the only path to freedom.
I notice you could not provide even one germ of data against my post.
Typical of you.
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
Paul was rejected by Jesus' followers. He was the first Christian heretic (who John(?) labels 'false prophet'. All followers who acknowledge Paul are, by definition, heretics.
There are many religions not well received by society. Muslims, Jews, ATHEISTS, SDAs, Christian Scientists, Mormans,.....
As to the JW cult you guys DO get a few things right:
- denial of the Trinity
- denial of deity of Christ
- denial of physical resurrection.
You do down hill fast from there, however.
Things you get wrong are legion:
- Mistranslations of many words including YHWH
- revisionist history (including JW history)
- false prophecies
- what happens after death (more the inconsistency than the dogma)
- 144,000.... enough said.
- Whole nonsense about immortal vs. everlasting life (yes, I have read the nonsense, it is guano crazy).
- New World Translation (again enough said).
many, many, many more.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#110933 Feb 23, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
I have provided you with links to thousands of errors.
BTW, 400 contributors to the bible would be far closer than 40. Actually they probably number in the thousands just for the NT.
I have considered every submission you have provided, and so far the first item on each list has always proven laughably easily demonstrably false (e.g., Pi=3) leaving no motivation or rationale for going any further down the list. If you can't sanity check pre-screen your submissions to make the residual worthy of consideration, I'm not going to do it for you.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#110934 Feb 23, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no confirming data for anything there, just a list of dataless assertions which by themselves are worthless. I realize that finding data takes work whereas spewing assertion does not, but rational people want to see confirming data from those lazy enough to try getting by with only the assertions. So get off your lazy butt and provide data.
For which assertion do you want data first?
KAB

Oxford, NC

#110935 Feb 23, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Which is 100% tolerance in modern structures.
The statement in question is not an instruction for forming a wash basin. It is a passing reference to the size of the finished basin. There isn't even a hint of using Pi=3 to form something. If there was, I would be all over it like KAB on the Quran 4:11,12.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#110936 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
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You must be delusional. I don't believe as fact, things which have zero supporting evidence.
The bible and koran have zero supporting evidence.

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#110937 Feb 23, 2013
Marksman, show me where my math is wrong:

C = pi d
C = 300
d = 100
300 = 100 pi
Therefore, pi = 3

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#110938 Feb 23, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Marksman, show me where my math is wrong:
C = pi d
C = 300
d = 100
300 = 100 pi
Therefore, pi = 3
"&#960;".

Huh.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#110939 Feb 23, 2013
And yet, I can do :-̃
KAB

Oxford, NC

#110940 Feb 23, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't believe God exists?
You don't accept as true that Noah's flood really occurred?
Of course I do. They're documented in a demonstrated reliable source, and no physical data has confirmed these things cannot be so.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#110941 Feb 23, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
That is your assertion. If you would like to try to prove them I will sit here and be amused.
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
I will not provide the data. You need to learn to do your own homework and own thinking. It is the only path to freedom.
I notice you could not provide even one germ of data against my post.
Typical of you.
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
Paul was rejected by Jesus' followers. He was the first Christian heretic (who John(?) labels 'false prophet'. All followers who acknowledge Paul are, by definition, heretics.
There are many religions not well received by society. Muslims, Jews, ATHEISTS, SDAs, Christian Scientists, Mormans,.....
As to the JW cult you guys DO get a few things right:
- denial of the Trinity
- denial of deity of Christ
- denial of physical resurrection.
You do down hill fast from there, however.
Things you get wrong are legion:
- Mistranslations of many words including YHWH
- revisionist history (including JW history)
- false prophecies
- what happens after death (more the inconsistency than the dogma)
- 144,000.... enough said.
- Whole nonsense about immortal vs. everlasting life (yes, I have read the nonsense, it is guano crazy).
- New World Translation (again enough said).
many, many, many more.
Tangled!!!? I wondered what had become of you, and now I see you're back and posing as Dr. D., but the trademark mindlessly repeated list is a dead giveaway.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#110942 Feb 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible and koran have zero supporting evidence.
Now you've moved into the realm of openly stupid. The Bible contains references to Assyrian King Sargon. Compare them with archaeological finds, and you'll see how quickly the Bible moves out of the zero evidence column.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#110943 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
I have considered every submission you have provided, and so far the first item on each list has always proven laughably easily demonstrably false (e.g., Pi=3) leaving no motivation or rationale for going any further down the list. If you can't sanity check pre-screen your submissions to make the residual worthy of consideration, I'm not going to do it for you.

I have considered every submission you have provided, and so far the first item on each list has always proven laughably easily demonstrably false (e.g. Watchtowerism is not insane) leaving no motivation or rationale for going any further down the list. If you can't sanity check pre-screen your submissions to make the residual worthy of consideration, I'm not going to do it for you.

In other words, no data, no dice.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#110944 Feb 23, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Marksman, show me where my math is wrong:
C = pi d
C = 300
d = 100
300 = 100 pi
Therefore, pi = 3
If you were good with math you would readily recognize that 3 is Pi rounded to one significant digit.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#110945 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
For which assertion do you want data first?

You have no data. Assertions is is all you ever have.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#110946 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
The statement in question is not an instruction for forming a wash basin. It is a passing reference to the size of the finished basin. There isn't even a hint of using Pi=3 to form something. If there was, I would be all over it like KAB on the Quran 4:11,12.

You better go back and read both again.

The bibles failure to correctly define pi is a major gaff.

But it is easy to rationalize the minor error in the koran.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contra...

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#110947 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
Now you've moved into the realm of openly stupid. The Bible contains references to Assyrian King Sargon. Compare them with archaeological finds, and you'll see how quickly the Bible moves out of the zero evidence column.
Weren't Billy Mays, Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett, Patrick Swayze, Walter Cronkite, Dom DeLuise, Edward Kennedy, Natasha Richardson, Bea Arthur, David Carradine, DJ AM, Steve McNair, and Michael Jackson actual people?

You can see them all on Season 13 Episode 8 of South Park.

So South Park must also be true.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#110948 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course I do. They're documented in a demonstrated reliable source, and no physical data has confirmed these things cannot be so.

No, not one of the sources of a flood are from a "demonstrated reliable source". The best accounts of the flood (probably and actual localized event) are in records that predate (and disagree with) the bible.

The physical data show that no global flood ever occurred. EVER.

If you can produce some DATA of this flood I will reconsider my statement. Till then the evidence stands. No global flood.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#110949 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
Tangled!!!? I wondered what had become of you, and now I see you're back and posing as Dr. D., but the trademark mindlessly repeated list is a dead giveaway.

Sorry, I am not TB but I do miss his more active presence here. I may have learned to repeat data that others are unable to respond to from him. It is a potent weapon against ignorance.


Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
That is your assertion. If you would like to try to prove them I will sit here and be amused.
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
I will not provide the data. You need to learn to do your own homework and own thinking. It is the only path to freedom.
I notice you could not provide even one germ of data against my post.
Typical of you.
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
Paul was rejected by Jesus' followers. He was the first Christian heretic (who John(?) labels 'false prophet'. All followers who acknowledge Paul are, by definition, heretics.
There are many religions not well received by society. Muslims, Jews, ATHEISTS, SDAs, Christian Scientists, Mormans,.....
As to the JW cult you guys DO get a few things right:
- denial of the Trinity
- denial of deity of Christ
- denial of physical resurrection.
You do down hill fast from there, however.
Things you get wrong are legion:
- Mistranslations of many words including YHWH
- revisionist history (including JW history)
- false prophecies
- what happens after death (more the inconsistency than the dogma)
- 144,000.... enough said.
- Whole nonsense about immortal vs. everlasting life (yes, I have read the nonsense, it is guano crazy).
- New World Translation (again enough said).
many, many, many more.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#110950 Feb 23, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you've moved into the realm of openly stupid. The Bible contains references to Assyrian King Sargon. Compare them with archaeological finds, and you'll see how quickly the Bible moves out of the zero evidence column.

This is very poor logic.

You like to make a bang sound like a real gun, but all you got are blanks.

The Koran documents event that were unknown to outside history as well till modern archeology verified the claims.

Does that make the Koran evidence based?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Twin Cities

#110951 Feb 23, 2013
Benjamin Franklin: "Lighthouses are more useful than churches,"

Thomas Jefferson: "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."

Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and even St. Paul….never met Jesus.

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