It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

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I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...
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Feb 20, 2013
 
Dogen wrote:
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/62345273/TheOriginofL...
This list of JW lies about evolution was put together by a recovering JW.
Thank you for the reference. What do you make of the following statement from it?

"The brochure infers that there is no evidence of abiogenesis. The
source discusses the possibility of life being introduced by materials from space."

If this is not apples and oranges then please explain the continuity.
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Feb 20, 2013
 
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If your mean your "anything can mean anything" version of open-minded reading then, no.
Genesis says what it says. Bummer that it doesn't agree with reality and the contortions you have to resort to in trying to make it fit.
I don't use "anything can mean anything". I've referred to the dictionary more than anyone in this forum and all for the purpose of determining and staying within proper bounds.
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Feb 20, 2013
 
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Have you ever considered a career in stand-up comedy?
Yes I have.
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Feb 20, 2013
 
MikeF wrote:
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Then why bother to reference it, Mr Data Lover?
Not every communication need have proving something as its objective. Some are only meant to generate thought. Why, some are just meant to elicit laughter.
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Feb 20, 2013
 
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Since there is no explanation of the source of said light and the sun doesn't appear until the 4th day, I do not consider the matter closed.
Furthermore, the existence of the earth prior to the sun is at odds with the evidence.
The complete text in context does not require the existence of the earth prior to the sun (i.e., possibility of the sun existing but obscured by cloud cover, remember?).

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Feb 20, 2013
 
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>The complete text in context does not require the existence of the earth prior to the sun (i.e., possibility of the sun existing but obscured by cloud cover, remember?).
Wow.

Just.... Wow.

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Feb 20, 2013
 
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How were those scholars characterized, objective or critical?

False dichotomy?

Um... well educated, experts in their field,....

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Feb 20, 2013
 
KAB wrote:
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Anybody can declare himself a Christian, including me, but that's not how it's determined (Daniel 6:5).

What an oddly out of context quote.

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Feb 20, 2013
 
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That's why you go back to the oldest available, but no longer used copies, to resolve concerns that arise. In the case of the Bible, those are about 2,000 years old, not 10.

Depends on if you mean OT or NT. The oldest manuscript of a nearly complete bible dates to the 4th century a.d..

The great thing about old fragments is that no two of them agree.

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#110622
Feb 20, 2013
 
KAB wrote:
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I don't use "anything can mean anything".
Yeah, you do.
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I've referred to the dictionary more than anyone in this forum and all for the purpose of determining and staying within proper bounds.
Nope. You ignore context in order to make Genesis say what you want it to.

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Feb 20, 2013
 
KAB wrote:
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Hundreds of years removed is much, much better than thousands. The rest of your assertions are, well ... dataless assertions. You also left "inspired by God" (2 Timothy 3:16) off your list.

You left off the unknown authorship of 2 Tim as well as the literal and historic context of the passage.

Also is the Rig Veda inspired by god?

The Koran?

The Gospel of Thomas?

Revelation?

Hebrews?

Job?

Ruth?

Ecclesiaticus?

Hopefully you will discern why I choose the particular examples in the above list.

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Feb 20, 2013
 
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Confirming data will trump my present religion every time. That's because for its foundation my religion is committed to what is confirmed.
Oh, like Noah's flood and God's existence?

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Feb 20, 2013
 
KAB wrote:
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I'm looking all the time, but I'm only one person. I'm trying to compare notes (data really). However, it's very difficult to get objective cooperation here.

I generally am very willing to provide objective cooperation with people who are objective and cooperative.

Perhaps we both have goals to work toward.

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Feb 20, 2013
 
Kong_ wrote:
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Wow.
Just.... Wow.
That has to be a violation of one of these don'ts - from Answers in Genesis, no less(!)

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/t...

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The dataless assertions continue, so I will be reverting back to generally only responding to you when you provide data. So, when I don't respond, just check your lack of data. Also, it seems only fair to remind you that a conclusion based on data is not the data.

I referenced the data (the bible) and provided examples.

If you don't understand textual criticism then that is something for you to look up on your own time.

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KAB wrote:
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The complete text in context does not require the existence of the earth prior to the sun (i.e., possibility of the sun existing but obscured by cloud cover, remember?).
Please provide chapter and verse for the 'cloud cover'

Also provide same for where "God made two great lights" was revised from the 4th day.

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Oh, like Noah's flood and God's existence?
Per my last post - Methuselah lived on for 17 years after the Flood.

Awkward, since he wasn't on the Ark.

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KAB wrote:
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The dataless assertions continue, so I will be reverting back to generally only responding to you when you provide data. So, when I don't respond, just check your lack of data. Also, it seems only fair to remind you that a conclusion based on data is not the data.

Your assertion is ignored due to lack of data.

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Feb 20, 2013
 
KAB wrote:
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Did you determine that thru a more careful open-minded reading of Genesis?

No, he determined that through a literal fundy reading of Genesis.

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KAB wrote:
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Confirming data will trump my present religion every time. That's because for its foundation my religion is committed to what is confirmed.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Your funniest quote to date.

http://www.casagrandebaptistchurch.com/Refuta...

The link is nearly as much gibberish as JW brainwashing, but it does point out some good stuff.

Their raking the New World "translation" over the hot coals is pretty entertaining.

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