It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ... Full Story

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#110618 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>The complete text in context does not require the existence of the earth prior to the sun (i.e., possibility of the sun existing but obscured by cloud cover, remember?).
Wow.

Just.... Wow.

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#110619 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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How were those scholars characterized, objective or critical?

False dichotomy?

Um... well educated, experts in their field,....

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#110620 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Anybody can declare himself a Christian, including me, but that's not how it's determined (Daniel 6:5).

What an oddly out of context quote.

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#110621 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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That's why you go back to the oldest available, but no longer used copies, to resolve concerns that arise. In the case of the Bible, those are about 2,000 years old, not 10.

Depends on if you mean OT or NT. The oldest manuscript of a nearly complete bible dates to the 4th century a.d..

The great thing about old fragments is that no two of them agree.

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#110622 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I don't use "anything can mean anything".
Yeah, you do.
KAB wrote:
I've referred to the dictionary more than anyone in this forum and all for the purpose of determining and staying within proper bounds.
Nope. You ignore context in order to make Genesis say what you want it to.

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#110623 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Hundreds of years removed is much, much better than thousands. The rest of your assertions are, well ... dataless assertions. You also left "inspired by God" (2 Timothy 3:16) off your list.

You left off the unknown authorship of 2 Tim as well as the literal and historic context of the passage.

Also is the Rig Veda inspired by god?

The Koran?

The Gospel of Thomas?

Revelation?

Hebrews?

Job?

Ruth?

Ecclesiaticus?

Hopefully you will discern why I choose the particular examples in the above list.

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Since: Mar 09

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#110624 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Confirming data will trump my present religion every time. That's because for its foundation my religion is committed to what is confirmed.
Oh, like Noah's flood and God's existence?

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#110625 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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I'm looking all the time, but I'm only one person. I'm trying to compare notes (data really). However, it's very difficult to get objective cooperation here.

I generally am very willing to provide objective cooperation with people who are objective and cooperative.

Perhaps we both have goals to work toward.

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#110626 Feb 20, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Wow.
Just.... Wow.
That has to be a violation of one of these don'ts - from Answers in Genesis, no less(!)

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/t...

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#110627 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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The dataless assertions continue, so I will be reverting back to generally only responding to you when you provide data. So, when I don't respond, just check your lack of data. Also, it seems only fair to remind you that a conclusion based on data is not the data.

I referenced the data (the bible) and provided examples.

If you don't understand textual criticism then that is something for you to look up on your own time.

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#110628 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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The complete text in context does not require the existence of the earth prior to the sun (i.e., possibility of the sun existing but obscured by cloud cover, remember?).
Please provide chapter and verse for the 'cloud cover'

Also provide same for where "God made two great lights" was revised from the 4th day.

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#110629 Feb 20, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Oh, like Noah's flood and God's existence?
Per my last post - Methuselah lived on for 17 years after the Flood.

Awkward, since he wasn't on the Ark.

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#110630 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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The dataless assertions continue, so I will be reverting back to generally only responding to you when you provide data. So, when I don't respond, just check your lack of data. Also, it seems only fair to remind you that a conclusion based on data is not the data.

Your assertion is ignored due to lack of data.

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#110631 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Did you determine that thru a more careful open-minded reading of Genesis?

No, he determined that through a literal fundy reading of Genesis.

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#110632 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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Confirming data will trump my present religion every time. That's because for its foundation my religion is committed to what is confirmed.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Your funniest quote to date.

http://www.casagrandebaptistchurch.com/Refuta...

The link is nearly as much gibberish as JW brainwashing, but it does point out some good stuff.

Their raking the New World "translation" over the hot coals is pretty entertaining.

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#110633 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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One does what one can while being careful to remain in bounds all the while.

Spoken like a true worm.

Worms do it in the dirt, baby!

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#110634 Feb 20, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Your funniest quote to date.
http://www.casagrandebaptistchurch.com/Refuta...
The link is nearly as much gibberish as JW brainwashing, but it does point out some good stuff.
Their raking the New World "translation" over the hot coals is pretty entertaining.
"If the NWT is better because of better educated men to translate, then God left us in the dark until 1901, because the NWT is drastically different from all other translations."

Laffin!

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#110635 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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That's plants, P-L-A-N-T-S, not planets.

Honestly, I don't always know when you are joking vs. when you are just being stupid. Since you are more frequently just stupid that has to be my tentative assumption.

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#110636 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
Anybody can declare himself a Christian, including me, but that's not how it's determined (Daniel 6:5).
Daniel knew how to become a Christian,
even though Daniel lived in Old Testament times?

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#110637 Feb 20, 2013
KAB wrote:
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An assertion easily proven incorrect if you can provide confirming data for even one error.

Dataless assertion.

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