That's meta-talk and way over his head.<quoted text>
Your statement about summary statements about data are not the data. A statements such as "A statement such as "The cheetah experienced a bottleneck 10,000 years ago" is not the data" is not the data. Your statement that "The data is what prompted such a statement to be made but may not warrant the statement as valid" may not be warranted as a valid statement.
Like i said if someone dismisses Tangled Banks clear and concise presentation, the problem would definitely be theirs.
4500 was indeed a new goal-post we started out somewhere around 5000. And everyone understood that is was an arbitrarily chose number. Something to work around. So basicly there are no sides when it comes to the ballpark number.
We also addeed that the hebrew bible does not give any indication whatsoever.
Our 'side' understands that parables are stories with a, or rather several lessons in them.
Also their calendar was chosen arbitrarily.