It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

There are 141337 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Mar 15, 2009, titled It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...

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LowellGuy

Lowell, MA

#99602 Oct 7, 2012
marksman11 wrote:
<quoted text>I ink science is wrong...
[QUOTE who=marksman11]I love science...[/QUOTE]

You liar.
LowellGuy

Lowell, MA

#99603 Oct 7, 2012
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why I don't use them.
A kind can reproduce itself but can't breed with the originating kind. You used the word you're defining in the definition of the word you're defining. On the very page you denied doing so. That is the definition of a circular definition. Ever considered not being full of shit?

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Since: Apr 12

Qufu, China

#99604 Oct 7, 2012
forreal wrote:
<quoted text>Paul said he was no longer him living but Christ in Him!!!

I bet the thief on the cross was disappointed.
Jesus promised him, "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise."

Jim Jones probably got his idea from Paul.
When Father Divine died, he told Father Divine's followers that their leader had entered his body.
Some of the Divinites believed him and converted to his cult.

[QUOTE]Stupid Ape!
Are we apes?
I thought we were descended from Adam and Eve!
LOL
What does the the Third Commandment say?

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Since: Apr 12

Qufu, China

#99605 Oct 7, 2012
Dogen wrote:
Too bad about your not having a sense of humor.
Hr probably does.
I'm beginning to wonder if he's a poe.

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Qufu, China

#99606 Oct 7, 2012
KAB wrote:
... or that mindless evolution generates new Biblical "kinds" (i.e., can reproduce themselves but cannot be bred with the originating kind).
Fine, then.
Noah took 1,250,000 pairs of animals on the Ark with him.
That's all I wanted to know.

““You must not lose faith ”

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Since: Jun 11

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#99607 Oct 8, 2012
forreal wrote:
<quoted text>re you saying by sining or breaking Gods laws, there isnt an affect? Just look at a woman who doesnt take care of her self when she has a baby 40days? Or just look at when happens when you mingle milk and meat at night? or what about have so many sex parnters can you evolve a new speices?
Someone should start turving in how many ways forreal can get any statement wrong.

There is the niddah...no sex when a women has her period.
Noah drunkenly in festive mode disobeyed, and Ham and his brother simply become an instrument of god, so as to find out.
So therefore they are not wrong. But as stated have god on their side.
The act is wrong, it does not make people eternal sinners, to be forever punished.
Feeling embarrasment and shame are punishment enough.
The idea is that people have free will, and because they have free will and are aware of right and wrong which gives their acts meaning.
Anyone unawares and even god unaware would never conclude that someting could be amiss. The idea is that people have a choice that gives their acts towards perfection or away from it meaning.
Shared responsibility.
Certain rules go for certain environments, but maybe it's as simple as some priest being lactose intolerant. Never underestimate the power of organized religion and their fickle rules. Therefore it is a good thing that their can be mitigating circumstances and that there is a gradation in judging.

But the short would be that not every religion reads the Adam and Eve episode as the invention of sin, or babies form them on for ever born evil, or women meriting to stake and burning for being evil temptresses.

Apropos evolution: how do you understand be fertile and multiply, and subsequent huge variations in life.

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#99608 Oct 8, 2012
Forreal you are aware that several species have asexual reproduction?
So are they disobeing god?

““You must not lose faith ”

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#99609 Oct 8, 2012
a.o. things forreal wrote:
I bet the thief on the cross was disappointed.
Jesus promised him, "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise."

end quote
Did you never notice something amiss in that entire narrative.

We find three people, of which one is exempt from being crucified.
Nevertheless three people are hung on the crosses.
forreal

Corpus Christi, TX

#99610 Oct 8, 2012
MAAT wrote:
Forreal you are aware that several species have asexual reproduction?
So are they disobeing god?
even animals will be judge for listening to the devil why would god curse the serpent.What about the swines who felt off the cliff over 2,000, did the demons used them as their way out?
forreal

Corpus Christi, TX

#99611 Oct 8, 2012
Thomas Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Are we apes?
I thought we were descended from Adam and Eve!
<quoted text>
What does the the Third Commandment say?
Darwin enter your body.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#99612 Oct 8, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Odd, he was fascinated by a year-by-year record - until I gave him one.
You don't suppose he actually looked up "dendrochronology", do you?
Oh, I'm sure he knows what it is. But, just like every other bit of data, that doesn't fit his "da flud gotta be true!" mindset, he ignores it.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#99613 Oct 8, 2012
forreal wrote:
<quoted text>Let look at Noah out of his sons and daughter in Laws, we get Black people, white people, Asian people, and so forth. But you must understand that part of thier looks was because a curse from God like Ham looking at his father in the nude, or it can be the Tower of babel that God change their looks and tongues? Now Noah did his part with the animals but God did his part in putting them where it seems fit.
Poe

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#99614 Oct 8, 2012
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
Translation: I don't want to understand the question.
Or the answer.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#99615 Oct 8, 2012
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
The data is not strong in this one either.
But the stupid is strong in THIS one.

(His posts are the data)

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#99616 Oct 8, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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All known floods have a resolution of less than one year. You are being disingenuous, stubborn or stupid.
I suspect a combination of 1 & 2.
I'll go with all of the above.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#99617 Oct 8, 2012
KAB wrote:
<quoted text>
I can live with non-confirmation. It appears to be you who can't.
I can live with non-confirmation. I live with the non-confirmation of a god. However, at some point, you have to stop being a complete idiot and realize that non-confirmation is NOT the same as overwhelming evidence. And the overwhelming evidence, in this case, is there was no flood. Any fool can see that. So we know where you fall on the scale.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#99618 Oct 8, 2012
forreal wrote:
<quoted text>even animals will be judge for listening to the devil why would god curse the serpent.What about the swines who felt off the cliff over 2,000, did the demons used them as their way out?

Are you some evil genius trying to discredit Christianity. Or just some putz who does not know what he is talking about.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#99619 Oct 8, 2012
forreal wrote:
<quoted text>Darwin enter your body.

"commandment" is probably better translated "declaration".
forreal

Corpus Christi, TX

#99620 Oct 8, 2012
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you some evil genius trying to discredit Christianity. Or just some putz who does not know what he is talking about.
when are you going to admit Nero isnt the real anti-christ?LOL When are you going to admit mordern Bible scholars are not better than St Paul!LOL
KAB

United States

#99621 Oct 8, 2012
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not "may" as in "may contradict the current understanding." It's "may" as in "there wasn't a current understanding, and this adds to our knowledge." If true, it contradicts your Bible story. Not sure why you'd bother presenting actual science that actually contradicts your Bible story.
Any way you cut it it's still "may not be so" by definition.
Also, unlike you, I have no reservations about presenting what may contradict my present understanding. I'm not in this to protect my present understanding, but to adhere to what is true.

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