It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the ...

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

There are 151419 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Mar 15, 2009, titled It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...

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“I am Sisyphus”

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#99441 Oct 6, 2012
KAB wrote:
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No, resolution doesn't make data disappear, but it can make it impossible to distinguish from its surroundings (the technical word is resolve).

Flood data has less than a 1 year resolution. Unless there are floods in the fossil record that are greater than a year.

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#99442 Oct 6, 2012
KAB wrote:
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At least somebody here astutely perceives the big picture. Don't count on that Earth age differential tho. Also your reference to the "mainline scientific community" is an important distinction. Not all scientists side with that mainline.

This is not a lie, but very nearly so. 99% of all scientists are on the "mainline side". Only "scientists" that are fundys (either Islamic or Christian) are on the other side. That would seem to discount their opinion as they have an agenda, yes?

When was the last time you had 100% of anybody agreeing on anything?

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#99443 Oct 6, 2012
KAB wrote:
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As a factor in my life, the Bible keeps me from locking up people unless its standard of justice is met. One person's prediction, regardless of track record, is not it.

You are deflecting (dodging) again. None of this is about what the bible states. It is about having your argumentation logic turned back on you and you being too uncomfortable about it to give an honest answer.

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#99444 Oct 6, 2012
KAB wrote:
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That depends more on the definitions of the terms than the intelliigence of the evaluator. In general, the difference is determined by whatever is different about the definitions; the kind of stuff they teach in grade school Venn diagrams, but maybe not when Darwin was in grade school.

Another dodge.

You are disgusting.

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#99445 Oct 6, 2012
KAB wrote:
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Duane Gish is as free to provide data as anyone else. Note, it's data that's most welcome, not opinions. BTW, I have no idea who he is, nor do I care.

Duane Gish, much like yourself, only offers data when he is cornered, and then to both your own detriment.

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#99446 Oct 6, 2012
KAB wrote:
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Noah took what was necessary to generate life as it exists today. You can be sure he didn't take every specific variant of canine.

Likely not, but 2 of the same species (plus the food to maintain them) would overwhelm an ark 20 times the size of what Noah is said to have had.

I guess it does not matter because the story was stolen from the older Gilgamesh tale.

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#99447 Oct 6, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>So whence came all of today's species (SPECIES) of canine come from?
Evolution?
In, what, 4,000-odd years?
Wow, that's a new species every few generations!

All dogs ARE one species. They are just different varieties. They are not genetically changed from a wolf.

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#99448 Oct 6, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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The only thing we can be sure of is you're stonewalling for stupidity.

Stonewalling for stupidity. I like that. It describes KAB very well.

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#99449 Oct 6, 2012
forreal wrote:
<quoted text>are you saying that bible scholars are better than St Paul?LOL

You mean Paul the Heretic or
Paul the False Prophet?

Actually, Paul knew almost nothing about Jesus and perverts the message of the Christ pretty badly.

All that is an aside. Yes, modern biblical scholars know much more (though still extremely little) about Jesus and his message than Paul did.

Paul had no writings about Jesus.
Paul was rejected by the ACTUAL disciples of Jesus.
Paul was a misogynist and Jesus respected women.
Paul was a Pharisee and never completely put away his Pharisaic training.
Paul was strongly influenced by the early Gnostics.
Paul made up most of his beliefs about Jesus.

You can write every factual thing Paul ever said about or quoted the MAN Jesus on a 3x5 card and have room to spare. Try it sometime.

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#99450 Oct 6, 2012
forreal wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever seen a Beefalo? thats not evolution its crossbreeding?
Yes, I'm aware of that.

Got nothing to do with evolution or the post to which you pretend to be responding.

You seem to hold the position that both cows and bison, not to mention wisent, aurochs, Cape buff, water buff, yak, zebu, gaur, and I dunno how many other widely-separated species all evolved from a single breeding pair of proto-bovines.

In 4,000 years.

Delusional much?
forreal

United States

#99451 Oct 6, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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You mean Paul the Heretic or
Paul the False Prophet?
Actually, Paul knew almost nothing about Jesus and perverts the message of the Christ pretty badly.
All that is an aside. Yes, modern biblical scholars know much more (though still extremely little) about Jesus and his message than Paul did.
Paul had no writings about Jesus.
Paul was rejected by the ACTUAL disciples of Jesus.
Paul was a misogynist and Jesus respected women.
Paul was a Pharisee and never completely put away his Pharisaic training.
Paul was strongly influenced by the early Gnostics.
Paul made up most of his beliefs about Jesus.
You can write every factual thing Paul ever said about or quoted the MAN Jesus on a 3x5 card and have room to spare. Try it sometime.
with all this information you make sure none of your favorite bible scholars ever quote from St Paul ever again!LOL May this be the last time you ever quote St paul yourself!LOL

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#99452 Oct 6, 2012
Thomas Robertson wrote:
“Some Evolutionists are confused, because dogs fit into 35 species in 14 genii.”

KAB wrote:
“Noah took what was necessary to generate life as it exists today. You can be sure he didn't take every specific variant of canine.”

Please answer my question. Between the Gray wolf, Domestic dog, Dingo, Coyote, Ethiopian wolf, Golden jackal, Side-striped jackal, Black-backed jackal, Asian wild dog&#65292;African wild dog, Short-eared dog,&#65292;Crab-eating fox, Falklands wolf, Culpeo, Darwin's fox, South American gray fox, Pampas fox, Sechura fox, Hoary fox, Maned wolf, Bush dog, Arctic fox, Red fox, Swift fox, Kit fox, Corsac fox, Cape fox, Pale fox, Bengal fox, Tibetan sand fox, Blanford's fox, Rüppell's fox, Fennec fox, Gray fox, Island fox, and Cozumel fox, which ones did he take?
forreal

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#99453 Oct 6, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I'm aware of that.
Got nothing to do with evolution or the post to which you pretend to be responding.
You seem to hold the position that both cows and bison, not to mention wisent, aurochs, Cape buff, water buff, yak, zebu, gaur, and I dunno how many other widely-separated species all evolved from a single breeding pair of proto-bovines.
In 4,000 years.
Delusional much?
having sex with different people or races is not evolution!God didnt make just one cow he said cattle according to its kind!

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#99454 Oct 6, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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All dogs ARE one species. They are just different varieties. They are not genetically changed from a wolf.
Dogs, yes.

Canines, no.
KAB

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#99455 Oct 6, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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I notice that this is an assertion and you provided no data.
Why is that do you think.
I didn't assert anything. I raised a question of possibility. "Perhaps" is the distinguishing factor. Those good with English would recognize that.
KAB

Wilson, NC

#99456 Oct 6, 2012
LowellGuy wrote:
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Tell you what: go get yourself a few cartons of salt and dump them all over your yard. Water it in. Then, tell us how much rain it takes to bring that land back to fertility.
Are you sure a few cartons would be the right concentration for a valid experiment?
Johny

Seabrook, TX

#99457 Oct 6, 2012
Thomas - Obviously Noah took the animals which God told him, so he got the correct genetic makeup to have all the animals we have today. The mitochondrial DNA Eve would support the flood narrative, where a few women constrained the genetic makeup of mankind today.

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#99458 Oct 6, 2012
marksman11 wrote:
How would you possibly know.
We call it science. Perhaps you've heard of it.
marksman11 wrote:
And plants can exist before the sun.
What plants existed before the sun? On the not-yet Earth.
marksman11 wrote:
Light existed before the sun.
Prove it.
marksman11 wrote:
Then what did they eat?
Whatever was available. But not seed bearing plants.

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#99459 Oct 6, 2012
marksman11 wrote:
I can accept the obviousness that Jesus existence is certain.
You just contradicted yourself, Markie.

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#99460 Oct 6, 2012
KAB wrote:
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During the immediate time period they were far too busy treading water to record what was happening!
No more stupid than most of your answers.

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