It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the ...

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

There are 141402 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Mar 15, 2009, titled It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...

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KAB

Oxford, NC

#99101 Oct 3, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Eschew the obfuscation.
Are you stating that the biblical reference translated as "tottering" was NOT alluding to an earthquake?
Okay, I'll bite. To what WAS it alluding?
Always consider the context. It refers to destruction.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#99102 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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The earth doesn't collapse to destruction in an earthquake. It just changes shape. The context of the verse addresses the permanence of the earth.

so god lied again? Even the earth is not permanent. Eventually our sun will expand and it will be vaporized.

Or do you reject ALL of what science says?

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#99103 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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Anteaters are definitely at least part of a kind, or if you prefer, they belong to a kind. You should have paid more attention to the Venn diagram lesson in grade school.

I notice you ignored my ring species post yesterday. I wonder why that is.

You should have paid more attention when your ideas are being refuted so badly that you cannot even respond to them.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#99104 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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The issue is not global flood, bottlenecks, and creation sequence. It's what the data shows, and that they do see and understand. You don't.
They don't see and understand what you say they should necessarily see because the Bible is true. If they are competent, they should see what you say they should see. But they don't, so they aren't. These are the logical consequences of your words. We realize you're not used to thinking about such things, but you should.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#99105 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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Always consider the context.
Such as with the definition of parsimony. Liar.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#99106 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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The earth doesn't collapse to destruction in an earthquake. It just changes shape. The context of the verse addresses the permanence of the earth.
Yes, just like the Twin Towers didn't collapse, they just changed shape.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#99107 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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The earth doesn't collapse to destruction in an earthquake. It just changes shape. The context of the verse addresses the permanence of the earth.
When soil liquefies during an earthquake, does the land above it collapse?

When a sinkhole occurs, does the land collapse?
KAB

Oxford, NC

#99108 Oct 3, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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Correct. And you are looking for a bottleneck of 2 individuals at 4500.
I'm sorry, you lose again. But as a consolation prize you get our home edition of the 'Topix Game'. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
No, I have 8 at 4500 (Genesis 8:15,16).

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#99109 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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No, I have 8 at 4500 (Genesis 8:15,16).
Funny that there is genetic evidence for a human bottleneck for the Toba Catastrophe (1,000 to 10,000 breeding pairs, 69,000 -77,000 years ago), but they somehow overlooked a MUCH MORE DEVASTATING collapse of humanity a mere 4,500 years ago!

Toba: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe...

Incidently, Noah and wife didn't have children post-flood, so the effective genetic bottleneck was only THREE breeding pairs of humans.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#99110 Oct 3, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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So a ring species is a kind till it gets to a species it cannot breed with, correct?
So, here is the problem:
A can breed with B, C and sometimes D, but not E or F
B can breed with with C, D, and E but not F.
C can breed with D, E and not F.
D can breed with E, but not F
E can breed with F but not A
How many Kinds are represented here?
Which combinations are kinds and not kinds?
They all belong to one kind.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#99111 Oct 3, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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False. We do not have water covering the largest mountains on earth currently and we don't have underground reserves of water enough to raise sea levels hardly at all. We have no magical drain down through which water can pass to another dimension or whatnot.
You apparently missed the article relating that there's an "Arctic Ocean" worth of water contained in the rock down below.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#99112 Oct 3, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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Part of a kind is classic. Expect this to stick with you.
I certainly hope so.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#99113 Oct 3, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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Hundreds of year to repopulate the world, to relearn the Egyptian language (which they continued to use throughout thousands of years), and to relearn pyramid building and to pick up where their predecessors left off.....
That is a laugh.
Are you sure about that global flood?
Now that you've done the heavy lifting, all you need to do is provide the data and run the numbers.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#99114 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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You apparently missed the article relating that there's an "Arctic Ocean" worth of water contained in the rock down below.
That only means that for a long time water has been part of the lithological cycle. Or the cycle of rock being formed at divergence zones and being consumed at mes, I mean Subduction Zones.

There is a very reasonable way to get the water in the cycle using Uniformitarianism, there is no mechanism to get the water down there with Catastrophorism.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#99115 Oct 3, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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What are you looking for?
A population expansion bottleneck.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#99116 Oct 3, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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The question was not about being tagged a child molester.... it involved being locked up for said offense.
I am really not sure of your reading comprehension skills.
The lock-up issue is what makes it not analogous to the Bible reliability scenario.
KAB

Oxford, NC

#99117 Oct 3, 2012
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
Dogen wrote:
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Who's problem is that?. You are just being dishonest and trying to hide from the fact that you have not been able to defend ANYTHING you have claimed.
Do you think childish games like this ENHANCES your credibility?
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You sure you understood my post?
Apparently better than you.
LowellGuy

Lowell, MA

#99118 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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A population expansion bottleneck.
You'll never find one because there is no such thing. Of course, if you tell us what you think it is, perhaps we can identify the correct term for you.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#99119 Oct 3, 2012
KAB wrote:
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You apparently missed the article relating that there's an "Arctic Ocean" worth of water contained in the rock down below.
How much water is that, exactly?

I guess it's OK to show us the math in cubic cubits and convert to homers and ephahs at the end. I'm sure you won't cut any corners because data is very important.

If you have any trouble, don't look to us for help. Ask the Holy Spirit.

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Qufu, China

#99120 Oct 3, 2012
forreal, where is there a city built on seven hills except Rome?

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