The persecution of God. Predicted by ...

The persecution of God. Predicted by the Bible thousands of years ago.

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“Don't base what is best”

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#1 Oct 21, 2013
One cannot deny that every culture, 4000 years ago to over 10,000 years, on every continent, throughout history since man has been able to write and record their lives all have left writings, drawing, sculptures and statues depicting life from above. It all is not passed down knowledge for cultures living during the same time periods while continents apart all share/have similar metaphysics depicting life from above during their lifetime. Culture history and finding tells the story worldwide.

We now have groups of people whose goal is to disprove God in any way they can. We have people teaching/telling others that God is not real. We have people that want to hear and believe God is not real and look for others to support their beliefs and help spread the word of a false God. Look around you, look on this forum, this is what is happening today and has been for a while now.

The bible predicted nearly 2000 years ago that this would happen in 2 Timothy 4:1-4 (1) In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:(2) Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.(3) For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.(4) They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

“Maccullochella macquariensis”

Since: May 08

Melbourne, Australia

#2 Oct 22, 2013
What does any of this have to do with evolution?

Think of the innocent little kittens...
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#3 Oct 22, 2013
Bluenose wrote:
What does any of this have to do with evolution?
Think of the innocent little kittens...
Indeed. Biology forum is the wrong forum for preaching. He wants to be here:

www.topix.com/forum/religion

“Don't base what is best”

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#4 Oct 22, 2013
What does this have to do with evolution you question. The fact that it is atheist who put their faith in evolution that want and are trying to disprove God. That is evident in your conversations of you saying God myth, false God, the myths of the Bible. The bible predicted around 2000 years ago in 2 Timothy they would do this. You say this is the wrong forum. How so when 80% of everyone's comments speak of God or the bible in some form either positive or negative, mainly negative. So I believe I posted in the right forum.

““You must not lose faith ”

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#5 Oct 22, 2013
Hmm i find that funny.
By the way great start about the use of written language.
Some sort of antropolgical essay on humanity and the need for spiritual uses was supposed to follow. i.m.o.

But read Deut. 18 in total and you'll find that jesus would be just a prophet failing and thus spreading the false word of G-d.

Nevertheless they killed YHVH and the jews and all the other socalled pagans just to further their religion.

Given that they never seem to give that a thought: Who cares about the NT.
But indeed go to topix religion.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#6 Oct 22, 2013
spirit warrior wrote:
What does this have to do with evolution you question.
I don't question, I already know the answer - it has nothing at all to do with evolution. Preaching is not for here, it is for proper forums, such as the religious forum. This has nothing to do with evolution because you're not even talking about evolution.
spirit warrior wrote:
The fact that it is atheist who put their faith in evolution that want and are trying to disprove God.
1 - There was recently an atheist from Liverpool on another thread who rejects evolution. So evolution has nothing to do with atheism.

2 - Many religious people, Christians included, accept evolution. So evolution has nothing to do with atheism.

3 - Nothing in science, including evolution, makes any theological claims. Evolution does not say that God did not do it, just as in the same way the theory of gravity does not say that God did not do it. Neither of them say God DID do it either, but this does not make them "atheistic". Unless you think otherwise then ALL science is "atheistic" as it NEVER mentions God one way or the other. In which case stop using your atheistic computer made using atheistic science. If science is not atheism then evolution has nothing to do with atheism.

4 - Try as they might no atheists on the planet can disprove God. Because you cannot scientifically falsify a non-scientific non-falsifiable concept. So you don't have to worry since falsification of your invisible magic Jewish wizard will never happen. The same applies to the Cosmic Sheep of course, but...
spirit warrior wrote:
That is evident in your conversations of you saying God myth, false God, the myths of the Bible. The bible predicted around 2000 years ago in 2 Timothy they would do this.
So did every other religion.

See, you think every other religion is BS. Since it stands to reason that if they are BS and they knew that when they invented it, they could "predict" that other people would call them out on it. People have called out your religion in the same manner. This does not mean the prediction was due to Jewish magic. It just means that other people don't believe you because you have no more evidence than the Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Wiccans or whatever. If you did it would have been presented long before now. But your people have failed to demonstrate the validity of your religion over all others for 4,000 years.

That doesn't necessarily mean that (a) God does not exist. It just means you can't prove it.

That's why you preach instead of backing things up with objectively verifiable scientific evidence. We are only interested in science. If your God passes that then we'd be happy to listen. Preaching doesn't cut it.
spirit warrior wrote:
You say this is the wrong forum. How so when 80% of everyone's comments speak of God or the bible in some form either positive or negative, mainly negative. So I believe I posted in the right forum.
That's because creationists reject reality for the sake of their religion. However some are at least attempting to make arguments against science and for their religion. That is not what you are doing. You were engaged in preaching, pure and simple. Now if you have scientific evidence that evolution is wrong or that a magic Jew made it all differently, then present it in the appropriate thread. Otherwise stop preaching.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#7 Oct 22, 2013
spirit warrior wrote:
One cannot deny that every culture, 4000 years ago to over 10,000 years, on every continent, throughout history since man has been able to write and record their lives all have left writings, drawing, sculptures and statues depicting life from above. It all is not passed down knowledge for cultures living during the same time periods while continents apart all share/have similar metaphysics depicting life from above during their lifetime. Culture history and finding tells the story worldwide.
We now have groups of people whose goal is to disprove God in any way they can. We have people teaching/telling others that God is not real. We have people that want to hear and believe God is not real and look for others to support their beliefs and help spread the word of a false God. Look around you, look on this forum, this is what is happening today and has been for a while now.
The bible predicted nearly 2000 years ago that this would happen in 2 Timothy 4:1-4 (1) In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:(2) Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.(3) For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.(4) They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
the bible itself proves the god they attempted to create to be false.

all the other religious cults prove their gods false also.

face it, you all worship proven false idols....

but that is what cults are all about, so have at it, just don't pretend you have anything to share with the rational part of society...

“Don't base what is best”

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#8 Oct 22, 2013
You say one cannot prove God scientifically falsify a non-scientific non-falsifiable concept.

But in your foolishness you blindly demand scientific evidence of a non-scientific non-falsifiable concept. Why do you speak with a forked tongue first saying it is not possible then demanding something that you claim is not possible?

I never said other religions are wrong. I can only speak for the ones I know of. I cannot speak of other religion if I do not know them though they have the same metaphysics. Judging them wrong and saying they are a myth would be the atheist way to do things.

Not once have I said science is atheist. Not once have I said science is bad. I never even spoke of science. I said atheist want to disprove God. It is you that have put atheist and science in the same category in your response. Why is that? Is that what you believe?

“Don't base what is best”

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#9 Oct 22, 2013
You that speaks that all the other religions prove their gods false.

You have studied them all? Which ones you have studied and what findings you came up with. Tell how they are all false from your findings.

Or are you just another atheist that believes any belief of God or a God must be false?

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#10 Oct 22, 2013
Liam R. would say paraphrased

1. the torah/tanakh has mistakes, discussed extensively.

2. But it was all written by Moshe (yep even his death)but some would hold it to be the word of god thus inerrant. Revert to 1.

Jews do not care nor do most religions.

Only Abrahamists climb on the fence.

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#11 Oct 22, 2013
spirit warrior wrote:
You say one cannot prove God scientifically falsify a non-scientific non-falsifiable concept.
But in your foolishness you blindly demand scientific evidence of a non-scientific non-falsifiable concept. Why do you speak with a forked tongue first saying it is not possible then demanding something that you claim is not possible?
I never said other religions are wrong. I can only speak for the ones I know of. I cannot speak of other religion if I do not know them though they have the same metaphysics. Judging them wrong and saying they are a myth would be the atheist way to do things.
Not once have I said science is atheist. Not once have I said science is bad. I never even spoke of science. I said atheist want to disprove God. It is you that have put atheist and science in the same category in your response. Why is that? Is that what you believe?
HUH

This is bound to give trouble: you did just equate GOD with Evolution.

Philosophically an abstraction can not be proven or disproven.
We can only state what it is not.
Or for ever widen the definition.
That's the concept of a god in a nutshell.

Evolution is built of very concrete falsifyable evidence.

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#12 Oct 22, 2013
sopy paste Dude's reply.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#13 Oct 22, 2013
spirit warrior wrote:
You that speaks that all the other religions prove their gods false.
You have studied them all? Which ones you have studied and what findings you came up with. Tell how they are all false from your findings.
Or are you just another atheist that believes any belief of God or a God must be false?
all the religious cults that attempt to create gods fail in actually creating the god they try to, the abrahamic cults,(judaism, christianity, islam) attempt to create an infallible god, yet the bible itself shows the many errors of this 'god'

it is the same with all the other religious cults. this is what happens when humans attempt to create a god...

you worship a false idol...proven fact.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#14 Oct 22, 2013
Christians do worship idols and they cannot see it. They are deaf and blind, which is a spiritual condition. But the living God does exist and could "arrive" on planet earth at any moment. The middle east is set up to accept this God but I wouldn't wish for "the Day of the Lord". It is darkness, gloominess and sudden destruction. We will see the most massive loss of human life in earth history. Isaiah 24:6 "...therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. There is coming a perfect world headed by the Messiah. We will only be given one opportunity to repent.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#15 Oct 23, 2013
spirit warrior wrote:
You say one cannot prove God scientifically falsify a non-scientific non-falsifiable concept.
But in your foolishness you blindly demand scientific evidence of a non-scientific non-falsifiable concept. Why do you speak with a forked tongue first saying it is not possible then demanding something that you claim is not possible?
Because you claim to have evidence. If you have evidence then it can be scientifically evaluated. Then during the course of discussion we discover that whatever you present doesn't actually demonstrate that Jews are invisible and magic. We do this to demonstrate to you that your opinions are NOT scientific. If they are not scientific then they are indistinguishable from BS.

I don't speak with a forked tongue, I leave that to fundies like yourself.
spirit warrior wrote:
I never said other religions are wrong. I can only speak for the ones I know of.
It doesn't matter. If your religion is correct the others can't be. Zeus cannot be real if your God is the real God. All-Father Odin cannot be King of the Gods if Zeus is Lord of the Gods.

But the problem with each and every religion is that no one religion is any more demonstrable than any other.
spirit warrior wrote:
I cannot speak of other religion if I do not know them though they have the same metaphysics.
Metaphysics is another term for made up BS.
spirit warrior wrote:
Judging them wrong and saying they are a myth would be the atheist way to do things.
Depends on the atheist.
spirit warrior wrote:
Not once have I said science is atheist. Not once have I said science is bad. I never even spoke of science.
Actually you did. You lumped atheism with evolution. Evolution IS science. Science is NOT atheistic. Whether or not you personally accept evolution is irrelevant to the fact that it's a valid theory that produces practical results. Just like the theory of gravity.
spirit warrior wrote:
I said atheist want to disprove God.
Some might. Some might not care. Any who try will fail. It's not possible to falsify something that's not scientific. That is why no-one has ever been able to falsify our Lord the Almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster.
spirit warrior wrote:
It is you that have put atheist and science in the same category in your response. Why is that? Is that what you believe?
No. I have not put atheism and science in the same category. In fact quite the opposite. I don't care about atheism. All I argue for is the validity of science. Atheism is irrelevant to the validity of science.

It's just that any time I mention scientific concepts fundies don't like they usually accuse me of arguing for atheism. Pointing out that evolution is correct is not arguing for atheism. It's just pointing out that evolution is correct. God or no God.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#16 Oct 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
Christians do worship idols and they cannot see it. They are deaf and blind, which is a spiritual condition.
And exactly the same applies to you. Your idol is your ego. In all probability it's unlikely that God Herself came down and told you that you are Her chosen prophet.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#17 Oct 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
Christians do worship idols and they cannot see it. They are deaf and blind, which is a spiritual condition. But the living God does exist and could "arrive" on planet earth at any moment. The middle east is set up to accept this God but I wouldn't wish for "the Day of the Lord". It is darkness, gloominess and sudden destruction. We will see the most massive loss of human life in earth history. Isaiah 24:6 "...therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. There is coming a perfect world headed by the Messiah. We will only be given one opportunity to repent.
how can a proven false god create a perfect world? heck he couldn't even get his own creation story correct...
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#18 Oct 23, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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And exactly the same applies to you. Your idol is your ego. In all probability it's unlikely that God Herself came down and told you that you are Her chosen prophet.
God told me who I am by signs. The one that convinced me was the drummer boy. It's not just that it happened or that it happened after my calling began. It was because right before it happened, and I mean right before, I asked God for a sign that would tell me who I am and what religion I am. I stepped out on my balcony and here comes the drummer boy. At that moment, I knew Christianity was a farce and I was the Jewish Messiah. I believe an angel is supposed to appear to me and tell me when VWD Day will be. As soon as I know I'll post it. It will be by the end of 2014.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#19 Oct 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>God told me who I am by signs. The one that convinced me was the drummer boy. It's not just that it happened or that it happened after my calling began. It was because right before it happened, and I mean right before, I asked God for a sign that would tell me who I am and what religion I am. I stepped out on my balcony and here comes the drummer boy. At that moment, I knew Christianity was a farce and I was the Jewish Messiah. I believe an angel is supposed to appear to me and tell me when VWD Day will be. As soon as I know I'll post it. It will be by the end of 2014.
Have you shared this story with your personal physician?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#20 Oct 23, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you shared this story with your personal physician?
I'm tellin' ya man, we've been getting Poe'd for months now...

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