<quoted text>I'd love to see those mechanisms. I certainly haven't seen one that qualifies as a mechanism. I don't believe we do have them; all we have are vague assumptions based on an assumed association of consciousness with matter.
Then I suggest consulting the research on consciousness.
<quoted text> Dude brought up the example of a developing fetus. He says the zygote is not conscious. OK then that means that the bunch of cells that make up the zygote are a bunch of unconscious molecules that are multiplying and increasing in complexity. When does that unconscious blob assume the first aspect of consciousness? After the first neuron is completely formed? After the entire network is formed? What happens at the instant that the blob changes from a completely unconscious thing to something with the slightest bit of "consciousness"? Anybody? Details?
Here you have to pick your definition of consciousness. One possible characteristic of life is that it reacts to its environment. If so then that could be considered to be a type of consciousness. Even plants respond to touch.
<quoted text> There, prove to me it is molecular and not a quantum phenomenon and I might start believing your way
You are free to believe what you want regardless. Look at Urb, he completely ignores science in favor of his favorite myth. Easy peasy. But going with the science there is no reason to rule out neurological connections as being responsible for at least the illusion of consciousness. quantum effects in the brain certainly occur, but suggesting that is the phenomenon we call consciousness is premature at the very least.
Again, what consciousness IS varies with the research. One area you might find interesting are Buddhist researchers working in the area of consciousness.
Of course in Buddhism consciousness is non-symbolic, so liner thinking would be excluded from formulation. It is also not autonomic so would not include things like the brain controlling organs and hormones.
Search for Jeffery Martin and Harvard and research and you should hit pay dirt.