Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 179708 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#148305 Aug 19, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
God's logic is...
Actually, you've got it wrong.

God's logic is: Do whatever the F you want on Earth, just make sure you ask for forgiveness just before you die, then we're all good.

Rape, murder, theft? All perfectly fine so long as you use your get out of jail free card at the last moment.

Meanwhile, lead a perfectly noble and charitable life as a Buddhist, burn in Hell for all eternity.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#148306 Aug 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Imagine in the Bible it says the earth is a circle. Now evolutionist say by that comment in the bible, it is saying earth being flat and not sphere. After all a circle is a coin and it is flat. Now Christians will tell the evolutionists that they are taking the bible too literally. Would you agree?
Lol! Yeah, desperate aren't they? I've seen them try their best to somehow twist the words of the Bible saying the world is flat. If it were known early in the OT that the world was round, then their monkey business would crumble to the ground...because how could those primitive people have known the world is round, unless God inspired their words, right?

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

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#148307 Aug 19, 2013
Believer wrote:
Science is a conglomeration of interpretations, predictions, assumptions, suggestions,
summations and other inconclusive data that come together to form a scientific theory.
Scientists seem reluctant to contradict each other. It must be similar to any other group with a common agenda....you go along with my theory and I'll go along with yours.
If progress isn't being made, there goes the funding.
Anyone who thinks scientists do NOT love to contradict each other has never been near a single scientific conference or academic debate. What a laughable thing to say!

However, one thing is true - they love to contradict each other if they have valid EVIDENCE as grounds to do so. That is what creationists lack, and that is why they are not taken seriously by real scientists.

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#148308 Aug 19, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Lol! Yeah, desperate aren't they? I've seen them try their best to somehow twist the words of the Bible saying the world is flat. If it were known early in the OT that the world was round, then their monkey business would crumble to the ground...because how could those primitive people have known the world is round, unless God inspired their words, right?
Whatever you think about their view of a flat earth, Christian Authorities, going on the word of full-time biblical scholars of the times, were so convinced that the world was flat that they were willing to kill anyone who disagreed as heretics.

Since they presumably wanted to go to heaven themselves, I doubt if they would have done that unless they really believed the Bible said the world is flat.

The Bible does assume a flat earth, but with sufficient ambiguity that NOW, since you cannot argue the point any more, you can pretend that it said the world was a sphere all along.

“Ask Randy From Ballwin”

Level 5

Since: Mar 13

He Is A Sock Know It All

#148309 Aug 19, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Lol! Yeah, desperate aren't they? I've seen them try their best to somehow twist the words of the Bible saying the world is flat. If it were known early in the OT that the world was round, then their monkey business would crumble to the ground...because how could those primitive people have known the world is round, unless God inspired their words, right?
Oh you won't like this answer but have you ever thought that everyone takes the bible too literally? After all it was written by man, from Gods words, but still written by man that makes mistakes in all he does, even in his writtings.
One way or another

United States

#148310 Aug 19, 2013
Funny how scientists are never questioned by the public, with hardball questions. Funny how the so called peer reviews are done only with permission and only by people they want to hear from.

Its just like politicians, doctors and lawyers.

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#148311 Aug 19, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Funny how scientists are never questioned by the public, with hardball questions. Funny how the so called peer reviews are done only with permission and only by people they want to hear from.
Its just like politicians, doctors and lawyers.
Funny how everything you just said is completely false.
Mugwump

UK

#148312 Aug 20, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Funny how scientists are never questioned by the public, with hardball questions. Funny how the so called peer reviews are done only with permission and only by people they want to hear from.
Its just like politicians, doctors and lawyers.
Yeah, the scientific community should use the Jimbo methodology:

10: Post nonsense
20: Ignore anyone who points out flaws
30: sleep 48 hours
40: goto 10

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#148313 Aug 20, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Funny how scientists are never questioned by the public, with hardball questions. Funny how the so called peer reviews are done only with permission and only by people they want to hear from.
Its just like politicians, doctors and lawyers.
Either you believe this and you are woefully ignorant or you don't believe it but are posting it anyway because you enjoy lying.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#148314 Aug 20, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Lol! Yeah, desperate aren't they? I've seen them try their best to somehow twist the words of the Bible saying the world is flat. If it were known early in the OT that the world was round, then their monkey business would crumble to the ground...because how could those primitive people have known the world is round, unless God inspired their words, right?
You are a complete idiot.

The verses that show that the writers of the Bible thought the Earth was flat are pretty definitive. The word used is not only the word for circle, it is the word for an inscribed circle. That is a circle etched into a surface. You don't get much more two dimensional than that. We aren't desperate, we are showing you that if you take one silly part literally there are other even sillier parts you should take literally too.

That is not the only verse that refers to a flat Earth. There are quite a few more. Yet creatards, or at least most creatards have no problem believing in a spherical Earth. You guys are hypocrites.
Level 6

Since: Aug 07

Miami, FL

#148315 Aug 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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You freaking no brained idiot.
The flaw was terrible morals. That was one of the flaws of the Bible.
Or if you had a daughter, who was still a virgin, it would be fine if someone raped her as long as he paid for that and married her.
Does it take practice to be as big of an idiot as your are, or does it come naturally to you?
Yet, no errors. It must suck to be on the losing end all the time.
Level 6

Since: Aug 07

Miami, FL

#148316 Aug 20, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
We have been through this before.
You bash the sciences of biology, geology, physics, and chemistry regularly.
Liar. I bash evotardism. I love science and you can't change that with your lies.
One way or another

United States

#148317 Aug 20, 2013
Notice how the Evo morons don't show proof for their claims. Oh, I guess they all just fergot. Lol
One way or another

United States

#148318 Aug 20, 2013
Lol, scientific conferences and debates? And yet, all of science misses such easy things like the following. They must be morons.

Seeing back in time

Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence

Science proves that two of the same types of light waves cancel each other out. Any stars light waves, can cancel out any other stars light waves or at the least, divert them to where science claims not to know.

The far away light waves never reach us, which means, we see out to those galaxies.

Science claims we are seeing back into time, some 14 billion years ago. Science claims that we can see that far back in time, because the light from those distant worlds and galaxies have been traveling here for those billions of years and that by such, we are looking back in time. That simply cannot be, according to science.

Simple light cannot carry images of those far off worlds and galaxies to our telescopes, meaning, our telescopes see out to those galaxies, disproving relativity, gravitational lensing and light theory.

That's why I said, light cannot carry images of those worlds and galaxies, meaning, if their light speed and theory were true, we could see the light, but not the worlds or galaxies, because images cannot be carried on light, but science proves how much light breaks down in its retro reflector test from the earth to the moon and back. Science itself declares that the further away light gets from its source, the more it breaks down.
Level 6

Since: Aug 07

Miami, FL

#148319 Aug 20, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Whatever you think about their view of a flat earth, Christian Authorities, going on the word of full-time biblical scholars of the times, were so convinced that the world was flat that they were willing to kill anyone who disagreed as heretics.
Since they presumably wanted to go to heaven themselves, I doubt if they would have done that unless they really believed the Bible said the world is flat.
The Bible does assume a flat earth, but with sufficient ambiguity that NOW, since you cannot argue the point any more, you can pretend that it said the world was a sphere all along.
The only people who erroneously think the Bible writers meant the Earth is flat is the hate-filled bigoted Bible-bashers. There is no truth in the flat earth myth at all; it's just more lies perpetuated by the flesh-eating evotarded voodoo Darwin zombees.
One way or another

United States

#148320 Aug 20, 2013
Oops, all of science must have missed another conference.

Seeing galaxies right now

Science by Jim Ryan

Ya know how when you look into a telescope, you see everything that the telescope is focused in on, right away, there's no wait at all. However, science claims that it takes billions of light years for the light from those distant galaxies to get here. If the light takes so long to get here, how come when we look into the telescope, we see those galaxies as soon as we look in the eye piece?

Lets just say that science is right about the light, even though science proves that is a lie, by other means.

Even if the light does get here from those galaxies, those galaxies can't send pictures on just light waves.
One way or another

United States

#148321 Aug 20, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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The only people who erroneously think the Bible writers meant the Earth is flat is the hate-filled bigoted Bible-bashers. There is no truth in the flat earth myth at all; it's just more lies perpetuated by the flesh-eating evotarded voodoo Darwin zombees.
They know that. No one in their right mind could look at the sun or moon and claim the earth is flat. If the earth were flat, it would have to be in the vertical position and everyone would slide off.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#148322 Aug 20, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Oops, all of science must have missed another conference.

Seeing galaxies right now

Science by Jim Ryan

Ya know how when you look into a telescope, you see everything that the telescope is focused in on, right away, there's no wait at all. However, science claims that it takes billions of light years for the light from those distant galaxies to get here. If the light takes so long to get here, how come when we look into the telescope, we see those galaxies as soon as we look in the eye piece?

Lets just say that science is right about the light, even though science proves that is a lie, by other means.

Even if the light does get here from those galaxies, those galaxies can't send pictures on just light waves.
Yeah.

Tell you what: show up to one of those scientific conferences, present your "New Science", and tell us how that works out for you.
Mugwump

UK

#148323 Aug 20, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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They know that. No one in their right mind could look at the sun or moon and claim the earth is flat. If the earth were flat, it would have to be in the vertical position and everyone would slide off.
Comedy gold

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#148324 Aug 20, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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You don't know where everything came from.
You don't know where the origin of life began.
You don't know where time came from.
You don't understand where DNA came from.
I have a very good answer to all of these major problems your religion has not yet conquered, but you'd rather deny it exist.
Oh well, have it your way. I give up on you. Too many people over too many years have told you the truth about God, but you want to be defiant. Have at it. It's your loss not mine.
You have no answers. You have beliefs. And that's fine but don't pretend that you are the keeper of knowledge.

Science, in the mean time, will continue to search for answers. Something you seems to have a problem with for some reason.

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