Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180369 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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One way or another

United States

#148092 Aug 18, 2013
When none commend new and or intelligent thinking, almost none will recognize such. That way, the morons of the world and the bribed scientists, will have plenty of company.

“That's just MY opinion...”

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#148093 Aug 18, 2013
MikeF wrote:
I've never met anyone so damn proud of their own stupidity as Jim Ryan.
Given his life's record of dismal failures, he must be very excited to have found an area in which he can excel.
Mugwump

UK

#148094 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Not only can the Evo morons not refute my work, but neither can anyone else here. However, the Evo morons are the only ones crying about it. Lol
Take an old film slide if you have one.

Shine a torch through it at a wall.

Now either

A) explain how that works if (according to you) light can't carry images

B) stop insisting no-one can refute your 'work'

No one really cares if you go for A) or B) but your cowardly insistence on not supporting your nonsense is getting tiresome.
One way or another

United States

#148095 Aug 18, 2013
Gosh, I didn't know that stars had old film. Lmao

Its just so difficult to believe that there can be people that are really this stupid.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#148098 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Gosh, I didn't know that stars had old film. Lmao
Its just so difficult to believe that there can be people that are really this stupid.
Yes.

But here you are.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#148099 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Here ya go morons, get yer favorite flashlight, point it at a star and then point it at a telescope and tell us what you and the morons in science see.
Frikken evo morons and good Christians,, you are constantly destroying children's abilities.
Well, I point it at the star and I see the star, I point it at the telescope, I see nothing, it is dark out.

Oh! Did you mean I should turn it on? Gee how did I see the star then?
One way or another

United States

#148100 Aug 18, 2013
So called good people not only allow such, they help it to prosper, because you are cowards, that do as you have been told, too afraid to stand on your own two feet, staying quiet as the internal innuendo demands.

Your children mean nothing, because you are cowards. You condemn them.

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#148101 Aug 18, 2013
urb wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical bs reponse from a flesh eating evotarded voodoo darwin zombee. You got nothing!
?

I was pointing out that the posters information was incorrect.

In order to claim my response is "bs", you would need to show that there are 2 million human proteins and/or that there are only 23,000 genes in the entire rest of biology.

Good luck with either of those claims, as both are false.

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#148102 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Your children mean nothing, because you are cowards.
Your religion glorifies the murder of children.

Glass houses.
One way or another

United States

#148103 Aug 18, 2013
Morons claim that because others do it, its ok for them to do it.

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#148105 Aug 18, 2013
Urb in the Smokies wrote:
I think I have found the limits of genetic variation. It may have something to do with the fact that we have discovered some 2,000,000 different proteins but only 23,000 different human genes. That suggests that on average each gene can code for 86 different proteins! Each gene is a set nucleotide sequence initially as a messenger RNA (mRNA) but soon after transcription before it is escorted out of the nucleus and then again after it is escorted to its respective/assigned ribosomes in the golgi apparatus, control miRNAs (formally thought of as "junk") splice, trim, customize, and prepare the final transfer RNA (tRNA) for final transcription in the finished 3-dimensional finished protein product. Of course I've left out numerous error-checking and quality control checks. But this shows clearly that one particular loci nucleotide sequence can result in numerous variations of a final folded protein product. The limit being found as stated above.
Interesting point and yes you are right...

"One gene can encode more than one protein (even up to 1,000). The human genome contains about 21,000 protein-encoding genes, but the total number of proteins in human cells is estimated to be between 250,000 to one million."

According to:
http://proteomics.cancer.gov/whatisproteomics

Still, your I do not see your conclusion following from the facts.

You still assume that either complexity is impossible for evolution to generate, or that the complexity we see is irreducible, or that this kind of complexity must lead to a sort of rigidity.

Now demonstrate why any of these things must be true.

I can even make an opposite point. You guys argue some absurdly high figure for the number of mutations that would be required to turn a chimp into a man or a "cow into a whale". Yet if one mutation can affect multiple proteins, that is another reason why this argument would be turned on its head. One mutation might have multiple effects throughout the system.

All speculation of course, but that is what we are doing here, speculating from the facts.

Enjoy your holiday.

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#148106 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Morons claim that because others do it, its ok for them to do it.
Yup, that's the basis of all religion.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#148107 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
No one could argue with that. And we all know that all laws should be applied to all people equally and protect the life, liberty, and persuit of happiness of ALL citizens equally!
Separation of church and state. Keep religious marriage vows within the church. Religious marriage ceremonies have nothing to do with the government. Why is the government meddling in the rights of pastors and churches to decide what religious ceremonies they will perform.
You guys are so smart, can't you propose a compromise that would protect the church and the homosexuals who want rights as family members in financial and healthcare decisions of a loved one.
My heart goes out to decent people who are truly being persecuted for any reason. The laws should protect all of us from physical,emotional, financial, or religious persecution.
If I were a pastor of a church being forced to perform ceremonies that were contrary to my beliefs as a pastor, I would feel my religious freedoms were being infringed upon.
If a pastor and church chooses to perform same sex marriages, that is their business also.
Christian chaplains in our armed services are being told by the government they cannot pray with a group of Christian soldiers " in the name of Jesus."
Do you see any problem there?

The problem I see here is that someone has lied to you.

NO ONE has proposed that ANY clergy member be mandated to preform a marriage that they don't want to preform.

NO ONE

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#148108 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
It was under the impression that it is happening. Churches being sued, caterers being sued, photographers being sued. If I am wrong I'd like to know!
Chaplains in armed forces being told how to pray?
Have a spiritual advisor for every faith represented in the armed services. Don't infringe on the right of a Christian Chaplain to invoke the name of Christ in a prayer with other Christians.
I believe all this is going on. I hope I am mistaken!

The only issue is churches. They are free to preform or not preform any religious ceremony.

A chaplain is required to attend to the religious needs of all service members.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Level 1

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#148109 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
Praying in the name of Jesus is not praying FOR Jesus.
Jesus is our intercessor/ advocate with God the Father. We pray in the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus, to God the Father.
Hey, gut stomper! Burn any witches lately, or just a few good books?

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#148110 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Chimney and the evolutionists trying to usurp the power of Christian votes lie constantly.
Science is lying/proof
Read the one page at the following site and see if you can point out the purposeful lie by science.
http://www.businessinsider.com/high-quality-n ...
The eye sockets of Neanderthal are huge, while their depiction on this site are small.
Science is treating all as if we are idiots, too stupid to think for ourselves.
How big does something need to be, and how fast must it spin, and how much mass should it have, and what shape should it be, to generate gravitational pull? Please, show your work, or else the Nobel committee won't consider it.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#148111 Aug 18, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
<quoted text>
Take an old film slide if you have one.
Shine a torch through it at a wall.
Now either
A) explain how that works if (according to you) light can't carry images
B) stop insisting no-one can refute your 'work'
No one really cares if you go for A) or B) but your cowardly insistence on not supporting your nonsense is getting tiresome.
In America, they're called "flashlights." Torches are wooden sticks with a flame on the end. You don't want the resident dunce setting himself ablaze, do you?
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#148112 Aug 18, 2013
If you want to see where Darwin's evolution and science have taken us, down the wrong road of survival of the fittest or race hygiene, just watch this documentary.

"Homo Sapiens 1900"

Darwin contributed to hitler's idea of killing off all the Jews he could find. Pure satanic ideas.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#148113 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Actually UC is the only decent person I see here.
The opinions of crackheads and crackpots are not taken seriously.

How hot is 1 lumen?

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#148114 Aug 18, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
In America, they're called "flashlights." Torches are wooden sticks with a flame on the end. You don't want the resident dunce setting himself ablaze, do you?
Another cunning plan foiled. You love Jim, deep down, dontcha.

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