Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180279 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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#148058 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
Chimney and the evolutionists trying to usurp the power of Christian votes lie constantly.
Science is lying/proof
Read the one page at the following site and see if you can point out the purposeful lie by science.
http://www.businessinsider.com/high-quality-n ...
The eye sockets of Neanderthal are huge, while their depiction on this site are small.
Science is treating all as if we are idiots, too stupid to think for ourselves.
Yeah this is about the 200th time you have accused me of lying and yet in over 3 years you have never once pinpointed an actual lie.

Do you know what they call someone who makes continual unproven accusations about others? You are a filthy little sleazebag and everyone here knows it.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#148059 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
You twisted everything I said in order to call me a hypocrite.
It is my opinion that you hate the a christian religion because as a gay person you feel you are bring persecuted by Christians.
If you are being persecuted, it is not by Christians! Stop the hate, and abide by the laws of the land as the rest of us have to do!
Me, me, me.... It is all some people care about. You have the same rights as the rest of Americans. What you want is special treatment. The right to take a Faith you admit you don't believe in and use it to make a point to satisfy your pride.
We are all rejected somewhere by someone for some reason. Get over yourself and live your private life however you want to in private. Get legal rights that married people have through civil union laws and leave the churches that do not want to be involved out of it!

Bad laws need to be changed and not abided by.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#148060 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
Shame on you both! Those owners of slaves who treated the slaves like animals or considered their slaves to be inferior human beings would not have been Christians (IMHO)
Slavery was a terrible injustice no matter how you try to explain it. We don't need to fight that war again!
Drug dealers are today's slave makers. What have either of you done about that problem?

No true Scotsman....
One way or another

Sarasota, FL

#148061 Aug 18, 2013
Evo usurped 2 definitions

Hey, you mental Evo midgets, evolution has usurped two definitions, because evoisim is short for thieving morons. Neither one has anything to do with evotardism.
a·dapt
/&#601;&#712;dapt/
Verb
Make (something) suitable for a new use or purpose; modify.
Become adjusted to new conditions.
Synonyms
adjust - fit - accommodate - conform - suit
e·volve
/i&#712;välv/
Verb
Develop gradually, esp. from a simple to a more complex form.
(with reference to an organism or biological feature) Develop over successive generations, esp. as a result of natural selection.
Synonyms
develop - expand - unfold

Then the Evo morons hijack the words, natural and selection

nat·u·ral
/&#712;naCH&#601;r &#601;l/
Adjective
Existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.
Noun
A person regarded as having an innate gift or talent for a particular task or activity.
Adverb
Naturally: "keep walking—just act natural".

se·lec·tion
/s&#601;&#712;lekSH &#601;n/
Noun
The action or fact of carefully choosing someone or something as being the best or most suitable.
A number of carefully chosen things.
Synonyms
choice - pick - option - election - assortment - picking

The word evolution has nothing to do with the other words here, its just more deceit by the evos controlling science.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#148062 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you don't think a Christian Minister should be free to decide whether or not he will perform same sex marriages?
Where did HS freedom of religion rights go. Oh yeah, I guess the government is taking his rights away so the homosexuals can insist he perform a ceremony or go to jail!

I don't usually use the little rating icons, but I got to give you a 'nuts' for this.

I have never heard anyone EVERY suggest churches be mandated to preform any service against its will.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#148063 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
1. No thank God! But my point is true. In Iran you would not be allowed a Muslim wedding because you would already have been hanged for wanting one.
I am not judging homosexuals. But, once you succeed in getting God out of government (Christians out of congress.... Looks like we've already gotten most of them out of the White House) you will not have anyone questioning Gay Marriage of any kind.
Lets just hope the Christians aren't replaced by radicals who want to kill you for being gay and me for being Christian!
Who's trying to make any Christian churches perform same-sex marriage ceremonies?

For that matter, if you want God in government, would you approve of letting Muslims make THEIR version of God the one in government? Or, is it a Jews and Christians Only club? Whose god/gods do you allow and whose don't you and why? How does that not directly violate the First Amendment, which you apparently still haven't read?

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Since: Nov 07

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#148064 Aug 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep. If a young lady catches your eye and you want to marry her all you have to do is to force yourself upon her and pay her father a nominal fee.
What a deal, much better than eharmony.com .
From Deuteronomy 22:
<quoted text>
Choose wisely, there is no divorce.

That is about $625 (based on the average weight of a shekel and the current prices of silver)

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#148065 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
You twisted everything I said in order to call me a hypocrite.
It is my opinion that you hate the a christian religion because as a gay person you feel you are bring persecuted by Christians.
If you are being persecuted, it is not by Christians! Stop the hate, and abide by the laws of the land as the rest of us have to do!
So, if the laws of the land said that Christians had to pay twice as much in taxes as everyone else, you wouldn't seek to change the law, and you'd just pay twice as much without so much as a peep?
Believer wrote:
Me, me, me.... It is all some people care about.
Better than focusing on the mote in other people's eyes.
Believer wrote:
You have the same rights as the rest of Americans. What you want is special treatment.
That's what anti-miscegenation advocates said, too.
Believer wrote:
The right to take a Faith you admit you don't believe in and use it to make a point to satisfy your pride.
That's what anti-miscegenation advocates said, too.
Believer wrote:
We are all rejected somewhere by someone for some reason. Get over yourself and live your private life however you want to in private. Get legal rights that married people have through civil union laws and leave the churches that do not want to be involved out of it!
Since when does marriage require any religious institution? Are all judges, justices of the peace, ship captains, and the like considered religious representatives in your book? For that matter, since when does marriage even require a ceremony? Get the certificate at city hall and you're married. The "I do" stuff is ritual, not official. It's not the ceremony that makes someone married to someone else. At least, not in America, and not legally.
Here's a novel idea: stop being a moron.
Believer

Manchester, TN

#148066 Aug 18, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
Bad laws need to be changed and not abided by.
No one could argue with that. And we all know that all laws should be applied to all people equally and protect the life, liberty, and persuit of happiness of ALL citizens equally!

Separation of church and state. Keep religious marriage vows within the church. Religious marriage ceremonies have nothing to do with the government. Why is the government meddling in the rights of pastors and churches to decide what religious ceremonies they will perform.

You guys are so smart, can't you propose a compromise that would protect the church and the homosexuals who want rights as family members in financial and healthcare decisions of a loved one.

My heart goes out to decent people who are truly being persecuted for any reason. The laws should protect all of us from physical,emotional, financial, or religious persecution.

If I were a pastor of a church being forced to perform ceremonies that were contrary to my beliefs as a pastor, I would feel my religious freedoms were being infringed upon.
If a pastor and church chooses to perform same sex marriages, that is their business also.

Christian chaplains in our armed services are being told by the government they cannot pray with a group of Christian soldiers " in the name of Jesus."
Do you see any problem there?

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#148067 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
Shame on you both! Those owners of slaves who treated the slaves like animals or considered their slaves to be inferior human beings would not have been Christians (IMHO)
Slavery was a terrible injustice no matter how you try to explain it. We don't need to fight that war again!
Drug dealers are today's slave makers. What have either of you done about that problem?
Shame on you. Willful ignorance is neither an excuse nor a virtue.
Believer

Manchester, TN

#148068 Aug 18, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't usually use the little rating icons, but I got to give you a 'nuts' for this.
I have never heard anyone EVERY suggest churches be mandated to preform any service against its will.
It was under the impression that it is happening. Churches being sued, caterers being sued, photographers being sued. If I am wrong I'd like to know!
Chaplains in armed forces being told how to pray?
Have a spiritual advisor for every faith represented in the armed services. Don't infringe on the right of a Christian Chaplain to invoke the name of Christ in a prayer with other Christians.

I believe all this is going on. I hope I am mistaken!
Believer

Manchester, TN

#148069 Aug 18, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Shame on you. Willful ignorance is neither an excuse nor a virtue.
Shame on both of us!

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#148070 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
No one could argue with that. And we all know that all laws should be applied to all people equally and protect the life, liberty, and persuit of happiness of ALL citizens equally!
Separation of church and state. Keep religious marriage vows within the church. Religious marriage ceremonies have nothing to do with the government. Why is the government meddling in the rights of pastors and churches to decide what religious ceremonies they will perform.
You guys are so smart, can't you propose a compromise that would protect the church and the homosexuals who want rights as family members in financial and healthcare decisions of a loved one.
My heart goes out to decent people who are truly being persecuted for any reason. The laws should protect all of us from physical,emotional, financial, or religious persecution.
If I were a pastor of a church being forced to perform ceremonies that were contrary to my beliefs as a pastor, I would feel my religious freedoms were being infringed upon.
If a pastor and church chooses to perform same sex marriages, that is their business also.
Christian chaplains in our armed services are being told by the government they cannot pray with a group of Christian soldiers " in the name of Jesus."
Do you see any problem there?
Again, WHO says that the government is or will force preachers to perform any services of any kind? Please be specific.
Again, read the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution that every member of the military is sworn to support and defend.
Again, where and when did Jesus say to pray to him?
Again, willful ignorance is neither an excuse nor a virtue.
Believer

Manchester, TN

#148071 Aug 18, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
So, if the laws of the land said that Christians had to pay twice as much in taxes as everyone else, you wouldn't seek to change the law, and you'd just pay twice as much without so much as a peep?
<quoted text>
Better than focusing on the mote in other people's eyes.
<quoted text>
That's what anti-miscegenation advocates said, too.
<quoted text>
That's what anti-miscegenation advocates said, too.
<quoted text>
Since when does marriage require any religious institution? Are all judges, justices of the peace, ship captains, and the like considered religious representatives in your book? For that matter, since when does marriage even require a ceremony? Get the certificate at city hall and you're married. The "I do" stuff is ritual, not official. It's not the ceremony that makes someone married to someone else. At least, not in America, and not legally.
Here's a novel idea: stop being a moron.
I agree 100% with your last paragraph. Separation of church and state! State stop meddling in churches right to perform ceremonies that conform to its beliefs. Not politically correct agendas.
Believer

Manchester, TN

#148072 Aug 18, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I don't traffic in humans for a start. I don't twist the Bible to support it. I don't even use the Bible as written in most versions to support it. I haven't moved on to twist the Bible to support any other aberrant behavior, like deciding who or who is not Christian or lying.
Ditto! Never intended to be guilty of any of the above, or riding a high horse!
Believer

Manchester, TN

#148073 Aug 18, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, WHO says that the government is or will force preachers to perform any services of any kind? Please be specific.
Again, read the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution that every member of the military is sworn to support and defend.
Again, where and when did Jesus say to pray to him?
Again, willful ignorance is neither an excuse nor a virtue.
Praying in the name of Jesus is not praying FOR Jesus.
Jesus is our intercessor/ advocate with God the Father. We pray in the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus, to God the Father.

“See how you are?”

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#148074 Aug 18, 2013
Believer wrote:
<quoted text>
Praying in the name of Jesus is not praying FOR Jesus.
Jesus is our intercessor/ advocate with God the Father. We pray in the Holy Spirit, in the name of Jesus, to God the Father.
Stop cherry picking the questions and actualities that you want to wheedle inaccurate protestations to.
What spurred the creation of the Southern Baptists?
Exactly >who< told you preachers will be forced to perform ceremonies?
What part of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" do you think excludes Christianity over Islam, Hinduism or even atheism?
What part of the 9th commandment do you not understand? Christians idolize the Bible and pray to Jesus. Don't lie about it.
Urb in the Smokies

Johnson City, TN

#148075 Aug 18, 2013
I think I have found the limits of genetic variation. It may have something to do with the fact that we have discovered some 2,000,000 different proteins but only 23,000 different human genes. That suggests that on average each gene can code for 86 different proteins! Each gene is a set nucleotide sequence initially as a messenger RNA (mRNA) but soon after transcription before it is escorted out of the nucleus and then again after it is escorted to its respective/assigned ribosomes in the golgi apparatus, control miRNAs (formally thought of as "junk") splice, trim, customize, and prepare the final transfer RNA (tRNA) for final transcription in the finished 3-dimensional finished protein product. Of course I've left out numerous error-checking and quality control checks. But this shows clearly that one particular loci nucleotide sequence can result in numerous variations of a final folded protein product. The limit being found as stated above.
Urb in the Smokies

Johnson City, TN

#148076 Aug 18, 2013
Having fun at the "2nd Annual Smokey Mountain Songwriters Festival". Getting tips on how to write, compose, and get a song cut. Hiking trails every day. Saw 2 bears (one outside a restaurant), 1 turkey, numerous deer, and a copperhead snake. This is the most beautiful place on Earth. Also, the 17 year Cicadas are going nuts!

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#148077 Aug 18, 2013
One way or another wrote:
The word evolution has nothing to do with the other words here, its just more deceit by the evos controlling science.
Honestly, if you believe this is a valid form of argument, there's nothing any of us can do to get through to you.

You don't have the requisite intelligence to have this discussion.

It's like arguing with a turtle.

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