Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 179702 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130496 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Gillette wrote:
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. So far, science can explain everything by natural means, so we'll leave the supernatural hand-waving and Arguments From Incredulity to you guys.
Gillette had the gaul to claim that "So far, science can explain everything by natural means..."
I pointed out something that it cannot explain, and you throw a hissy fit.
Telling stories is not science.
Saying "evolutiondidit" is not science.
Yes, so far he is right. And my statement still stands, ask a specialist if we cannot answer a question. To be precise there are a lot of partially answered questions out there. There is nothing that indicates a supernatural being had anything to do with.

Telling stories is what you do. To the uneducated, and this means you HST, some aspects of evolution may seem like "story telling". I assure you it is not. Instead of calling it story telling why not ask the people who made the statements you don't like about those particular statements. You will never learn anything by lying.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#130497 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Gillette wrote:
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. So far, science can explain everything by natural means, so we'll leave the supernatural hand-waving and Arguments From Incredulity to you guys.
Gillette had the gaul to claim that "So far, science can explain everything by natural means..."
I pointed out something that it cannot explain, and you throw a hissy fit.
Telling stories is not science.
Saying "evolutiondidit" is not science.
"Evolution did it" is your argument, not something any scientist has ever said. Evolution does not "do" anything, it happens, things evolve.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#130498 May 18, 2013
defender wrote:
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This is even better than Kong's metabolism theory!
....excuse me?

What is my "metabolism theory"?

Please remind me.

Thank you.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#130499 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Tell me how "science" can explain the evolution of migratory instincts in whales when no one even understands them.
I need more than "evolutiondidit"
You don't need anything except Goddidit with magic. After all, you are only just another liar for Jesus.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#130500 May 18, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Likewise (and equally foolish) is the fact that the earth is made up of 133,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000 atoms (1.33*10^50).
There is nothing man has ever designed or ever hopes to design that even comes remotely close to that number.
So what?
I wonder how many lines of code and content are the internet? Just sayin ....
Mugwump

Rochdale, UK

#130501 May 18, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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....excuse me?
What is my "metabolism theory"?
Please remind me.
Thank you.
It's pretty simple

It's a (vaguely) scientific word 'metabolism'

Combined with denial

Works all the time

how can you not get this :-)

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#130502 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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I'm interested in science, not what is popular.
You have not provided one iota of scientific evidence to back up your evo-fairytales.

Denialism.

You can't provide anything so you simply deny everything. You never offer any evidence at all and simply hand wave away any that is presented to you.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#130503 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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I'm interested in science, not what is popular.
This is your only lame, silly response to a detailed exposition by Baptist fundamentalist Christian scientists who teach at the world's largest Baptist university and who say evolution is, in effect, a PROVEN FACT?

I mean, these are Jesus-believing, SAVED CHRISTIANS telling you you are dead WRONG! LOL!!!!
HTS wrote:
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You have not provided one iota of scientific evidence to back up your evo-fairytales.
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#130504 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Gillette had the gaul to claim that "So far, science can explain everything by natural means..."
It's "gall" you uneducated moron. Gaul was an ancient province of the roman empire conquered by Julius Caesar.

And I misspoke myself earlier. What intended to say is that "everything science is actively studying can so far be explained by natural means," not that "science can explain everything..."
HTS

Mandan, ND

#130505 May 18, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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This is your only lame, silly response to a detailed exposition by Baptist fundamentalist Christian scientists who teach at the world's largest Baptist university and who say evolution is, in effect, a PROVEN FACT?
I mean, these are Jesus-believing, SAVED CHRISTIANS telling you you are dead WRONG! LOL!!!!
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29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
Macroevolution is not a proven fact. It is not even a decent theory,
I've read most of 29+ evidences from talkorigins.
I does not provide a shred of scientific evidence for evolution. Everything is founded on metaphysical assumptions.
HTS

Mandan, ND

#130506 May 18, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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It's "gall" you uneducated moron. Gaul was an ancient province of the roman empire conquered by Julius Caesar.
And I misspoke myself earlier. What intended to say is that "everything science is actively studying can so far be explained by natural means," not that "science can explain everything..."
Wrong again.
Active study of abiogenesis is ongoing.
Science cannot come close to explaining the origin of life.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130507 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Macroevolution is not a proven fact. It is not even a decent theory,
I've read most of 29+ evidences from talkorigins.
I does not provide a shred of scientific evidence for evolution. Everything is founded on metaphysical assumptions.
You keep forgetting, you have no idea what is and what is not scientific evidence.

Since you refuse to learn you will have to trust us when we say that there are literally mountains of evidence that support the theory of evolution.
LowellGuy

United States

#130508 May 18, 2013
defender wrote:
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Umm no... By the current model we would all have green skin,no teeth (wouldn't need em) and gills on the side of our necks... Something must have happened on the way to heaven I guess...
The current model supposes no such thing. Why do you lie?
HTS

Mandan, ND

#130509 May 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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You keep forgetting, you have no idea what is and what is not scientific evidence.
Since you refuse to learn you will have to trust us when we say that there are literally mountains of evidence that support the theory of evolution.
There you go again, SZ...
Blindly parroting the same regurgitated BS.
You might consider actually presenting some science behind your ridiculous claims.
That will be virtually impossible,, given the fact that you haven't a clue what scientific evidence is.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130510 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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There you go again, SZ...
Blindly parroting the same regurgitated BS.
You might consider actually presenting some science behind your ridiculous claims.
That will be virtually impossible,, given the fact that you haven't a clue what scientific evidence is.
How's That for Stupid, you are once again lying and using terms that you don't understand.

I have offered, very nicely at first, to help you to understand what is evidence after you tried to deny obvious evidence for the theory of evolution.

Remember the cost has gone up to you. If you want to learn you have to apologize for being an idiot first.

I am still willing to help you even though you probably will be an idiot for life.
HTS

Mandan, ND

#130511 May 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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How's That for Stupid, you are once again lying and using terms that you don't understand.
I have offered, very nicely at first, to help you to understand what is evidence after you tried to deny obvious evidence for the theory of evolution.
Remember the cost has gone up to you. If you want to learn you have to apologize for being an idiot first.
I am still willing to help you even though you probably will be an idiot for life.
Are you a broken record?
I challenge you repeatedly to offer some scientific evidence for evolution.
Predictably, you throw a fit and attack my credentials.
I am unimpressed.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#130512 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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There you go again, SZ...
Blindly parroting the same regurgitated BS.
You might consider actually presenting some science behind your ridiculous claims.
That will be virtually impossible,, given the fact that you haven't a clue what scientific evidence is.
Translation to English: You have no idea what reality is so you just accuse everyone else of not knowing what it is to cover up the fact that you just like to make it all up as you go.
HTS

Mandan, ND

#130513 May 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Translation to English: You have no idea what reality is so you just accuse everyone else of not knowing what it is to cover up the fact that you just like to make it all up as you go.
As is the case with SZ, you cannot logically refute any of my claims. All you can do is jump on the same bandwagon with the rest of the evo-morons on this forum and keep convincing yourself that your atheistic religion conforms to science.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130514 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Are you a broken record?
I challenge you repeatedly to offer some scientific evidence for evolution.
Predictably, you throw a fit and attack my credentials.
I am unimpressed.
Goddamn, you are a fvcking idiot aren't you?

How many times do I have to point out that you failed numerous times by rejecting undeniable evidence for evolution. I don't mind debating a Christian about evolution. I will not debate against a total idiot.

I more than kindly offered to teach you what scientific evidence is and you rejected the offer.

Until you demonstrate that you know what scientific evidence is there is no point in giving you any. You will simply deny it.

And you have no credentials here, at least no positive ones. You have only earned the credentials of "Number One Azzhole", "Idiot of the Year" and other such awards.

Seriously, if you let me help you you would not be a laughing stock of the internet.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#130515 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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As is the case with SZ, you cannot logically refute any of my claims. All you can do is jump on the same bandwagon with the rest of the evo-morons on this forum and keep convincing yourself that your atheistic religion conforms to science.
Still projecting as well, I see.

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