Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180369 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130482 May 18, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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And I'm still waiting for you first actual "bust".
You are an ignorant git who would not recognize a bust if it rolled over you like a steamroller. In fact that has happened many times.

You have never made one valid argument against evolution. You are an amazing bundle of "wrong".

But then that is true of most creatards. That is why the "tard" is so often attached to the description of them.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130483 May 18, 2013
defender wrote:
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You can count to four?... All by yourself?
In other words defender knows he is spewing bullshit.

Another liar for Jesus.

Pathetic.
defender

United States

#130484 May 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>So you are saying life does not evolve but that life does evolve. That's a contradiction, and though religious myth can get away with such nonsense, science cannot. Life either evolves or it does not, if it did not, we'd all look identical.
Umm no... By the current model we would all have green skin,no teeth (wouldn't need em) and gills on the side of our necks... Something must have happened on the way to heaven I guess...
defender

United States

#130485 May 18, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>His head revolves, sorta like Linda Blair. It's not demonic, he just weird like that.
Once again nothing from you... Google not responding?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#130486 May 18, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Average human body has 100 trillion cells and each cell as DNA containing 6 billion nucleotides. So 6 billion times 100 trillion equals 6 X 10^23 nucleotides in the human body. There is nothing man has ever designed or ever hopes to design that even comes remotely close to that number.
I agree, biological organisms are nothing at all like design.

(shrug)
Level 6

Since: Aug 07

Miami, FL

#130487 May 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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You are an ignorant git who would not recognize a bust if it rolled over you like a steamroller. In fact that has happened many times.
You have never made one valid argument against evolution. You are an amazing bundle of "wrong".
But then that is true of most creatards. That is why the "tard" is so often attached to the description of them.
But you can't actually argue or refute anything. Got it.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#130488 May 18, 2013
defender wrote:
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Umm no... By the current model we would all have green skin,no teeth (wouldn't need em) and gills on the side of our necks... Something must have happened on the way to heaven I guess...
Do you proof read anything before you post? Could you perhaps translate your thoughts into plain English? Much obliged.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130489 May 18, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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But you can't actually argue or refute anything. Got it.
Wrong again, I have refuted you, Kong has refuted you, KittenKoder has refuted you. Heck the newspaper boy could probably refute you.

You have brought nothing to this site except for the most worn out old lies. I am looking for something new and interesting.
HTS

Mandan, ND

#130490 May 18, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Really? Tell that to the evangelical Christians at Baylor University, the "largest Baptist University in the world," where the students go on mission trips, etc.
This is from the Biology Department at Baylor:
http://www.baylor.edu/biology/index.php...
Statement on Evolution
"Evolution, a foundational principle of modern biology, is supported by overwhelming scientific evidence and is accepted by the vast majority of scientists. Because it is fundamental to the understanding of modern biology, the faculty in the Biology Department at Baylor University, Waco, TX, teach evolution throughout the biology curriculum. We are in accordance with the American Association for Advancement of Science's statement on evolution. We are a science department, so we do not teach alternative hypotheses or philosophically deduced theories that cannot be tested rigorously."
Also, here from the Baylor Geology Department:
http://www.baylor.edu/geology/index.php...
Quote:
"Question: Does the fossil record support the idea of biological change over time (biological evolution)?
Yes. The fossil record clearly indicates...
a progression in complexity of organisms from very simple fossil forms in the oldest rocks (>3.5 billion years old) to a broad spectrum from simple to complex forms in younger rocks,
that some organisms that were once common are now extinct, and
that the living organisms inhabiting our world today are similar (but generally not the same) as organisms represented as fossils in young sedimentary deposits, which in turn have evolutionary ancestors represented as fossils in yet older rocks.
Mammals, for example, are prevalent today and can be traced back in the fossil record for approximately 200 million years, but are not present as mammals in the fossil record before that; however, fossil forms that have reasonably been interpreted to be associated with the evolutionary precursors to mammals are found in older rocks.
Whether biological evolution occurs has not been a matter of scientific debate for more than a century. It is considered a proven fact."
End quote
I'm interested in science, not what is popular.
You have not provided one iota of scientific evidence to back up your evo-fairytales.
HTS

Mandan, ND

#130491 May 18, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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. So far, science can explain everything by natural means, so we'll leave the supernatural hand-waving and Arguments From Incredulity to you guys.
Tell me how "science" can explain the evolution of migratory instincts in whales when no one even understands them.

I need more than "evolutiondidit"

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130492 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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I'm interested in science, not what is popular.
You have not provided one iota of scientific evidence to back up your evo-fairytales.
Lies.

You don't know what science is. You have even rejected offers to help you to understand science.

You are a little twit that keeps himself willfully ignorant and then tries to argue against science. You could not be a bigger hypocrite.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130493 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Tell me how "science" can explain the evolution of migratory instincts in whales when no one even understands them.
I need more than "evolutiondidit"
Idiot, sometimes for specific answers you need to go to a specialist.

And even if no one could answer your question now that in no way invalidates the theory of evolution.

Here is a hint for you, to debunk a theory the aim is not to find questions that the theory cannot answer yet. That fact is neither evidence for or against the theory. You have to find a question that it answers incorrectly.

The fact that you cannot find any questions that evolution answers incorrectly is evidence that the theory is correct.

And do you want an example of when and where this has happened in the past? Here goes:

Newton's theory of gravity had a well known problem at the end of the 19th century. Mercury's orbit was "wrong". That is the precession of the orbit did not quite follow the predictions from Newton. It was a place where Newton's Law of Gravity was wrong. It took Einstein's theory of gravity to explain it correctly.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#130494 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Tell me how "science" can explain the evolution of migratory instincts in whales when no one even understands them.
I need more than "evolutiondidit"
Please, Google everything you are going to post from now on.

Here, I'll help http://scholar.google.com/scholar...
HTS

Mandan, ND

#130495 May 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Idiot, sometimes for specific answers you need to go to a specialist.
And even if no one could answer your question now that in no way invalidates the theory of evolution.
Here is a hint for you, to debunk a theory the aim is not to find questions that the theory cannot answer yet. That fact is neither evidence for or against the theory. You have to find a question that it answers incorrectly.
The fact that you cannot find any questions that evolution answers incorrectly is evidence that the theory is correct.
And do you want an example of when and where this has happened in the past? Here goes:
Newton's theory of gravity had a well known problem at the end of the 19th century. Mercury's orbit was "wrong". That is the precession of the orbit did not quite follow the predictions from Newton. It was a place where Newton's Law of Gravity was wrong. It took Einstein's theory of gravity to explain it correctly.
Gillette wrote:
<quoted text>

. So far, science can explain everything by natural means, so we'll leave the supernatural hand-waving and Arguments From Incredulity to you guys.

Gillette had the gaul to claim that "So far, science can explain everything by natural means..."

I pointed out something that it cannot explain, and you throw a hissy fit.

Telling stories is not science.
Saying "evolutiondidit" is not science.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#130496 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Gillette wrote:
<quoted text>
. So far, science can explain everything by natural means, so we'll leave the supernatural hand-waving and Arguments From Incredulity to you guys.
Gillette had the gaul to claim that "So far, science can explain everything by natural means..."
I pointed out something that it cannot explain, and you throw a hissy fit.
Telling stories is not science.
Saying "evolutiondidit" is not science.
Yes, so far he is right. And my statement still stands, ask a specialist if we cannot answer a question. To be precise there are a lot of partially answered questions out there. There is nothing that indicates a supernatural being had anything to do with.

Telling stories is what you do. To the uneducated, and this means you HST, some aspects of evolution may seem like "story telling". I assure you it is not. Instead of calling it story telling why not ask the people who made the statements you don't like about those particular statements. You will never learn anything by lying.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#130497 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Gillette wrote:
<quoted text>
. So far, science can explain everything by natural means, so we'll leave the supernatural hand-waving and Arguments From Incredulity to you guys.
Gillette had the gaul to claim that "So far, science can explain everything by natural means..."
I pointed out something that it cannot explain, and you throw a hissy fit.
Telling stories is not science.
Saying "evolutiondidit" is not science.
"Evolution did it" is your argument, not something any scientist has ever said. Evolution does not "do" anything, it happens, things evolve.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#130498 May 18, 2013
defender wrote:
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This is even better than Kong's metabolism theory!
....excuse me?

What is my "metabolism theory"?

Please remind me.

Thank you.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#130499 May 18, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me how "science" can explain the evolution of migratory instincts in whales when no one even understands them.
I need more than "evolutiondidit"
You don't need anything except Goddidit with magic. After all, you are only just another liar for Jesus.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#130500 May 18, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Likewise (and equally foolish) is the fact that the earth is made up of 133,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000 atoms (1.33*10^50).
There is nothing man has ever designed or ever hopes to design that even comes remotely close to that number.
So what?
I wonder how many lines of code and content are the internet? Just sayin ....
Mugwump

Rochdale, UK

#130501 May 18, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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....excuse me?
What is my "metabolism theory"?
Please remind me.
Thank you.
It's pretty simple

It's a (vaguely) scientific word 'metabolism'

Combined with denial

Works all the time

how can you not get this :-)

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