Should evolution be taught in high school?

Feb 24, 2008 | Posted by: Cash | Full story: www.scientificblogging.com

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."
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What makes you think it is a code? The orderly nature? Then crystals are "codes"?? I've seen crystals form .... I was the only one in the room at the time. I can assure you I did nothing to "code" them.
No
Because the precise arrangement of nucleotides when translated code for the body plan of a living creature

The Rosetta Stone, likewise, is referred to as a code

Codes denote intelligence

Intelligence denotes design

Design denotes a designer

Who is He?

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Urban Cowboy wrote:
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So it is a code because it was created by intelligence.
Since you have not demonstrated any evidence suggesting it was created, then nope, not a code.
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LowellGuy wrote:
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That's right. AIG does absolutely ZERO scientific research that ends up published in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
Here's LowellGuy on the bus
He notices Rosa Parks sitting in the back

He scurries up to her

"Get off"

"Get off"...he screeches

She says, "Why?"

He thinks about it for a moment....

He shrugs his shoulders....goes, "Ah well"

......And then he ends up sitting in her lap.....

Really LowellGuy.......! You are an embarrassment

But then she did look so motherly

..........even if she was black

That's the Peachfuzz Effect

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MikeF notices Rosa Parks on the same said bus

He rushes off the bus

Races across the street to the other side

And when feeling safe and from at a great distance....

He yells, "You have to get off that bus...."

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Here comes SubDud

He spots Rosa Parks

He lumbers across to her as fast as he can

"You can't be here", says SZ

Rosa asks, "Why not"

SZ, "Well, firstly, you're a woman......."

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Here's Dogem

"You have to go," he tells her

"Why, pray tell, says she

"Why pray tell" says Dogem

And they stare at each other for a while

Then, says Dogem, age 52 and getting older every day, not any wiser, "You blinked first, therefore you lose"

Then he tries to palm off some Geodon to her, which she obviously refuses

Dogem you can't write prescriptions

Stop trying to dish out Geodon!

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This is clear cut bigotry

Pure and simple

Crying foul just because scientists believe in God and His creation

It will NOT be entertained

You evo-tards need to grow up

And grow a brain

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Russell wrote:
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No
Because the precise arrangement of nucleotides when translated code for the body plan of a living creature
The Rosetta Stone, likewise, is referred to as a code
Codes denote intelligence
Intelligence denotes design
Design denotes a designer
Who is He?
The Rosetta stone is a code? Idiot the Rosetta stone would be a DeCODER. But actually is a Key.
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Subduction Zone wrote:
Another interesting fact about Tyre. The city was named for the rocky island it was built upon. In fact Tyre comes from the Greek Tyrus which comes from the Phoenecian Sur. Sur means "rock" in Phoenecian.
I have not found the etymology of the land based city Usu or Ushu yet. It becomes clearer and clearer that defenders of the Tyre prophesy are grasping at straws, and rather ineffectively at that.
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Ty...
The only thing Squishy around here is your head
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The Lebanese city of Tyre is still called Sur today

SZ is having revelations.....

Slow and lumbering, but he'll get there eventually

Both Tyre and Sidon had island and mainland components, SZ

AND the scriptures CLEARLY state

1) Many nations

2) Mainland settlements would be destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar

Ezekiel 26: 7-11

New International Version (NIV)
A Prophecy Against Tyre

7 “For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar[b] king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army.

8 He will ravage your settlements on the mainland with the sword; he will set up siege works against you, build a ramp up to your walls and raise his shields against you.

9 He will direct the blows of his battering rams against your walls and demolish your towers with his weapons.

10 His horses will be so many that they will cover you with dust. Your walls will tremble at the noise of the warhorses, wagons and chariots when he enters your gates as men enter a city whose walls have been broken through.

11 The hooves of his horses will trample all your streets; he will kill your people with the sword, and your strong pillars will fall to the ground.

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Any issues with the above?

Did anything mentioned there NOT come to pass?

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Read it again----->

8 He will ravage your settlements on the mainland with the sword......etc

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Its as clear as the lovely day it is here this morning

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Even my earlobes are like granite

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Russell wrote:
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No
Because the precise arrangement of nucleotides when translated code for the body plan of a living creature
The Rosetta Stone, likewise, is referred to as a code
Codes denote intelligence
Intelligence denotes design
Design denotes a designer
Who is He?
But the precise arrangement of molecules produces intricate and regular crystal patterns.

What are nucleotides "translated" by? This is essential for code, it must be translated by something ... what are nucleotides translated by? What processor do they run on?

In the case of the Rosetta stone the symbols were processed by humans and mapped to another set of symbols affording translation from one language to another. What are these nucleotides being translated to? and by what?
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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> The Rosetta stone is a code? Idiot the Rosetta stone would be a DeCODER. But actually is a Key.
I agree
The writings are referred to as a code breaking

http://www.amazon.com/Cracking-Codes-Rosetta-...

What codes are these?

Wind drifted sand?

Leaves billowing on the grass?

No as I have said

A code implies intelligence

Design

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Russell wrote:
<quoted text>Here's LowellGuy on the bus
He notices Rosa Parks sitting in the back

He scurries up to her

"Get off"

"Get off"...he screeches

She says, "Why?"

He thinks about it for a moment....

He shrugs his shoulders....goes, "Ah well"

......And then he ends up sitting in her lap.....

Really LowellGuy.......! You are an embarrassment

But then she did look so motherly

..........even if she was black

That's the Peachfuzz Effect

----------

MikeF notices Rosa Parks on the same said bus

He rushes off the bus

Races across the street to the other side

And when feeling safe and from at a great distance....

He yells, "You have to get off that bus...."

----------
Here comes SubDud

He spots Rosa Parks

He lumbers across to her as fast as he can

"You can't be here", says SZ

Rosa asks, "Why not"

SZ, "Well, firstly, you're a woman......."

----------

Here's Dogem

"You have to go," he tells her

"Why, pray tell, says she

"Why pray tell" says Dogem

And they stare at each other for a while

Then, says Dogem, age 52 and getting older every day, not any wiser, "You blinked first, therefore you lose"

Then he tries to palm off some Geodon to her, which she obviously refuses

Dogem you can't write prescriptions

Stop trying to dish out Geodon!

----------

This is clear cut bigotry

Pure and simple

Crying foul just because scientists believe in God and His creation

It will NOT be entertained

You evo-tards need to grow up

And grow a brain

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.....and **THIS GUY** claims to be a "Medical Doctor"?!?!

And why do I picture Jethro Bodine in surgical scrubs?
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Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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But the precise arrangement of molecules produces intricate and regular crystal patterns.
What are nucleotides "translated" by? This is essential for code, it must be translated by something ... what are nucleotides translated by? What processor do they run on?
In the case of the Rosetta stone the symbols were processed by humans and mapped to another set of symbols affording translation from one language to another. What are these nucleotides being translated to? and by what?
DNA polymerase

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DNA polymerase
That only synthesizes DNA, makes copies of it. This does nothing to "translate" DNA into anything.

Me thinks you have no clue what you are talking about.

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I agree
The writings are referred to as a code breaking
http://www.amazon.com/Cracking-Codes-Rosetta-...
What codes are these?
Wind drifted sand?
Leaves billowing on the grass?
No as I have said
A code implies intelligence
Design
Code implies a secret message.
What secret message did you find in DNA?

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Russell wrote:
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Here's LowellGuy on the bus
He notices Rosa Parks sitting in the back
He scurries up to her
"Get off"
"Get off"...he screeches
She says, "Why?"
He thinks about it for a moment....
He shrugs his shoulders....goes, "Ah well"
......And then he ends up sitting in her lap.....
Really LowellGuy.......! You are an embarrassment
But then she did look so motherly
..........even if she was black
That's the Peachfuzz Effect
----------
MikeF notices Rosa Parks on the same said bus
He rushes off the bus
Races across the street to the other side
And when feeling safe and from at a great distance....
He yells, "You have to get off that bus...."
----------
Here comes SubDud
He spots Rosa Parks
He lumbers across to her as fast as he can
"You can't be here", says SZ
Rosa asks, "Why not"
SZ, "Well, firstly, you're a woman......."
----------
Here's Dogem
"You have to go," he tells her
"Why, pray tell, says she
"Why pray tell" says Dogem
And they stare at each other for a while
Then, says Dogem, age 52 and getting older every day, not any wiser, "You blinked first, therefore you lose"
Then he tries to palm off some Geodon to her, which she obviously refuses
Dogem you can't write prescriptions
Stop trying to dish out Geodon!
----------
This is clear cut bigotry
Pure and simple
Crying foul just because scientists believe in God and His creation
It will NOT be entertained
You evo-tards need to grow up
And grow a brain
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Imagine that! A complete jerkoff accusing me of being a racist. Just the kind of thing a true bigot would say.

Even funnier, he pukes this steaming pile of crap then tell us to grow brains. Hilarious.

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The Lebanese city of Tyre is still called Sur today
And it's still there! Thanks for being such a loser.

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<quoted text> Code implies a secret message.
What secret message did you find in DNA?
(C)YWHW, 6000BC All rights reserved?
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.....and **THIS GUY** claims to be a "Medical Doctor"?!?!
And why do I picture Jethro Bodine in surgical scrubs?
Who, may I ask, is "this guy"?

And I am sorry to have left you out, Kong

May be next time someone complains that creation.com or answersingenesis.com are not valid sites since they're Christian
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Who, may I ask, is "this guy"?
And I am sorry to have left you out, Kong
May be next time someone complains that creation.com or answersingenesis.com are not valid sites since they're Christian
[sigh] we don't complain that creation.com and AIG are not valid because they are Christian, we complain (or more correctly point out the obvious) when they come out with crap like this, and call it science.

"If we accept all observations about the universe, realizing they are tainted with certain assumptions, which may be wrong, then creationists have a starlight-travel-time problem. This is true if we believe only 6,000 years have passed since the creation of the most distant light sources, and that they were all created at that time, as measured by normal Earth clocks, and we hold to the convention that the timer was started when the star was created. But if the timer was started when the light first arrived on Earth, when someone first saw the event, then this is the Anisotropic Time Convention,6 and there is no light-travel-time problem. There is nothing to answer"

http://creation.com/creationism-modern-scienc...

I mean only a religiously biased cretin, whom had no idea of how science works, that rejects all evidence that conflicts with scripture without even examining it would call the above a rational statement ......

... Oh hang on, I forgot.

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Who, may I ask, is "this guy"?
And I am sorry to have left you out, Kong
May be next time someone complains that creation.com or answersingenesis.com are not valid sites since they're Christian
Au contraire mon frere!

I fully understand that they're Christian in nature...as misguided as they may be.

I'm just saying that they're not SCIENCE.

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Who, may I ask, is "this guy"?
And I am sorry to have left you out, Kong
May be next time someone complains that creation.com or answersingenesis.com are not valid sites since they're Christian
Tell ya what, "Doctor" [snicker], try **this** Christian site instead:

http://biologos.org/questions/biologos-id-cre...

"We at BioLogos believe that God used the process of evolution to create all the life on earth today. While we accept the science of evolution, we emphatically reject evolutionism. Evolutionism is the atheistic worldview that says life developed without God and without purpose. Instead, we agree with Christians who adhere to Intelligent Design and Creationism that the God of the Bible created the universe and all life. Christians disagree, however, on how God created. Young Earth Creationists believe that God created just 6,000 to 10,000 years ago and disagree with much of mainstream science. Supporters of Intelligent Design accept more of evolutionary science, but argue that some features of life are best explained by direct intervention by an intelligent agent rather than by God’s regular way of working through natural processes. We at BioLogos agree with the modern scientific consensus on the age of the earth and evolutionary development of all species, seeing these as descriptions of how God created. The term BioLogos comes from the Greek words bios (life) and logos (word), referring to the opening of the Gospel of John.“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made.”

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Code implies a secret message.
What secret message did you find in DNA?
Batman

Have your Vitamin D levels checked

You're in the dark
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Kong_ wrote:
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Tell ya what, "Doctor" [snicker], try **this** Christian site instead:
http://biologos.org/questions/biologos-id-cre...
"We at BioLogos believe that God used the process of evolution to create all the life on earth today. While we accept the science of evolution, we emphatically reject evolutionism. Evolutionism is the atheistic worldview that says life developed without God and without purpose. Instead, we agree with Christians who adhere to Intelligent Design and Creationism that the God of the Bible created the universe and all life. Christians disagree, however, on how God created. Young Earth Creationists believe that God created just 6,000 to 10,000 years ago and disagree with much of mainstream science. Supporters of Intelligent Design accept more of evolutionary science, but argue that some features of life are best explained by direct intervention by an intelligent agent rather than by God’s regular way of working through natural processes. We at BioLogos agree with the modern scientific consensus on the age of the earth and evolutionary development of all species, seeing these as descriptions of how God created. The term BioLogos comes from the Greek words bios (life) and logos (word), referring to the opening of the Gospel of John.“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made.”
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I thought I was Squishy

Now I'm "doctor"

What is the hideous game you are playing at

Who am I.....?

Who am I.....?

<Heart rending melodious tones>

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