Should evolution be taught in high school?

Feb 24, 2008 | Posted by: Cash | Full story: www.scientificblogging.com

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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The very comment of mine you have just responded to has an Archaeological paper referring to Ushu as Paleo-tyre
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There lies ....along side ancient Tyre......your whole argument......crumbled ruins.......
And in the case of Tyre..........NEVER rebuilt
There's nothing for archaeologists to dig out.....
There's nothing left of the ancient city
Yes, they called Usu or Ushu that. The residents never did. They named it for convenience, nothing more. You made the mistake that that was they Tyre of the Bible. It clearly isn't.

Your reading comprehension is still about zero isn't it Squishy?

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Squishy, you keep trying to take Zeke's prophesy and force it into reality.

That is not how prophesy works.

First a prophesy is supposed to be of a significant event. If you can name who and when a city is going to be overthrown that would be a prophesy. For example if you could predict when Zebby would defeat Tyre. He didn't by the way. All the historians will tell you that his goal escaped him.

Extending it out to Alex the G takes it out of the realm of prophesy. It is no longer a significant event since every city in the area has been destroyed, ran sacked, etc. by then. If we give a city in an area that is war torn sooner or later it will be defeated.

Worse yet we have shown you time after time that the city in the prophesy is the island. Do you want to see the verses again. The land based forerunner of Tyre is called Paleo-Tyre by today's archaeologists it was not called Tyre by people of the tine. As a city it had a different name.

Your own sources say that paleo-Tyre has been rebuilt. They give the name of the modern town at the site. Once again, people live there. Not in tents, in buildings. There building were, one guess come on, you can do it, it starts with the letter "B" .... that's right, these buildings were built. There fore even pale-Tyre has been rebuilt.

As I said, you are full of fail.
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I have read it
I am not satisfied
Why is DNA not a code?
Ahhh, I see the problem, you don't understand the concept of a debate.

If you arnt satisfied with someone's argument , you explain why - it's not debating to say 'nope' and ask the same question again.

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In a quaternary code, 0, 1, 2, 3 are arbitrary values.
In DNA, A, G, T, C are NOT arbitrary bases.
Not the symbols, but the values, are arbitrary in this context.
It would be nice if you'd learn something...ANYTHING...from the centuries of education you're exposed to here on a daily basis, rather than ignoring it all in favor of ancient Middle Eastern campfire stories.
All you know how to do is twist facts around and commit logical falacies because your whole worldview is based on fiction.

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Who really gives a crap what the Greeks called it? We call a city in Germany Cologne when it is properly Köln. The pronunciation is quite different. I figure the German know what their own city is called just well as the ancient Tyrians did.

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All you know how to do is twist facts around and commit logical falacies because your whole worldview is based on fiction.
Yet you can't articulate how it's a fiction, nor any of the fallacies. You just state it and think that covers it.

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Yet you can't articulate how it's a fiction, nor any of the fallacies. You just state it and think that covers it.
My comment is based on a long dubious track record of dodging, deceit, deception, and ad hominem. For example, the current unresolved issues are:

o desparate, repeated failed attempts (Zone) to discredit the fullfilled Tyre Prophesy,

o failure (Zone, Dogen, Christine) to present any evidence of bat evolution,

o failure (Zone, Dogen) to present any evidence of feather evolution; and,

o refusal/denial (Mike) to acknowledge accept/reject the way the genetic code and DNA parallels to the quaternary numeral system.

Numerous other similar examples.

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My comment is based on a long dubious track record of dodging, deceit, deception, and ad hominem. For example, the current unresolved issues are:
o desparate, repeated failed attempts (Zone) to discredit the fullfilled Tyre Prophesy,
o failure (Zone, Dogen, Christine) to present any evidence of bat evolution,
o failure (Zone, Dogen) to present any evidence of feather evolution; and,
o refusal/denial (Mike) to acknowledge accept/reject the way the genetic code and DNA parallels to the quaternary numeral system.
Numerous other similar examples.
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Urban Cowboy wrote:
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My comment is based on a long dubious track record of dodging, deceit, deception, and ad hominem. For example, the current unresolved issues are:
o desparate, repeated failed attempts (Zone) to discredit the fullfilled Tyre Prophesy,
o failure (Zone, Dogen, Christine) to present any evidence of bat evolution,
o failure (Zone, Dogen) to present any evidence of feather evolution; and,
o refusal/denial (Mike) to acknowledge accept/reject the way the genetic code and DNA parallels to the quaternary numeral system.
Numerous other similar examples.
I think you have that backwards Urb.

On Tyre:

There has been no desperation on my part. Quite a lot of laughter at your sides idiocy and Squishy's constant shooting himself in the foot, but no desperation.

The only reason I have "failed" is due to Squishy and your Black Knight tactics.

On evidence for evolution:

I have given and have offered to give evidence for evolution many many times over. Since your side is full of liars to DEMAND evidence they must now pass a simple class on what is or is not evidence so they cannot hide in ignorance about evidence anymore. Your refusal to take the class shows that you would rather live in willful ignorance than to learn the truth. If you are ignorant you can at least deny evolution without consciously breaking the Ninth Commandment. You do keep breaking it unconsciously with almost ever post.

The same applies to feather evolution. For evidence you must pass the course.

And Mike has answered your idiotic questions about why DNA is not a code many times. You simply do not like the answer.

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My comment is based on a long dubious track record of dodging, deceit, deception, and ad hominem. For example, the current unresolved issues are:
o desparate, repeated failed attempts (Zone) to discredit the fullfilled Tyre Prophesy,
o failure (Zone, Dogen, Christine) to present any evidence of bat evolution,
o failure (Zone, Dogen) to present any evidence of feather evolution; and,
o refusal/denial (Mike) to acknowledge accept/reject the way the genetic code and DNA parallels to the quaternary numeral system.
Numerous other similar examples.
Your comment was about ME, not about them, asshat.

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I think you have that backwards Urb.
On Tyre:
There has been no desperation on my part. Quite a lot of laughter at your sides idiocy and Squishy's constant shooting himself in the foot, but no desperation.
The only reason I have "failed" is due to Squishy and your Black Knight tactics.
On evidence for evolution:
I have given and have offered to give evidence for evolution many many times over. Since your side is full of liars to DEMAND evidence they must now pass a simple class on what is or is not evidence so they cannot hide in ignorance about evidence anymore. Your refusal to take the class shows that you would rather live in willful ignorance than to learn the truth. If you are ignorant you can at least deny evolution without consciously breaking the Ninth Commandment. You do keep breaking it unconsciously with almost ever post.
The same applies to feather evolution. For evidence you must pass the course.
And Mike has answered your idiotic questions about why DNA is not a code many times. You simply do not like the answer.
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Your comment was about ME, not about them, asshat.
Those were the current examples but you are definitely included in the referenced long track record. Evolution has failed all of you.

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Those were the current examples but you are definitely included in the referenced long track record. Evolution has failed all of you.
Like I said, you can't articulate my fallacies.

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All you know how to do is twist facts around and commit logical falacies because your whole worldview is based on fiction.
This is about the funniest thing YOU could say.
We see you are sitting atop a humongous pile of logical fallacy saying it too. lol

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Yes, we know that you are still a lying, dishonest creatard.

Urb, the first step in learning is admitting your mistakes.

For example, modern day archaeologists sometimes call modern day archaeologists sometimes call Ushu "paleo-Tyre". That is just their way of noting that there was a city before Tyre of importance in the area. It was where the settlement and building of Tyre was began from. There is no record that the city was ever called any form of the word "Tyre". It was Usu or Ushu depending upon the language it was written in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushu

Of course we don't even need the fact that the land based city was never called Tyre. Read the God Damned Bible. It will tell you in several different places that the city Tyre is the island Tyre. And not just in the prophecy by Zeke.

Even the dishonest sites that Squish looks for will not claim that the land based city was called Tyre. They might try to call it "Paleo-Tyre" but if pressed they admit that it was either Usu or Ushu.

So the city of prophecy was never swept clean. It was rebuilt from its damages for Alex the G's attack. It did come into trading prominence again as time went on. All the prophesies of significance against Tyre failed.

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This is about the funniest thing YOU could say.
We see you are sitting atop a humongous pile of logical fallacy saying it too. lol
Who is "We"?

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So Urb, are you willing to learn what is and is not scientific evidence?

That is the only way you can demand it. Sometimes I will give it when it suits me. But demands by lying creatards will be ignored. By the way, one of the main ways that idiots step over the boundary from "creationist" to "creatard" is when they deny the undeniable.

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"What is found consistently in the fossil record is fully developed scales, feathers that are fully feathers, and skin that is clearly skin. No transitional structures consisting of feathers that are part feather and part scale, or even feathers that are less than modern types, have ever been uncovered.39 All of the earliest birds discovered, including Protoavis, have fully modern feathers:‘the oldest known feathers ... are already modern in form and microscopic detail’.40"

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tj/v...

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"What is found consistently in the fossil record is fully developed scales, feathers that are fully feathers, and skin that is clearly skin. No transitional structures consisting of feathers that are part feather and part scale, or even feathers that are less than modern types, have ever been uncovered.39 All of the earliest birds discovered, including Protoavis, have fully modern feathers:‘the oldest known feathers ... are already modern in form and microscopic detail’.40"
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tj/v...
No, feathers are found in all stages of development. Scales are even harder to fossilize than feathers. Fossilized feathers are very very rare. You either need an imprint in very fine silt, or to find them preserved in amber. Even so simple "proto-feather" imprints have been found. Not many, and of limited resolution, but enough to realize that feathers may have been common place on dinosaurs.

It is not unreasonable that by the time birds got around to evolving that feathers would have been well evolved too. Feathers evolved long before birds did.

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Who is "We"?
About everybody that isn't either YOU , or suffering the same delusional state of the denial of evolution.

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