Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 178688 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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#122738 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
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What's amazing is the bullshit lies that are put forth by the evotards and believed by the masses....

What's amazing is the bullshit lies that are put forth by the creotards and believed by the masses.

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#122739 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
If science had proof of evolution, such as a single line of horses, that showed SMALL changes---one after the next, evolution would be heralding it from the tops of every newspaper and media, in a splash like never before seen, because tens of millions of believers would abandon their religions and the gov would then usurp all the power, uncontested and then from all we see, do you believe they would be a benevolent god--uhh government?

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122740 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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How true, the masses could turn all the stupidity and theft around, but they haven't yet and in a short time, our gov officials will be able to say they can't do anything, because we are now part of a one world government and they will no longer be subject to our votes, but rather the one world governing body.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122741 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Sadly this and many other governments have been brainwashing the masses, with the help of the fully corrupt media and corporations that also favor brainwashed people with nothing more than cubicle smarts. They are very compliant.
former CIA Director, William Casey,“We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122742 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
There will be drones patrolling all the countries skies, killing as the one world gov deems necessary, to protect its own.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122743 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Would you care to tear the article apart, piece by piece, to see? Lol, come on idiot.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122744 Mar 9, 2013
Russell wrote:
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Here's MikeF trying desperately not to be a schoolgirl armed with a wet lettuce...
Well MikeF
Where are your transitionals?
There are an estimated 1 billion fossils..
Should be an easy task
Lets start with transitionals for ...er...let's say.. T rex
There are 32 specimens of which 12 are nearly complete
So, what's the story.....?

Raptorex is a precursor species ("transitional") to t-rex.

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#122745 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
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Dishonest?.... Peking Man, Peltdown Man, Nabraska Man, Lucy, Stanley Miller experiment, Ida, and on and on... Yeah tell us all about whose dishonest...

Yes, the above is dishonest. So you are dishonest.

What do you not understand?

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#122746 Mar 9, 2013
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There are no transitional fossils... Zero
Unless of course you count the bone fragments on Talkorigins that they so kindly have sketch artist to place the parts where they need them... But real transitional fossils... Uh.. No...

You would do well to read some of the scientific literature on the subject.

Pubmed has a few (67)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...

A lot more here:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar...
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#122747 Mar 9, 2013
Poor dog shit, always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

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#122748 Mar 9, 2013
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Dear MikeF
Read correctly what that means is ..
"WE DON'T KNOW SQUAT!
The fossils don't match up
We are hypothesizing
We have only weak evidence
Therefore we do the best we can"
The horse series has AT LEAST two evolutionary gaps
a) The first gap occurs at Epihippus
Only sparse fossil pieces have been found of this animal
And they resemble those of the earlier Orohippus, Eohippus and other formerly-identified hyracotherid species
b) The second gap occurs in or just after the group Parahippus
The early Parahippus species are supposed to resemble Miohippus and Mesohippus while the latter ones are supposed to look like Merychippus
..... this is only partly supported by the fossil findings.....
Furthermore, the fossil material for Parahippus is incomplete.
AND It would probably be possible to classify the different parts of Parahippus as belonging to two different animals—Miohippus and Merychippus.
This latter result can also be inferred by the work of Cavanaugh et al.,
....as Parahippus showed similarities to 14 of 18 species of horses.
Therefore, the “Parahippus” step in the horse series appears to be a mixed up group of unrelated fossils.
In 1992, the genus Hyracotherium was reclassified as FIVE animals belonging to different families of which only one group was regarded as having anything to do with horses.
More recent research has reclassified these animals into TEN different genera and at least three families.......
........ of which many are not supposed to have anything to do with the horse series but are similar to e.g. tapirs (family Tapiromorpha).
One Hyracotherium species (angustidens) has been renamed Eohippus, and all the other Hyracotherium species except one, have been given new genus names.
The single animal still retaining the name Hyracotherium (leporinum) is NO LONGER in the horse series but is regarded as belonging next to the Palaeotheriidae.......
.... which resemble tapirs and rhinoceros.
How about the NON-EVOLUTION of horses?
http://creation.com/the-non-evolution-of-the-...

So you are saying that there is a LOT of evidence of horse evolution. Maybe you should proofread your own posts.

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#122749 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Have you told your therapist how your deceit helps to dumb down children?
My rage is on behalf of children, that deserve so much better. Fruk off moron.
Well, if you think most children get educations like yours...well, good point. Education is pretty much for shit, just not in the way you think. Fortunately, nobody teaches that gravity is caused by rotational speed. Why? BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETE HORSESHIT.

Jim, have you ever been hospitalized against your will?

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#122750 Mar 9, 2013
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, eye creation is well understood. Look it up. Even Einstein understood that the process originated from God.
Who wrote this:

The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them.
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#122751 Mar 9, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Well, if you think most children get educations like yours...well, good point. Education is pretty much for shit, just not in the way you think. Fortunately, nobody teaches that gravity is caused by rotational speed. Why? BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETE HORSESHIT.
Jim, have you ever been hospitalized against your will?
Then it should be easy for you morons to prove that rotation has nothing to do with gravity. Lol

Take yer best shot idiot.
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#122752 Mar 9, 2013
Rotation is in every living thing. Every single cell in every living thing is rotating. The planets and suns and moons all rotate and yet, science cannot show what effects rotation has on anything, much less everything.
Spin electron rate earth gravity
Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence
EDEE!
As everything is connected to everything and everyone, so too must earths spin and rotational rates, as well as electromagnetism and gravity.
From my perspective at this time, the reason science does not understand electromagnetisim or gravity, is because science cannot measure spin rate in electrons, so as to compare with the spin rate of the
Electrons in our bodies-- as a reason we do not feel the spinning of the earth and more.
The possibility exists that electrons spin correlates to either the earths spin rate on its axis, the rotational rate around our barycenter or possibly a combination.
If science were to use earths spin rate first, in doing test within the electromagnetic field, it may reveal much more. Do the electrons in our bodies spin at 1000 miles per hour and is that the reason we don't feel the earth spinning as it does?

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#122753 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Show the proof that haldane was wrong, if ya can.
Ya got nuthin piss ant. Only truth tellers bring the proof.
You just admitted to being a liar.
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#122754 Mar 9, 2013
I would pose a thought about my above post.

Ya know how some people--like myself, get dizzy just riding on a merry go round, well, its possible that some people are a lot more sensitive to any extra spinning and yet, some like my daughter get a kick out of extra spin.

So if extra rotation can cause such, why doesn't science start there? Even the simplest of things have things to reveal.
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#122755 Mar 9, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You just admitted to being a liar.
If I wanted Evo morons to argue with, I'd go to the science and technology threads on topix.com

Drat, I'm already here.
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#122756 Mar 9, 2013
Another thought.

More science by Jim Ryan

Testing!

What if science gave extra spin to more creatures, great and small, even bacteria, would bacteria incorporate something else to deal with the extra spin? Could scientists see any differences under a scope, after spinning?

What could science offer bacteria to deal with the extra spin?

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#122757 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Then it should be easy for you morons to prove that rotation has nothing to do with gravity. Lol
Take yer best shot idiot.
Here's how science doesn't work: I make shit up, then expect people to prove it false and, if I don't accept their evidence, it just be true.

Here's how science DOES work: I make shit up, and if I can't back it up with evidence, nobody has any good reason to pay attention to anything I say.

Which one is you?

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