Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 20 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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One way or another

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#122726 Mar 9, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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The numbers in the quote refer to the references at the bottom of the page. This tells an intelligent reader where the facts in the article come from.
I understand what the problem is here.
I didn't bother, because liars can't prove what they claim. However, here's your chance moron, ya got 1 2 3. I don't need to look to know liars when they present themselves. The truth has a ring to it.

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#122727 Mar 9, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Fleischmann made these comments a hundred years ago. Got anything not quite so stale?

It is also a quote mine.
Mugwump

Bradford, UK

#122728 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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I didn't bother, because liars can't prove what they claim. However, here's your chance moron, ya got 1 2 3. I don't need to look to know liars when they present themselves. The truth has a ring to it.
Ok - show evidence that bacteria are intelligent

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#122729 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
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I'll never understand why the evolutionist use this argument because it just proves all the more that they have no true time line of which to measure...

Incorrect.
defender wrote:
<quoted text> The theory of gravity is yet unproven but so is time... Is the speed of light a proven constant?

Yes, in a vacuum.
defender wrote:
<quoted text> Do the laws of science that we know of exist outside our little corner of the universe?

Yes
defender wrote:
<quoted text> Can energy create matter?

Yes
defender wrote:
<quoted text> Higgs Boson perhaps?

The HB creates mass, not energy, per se.
defender wrote:
<quoted text>.... Does DNA show only a one hundred thousand year decay rate hence rendering evolution even more impossible than it already is?

No
defender wrote:
<quoted text> How about the earths magnetic field decay rate which if it is proven to be consistent renders the theory void altogether ...

It is already shown to be a variable.

defender wrote:
<quoted text> So many questions ... And that's just a few... But hey keep reaching till you can fall asleep feeling safe..

Did you really not know the answers to your school child questions?

Not looking good for our system of education.
Mugwump

Bradford, UK

#122730 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Show the proof that haldane was wrong, if ya can.
Ya got nuthin piss ant. Only truth tellers bring the proof.
Nope- the point was about your understanding of the wiki post that YOU posted.

You have dodged it multiple times so won't bother reposting it.

If you can't answer simple questions about your thoughts, then your thoughts aren't relevant.

As I have said before I don't count you as a creationist - you don't really have a relevant point to make on this forum - but you do seem to be an extreme example of delusion that even UC,Defender , HTS etc wont stretch to.
One way or another

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#122731 Mar 9, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
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Ok - show evidence that bacteria are intelligent
Change the subject moron, because even you know its a lie. Haldane stands.

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#122732 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
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Cut, paste, glue, "wait a sec that ain't workin (pause) ok this is how you evolved from.. Wait that ain't workin either... Somebody look it up on Talkorigins !!"...... Pathetic

Talkorigins is a site filled with scientific information most of which is directly supported by peer review articles with references to them.

So I understand why fundies hate the site.

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#122733 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122734 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Said Mikey the moron, that never once brought even one new thought to science and all he brings here is childish name calling and stupidity.
One way or another | 1 min ago
MikeF wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the ...
http://chem.tufts.edu/science/evolution/Horse ...
http://www.ecology.info/horses.htm
Hey stupid, This image shows a representative sequence, but should not be construed to represent a "straight-line" evolution of the horse. Reconstruction, left forefoot skeleton (third digit emphasized yellow) and longitudinal section of molars of selected prehistoric horses
I would add that science cannot prove these are of the same lineage. You're an idiot.
How many types of monkeys are there!
Mikey the moron claims to be a supervisor, must be a supervisor of morons. Lmao

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.
Mugwump

Bradford, UK

#122735 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Change the subject moron, because even you know its a lie. Haldane stands.
Nope - you changed the subject

I called you out on your misinterpretation of the wiki article - do you want me to post it yet again?

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#122736 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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I would not be a willing moron like you, I know that the mind must be free and very honest, if it is to rise to its potential.
Stay stupid, it looks good on you.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122737 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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I require proof. Pick one line of horse and show the SMALL incrimental changes in that lineage. You have billions of fossils and millions of years of those fossils.
The fully bribed Evo scientists have sold children down the drain for money and you're a piece of shit that follows who or what is profiting from the stupidity.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122738 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
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What's amazing is the bullshit lies that are put forth by the evotards and believed by the masses....

What's amazing is the bullshit lies that are put forth by the creotards and believed by the masses.

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#122739 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
If science had proof of evolution, such as a single line of horses, that showed SMALL changes---one after the next, evolution would be heralding it from the tops of every newspaper and media, in a splash like never before seen, because tens of millions of believers would abandon their religions and the gov would then usurp all the power, uncontested and then from all we see, do you believe they would be a benevolent god--uhh government?

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122740 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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How true, the masses could turn all the stupidity and theft around, but they haven't yet and in a short time, our gov officials will be able to say they can't do anything, because we are now part of a one world government and they will no longer be subject to our votes, but rather the one world governing body.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122741 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Sadly this and many other governments have been brainwashing the masses, with the help of the fully corrupt media and corporations that also favor brainwashed people with nothing more than cubicle smarts. They are very compliant.
former CIA Director, William Casey,“We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122742 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
There will be drones patrolling all the countries skies, killing as the one world gov deems necessary, to protect its own.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122743 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Would you care to tear the article apart, piece by piece, to see? Lol, come on idiot.

You're a willing moron. You make claims and show no proof. That's what willing morons do.

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#122744 Mar 9, 2013
Russell wrote:
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Here's MikeF trying desperately not to be a schoolgirl armed with a wet lettuce...
Well MikeF
Where are your transitionals?
There are an estimated 1 billion fossils..
Should be an easy task
Lets start with transitionals for ...er...let's say.. T rex
There are 32 specimens of which 12 are nearly complete
So, what's the story.....?

Raptorex is a precursor species ("transitional") to t-rex.

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#122745 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
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Dishonest?.... Peking Man, Peltdown Man, Nabraska Man, Lucy, Stanley Miller experiment, Ida, and on and on... Yeah tell us all about whose dishonest...

Yes, the above is dishonest. So you are dishonest.

What do you not understand?

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