Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 178701 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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LowellGuy

Watchung, NJ

#122566 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
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Oh they can show you some proof alright!! They just start slinging Talkorigins links like that's a reliable source.... But just like all the other lefty sources they are as full of it as a flock of buzzards fresh off the crap wagon...
Is Earth's gravitational pull determined by its mass or by its rotational speed? This is important.
LowellGuy

Watchung, NJ

#122567 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Show us one entity in the entire billion fossil record, that shows small incremental changes in its lineage you lying piece of shit.
Have you told your therapist about how rageful your online behavior tends to be?
LowellGuy

Watchung, NJ

#122568 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Then point to just one entity in the fossil record, that science can trace the SMALL changes, through its lineage.
Lies are all Evo science has and you're an idiot for believing in that religion. You have no proof, but you have faith, even when you have no proof.
You refuse to provide evidence that your "hypothesis" is correct, yet you demand that we provide evidence that our theory is correct (all of which you dismiss as part of an elaborate century-long conspiracy)? What is hypocrisy?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#122569 Mar 9, 2013
defender, TalkOrigins is not a lefty site. Why would you make such a statement?

Would a site that advocated 2 + 2 = 4 be considered a "lefty site"?

You continually lie about the evidence for evolution. You can try to deny it, but the evidence for evolution is better and more thorough than that of any murder trial.
One way or another

United States

#122570 Mar 9, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Have you told your therapist about how rageful your online behavior tends to be?
Have you told your therapist how your deceit helps to dumb down children?

My rage is on behalf of children, that deserve so much better. Fruk off moron.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Indianapolis, IN

#122571 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
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There is also A huge number of people who buy the sham wow? Your point?...Once again science demands proof for validation and this is where the evolutionist comes up wanting time and time again...
Lie. More people accept evolution than reject it.
defender wrote:
You scuff at Christian believers demanding proof of God but yet when asked the same about your ridiculous theory all one gets is "Well just because we don't have the answers yet doesn't mean it isn't true"...
More lies. When have I demanded proof of god?
defender wrote:
Truth is you have NO answers... Not one shred of evidence to back this foolishness besides A bunch of bones that no one can agree on...
By no one, I assume you mean the uneducated, hick fundies.

As I said before, you can dispute the evidence but to say there is none is a flat out lie. Is lying all you have to offer? Please tell me you can offer more to the debate besides bullshit.
defender wrote:
Or even worse are glued to human remains in the desperate hope of keeping the farce alive...
Is that really all you have to bitch about? Some thing that SCIENTISTS (not creationist, who have never contributed shit to the debate) proved false?
defender wrote:
Now what was that about sinking boats? Lol
Here. Have a life preserver.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Indianapolis, IN

#122572 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh they can show you some proof alright!! They just start slinging Talkorigins links like that's a reliable source.... But just like all the other lefty sources they are as full of it as a flock of buzzards fresh off the crap wagon...
Sure beats bible quotes.
One way or another

United States

#122573 Mar 9, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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You refuse to provide evidence that your "hypothesis" is correct, yet you demand that we provide evidence that our theory is correct (all of which you dismiss as part of an elaborate century-long conspiracy)? What is hypocrisy?
Now you hide behind my hypothesis, so you and science don't have to show that you can't even show one entity in the fossil lineage, that shows small changes even over millions of years and billions of fossils.

I can easily provide proof for my theories, pick one and I'll outline MY proof.
One way or another

United States

#122574 Mar 9, 2013
Evolutions entire premise is built on everything from one entity in the beginning, but out of at least a billion fossils, science cannot point to even one fossil lineage, that shows small progressive changes.

Evolution operates on hype and dumbing down the scientists, the general public and even the children, through a fully corrupt gov and media.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Indianapolis, IN

#122575 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Now you hide behind my hypothesis, so you and science don't have to show that you can't even show one entity in the fossil lineage, that shows small changes even over millions of years and billions of fossils.
I can easily provide proof for my theories, pick one and I'll outline MY proof.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the...
http://chem.tufts.edu/science/evolution/Horse...
http://www.ecology.info/horses.htm
One way or another

United States

#122576 Mar 9, 2013
There is a ton of good science to be discussed, in a never ending number of disciplines. Limiting oneself to such a few, over and over might show children what idiocy rules mankind.
One way or another

United States

#122577 Mar 9, 2013
MikeF wrote:
Hey stupid, This image shows a representative sequence, but should not be construed to represent a "straight-line" evolution of the horse. Reconstruction, left forefoot skeleton (third digit emphasized yellow) and longitudinal section of molars of selected prehistoric horses

I would add that science cannot prove these are of the same lineage. You're an idiot.

How many types of monkeys are there!
defender

Duluth, GA

#122578 Mar 9, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
defender, TalkOrigins is not a lefty site. Why would you make such a statement?

Would a site that advocated 2 + 2 = 4 be considered a "lefty site"?

You continually lie about the evidence for evolution. You can try to deny it, but the evidence for evolution is better and more thorough than that of any murder trial.
Does it not have a section just for arguing creation?... Oh but it's not bias in anyway... Same way CNN kisses Obama's ass and Fox outright lies about everything ... You sir are a kool aid drinking moron!! Easily taken in by whatever the idiot box tells you...
One way or another

United States

#122579 Mar 9, 2013
MikeF wrote:
If you're a teacher as you claimed, it just goes to show what morons the gov hires to teach children.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Indianapolis, IN

#122580 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey stupid, This image shows a representative sequence, but should not be construed to represent a "straight-line" evolution of the horse. Reconstruction, left forefoot skeleton (third digit emphasized yellow) and longitudinal section of molars of selected prehistoric horses
I would add that science cannot prove these are of the same lineage. You're an idiot.
How many types of monkeys are there!
Sorry, bozo. I should have realized you'd only look at the pictures.

"Detailed fossil information on the rate and distribution of new equid species has also revealed that the progression between species was not as smooth and consistent as was once believed. Although some transitions, such as that of Dinohippus to Equus, were indeed gradual progressions, a number of others, such as that of Epihippus to Mesohippus, were relatively abrupt in geologic time, taking place over only a few million years. Both anagenesis (gradual change in an entire population's gene frequency) and cladogenesis (a population "splitting" into two distinct evolutionary branches) occurred, and many species coexisted with "ancestor" species at various times. The change in equids' traits was also not always a "straight line" from Eohippus to Equus: some traits reversed themselves at various points in the evolution of new equid species, such as size and the presence of facial fossae, and only in retrospect can certain evolutionary trends be recognized."

ibid
One way or another

United States

#122581 Mar 9, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Does it not have a section just for arguing creation?... Oh but it's not bias in anyway... Same way CNN kisses Obama's ass and Fox outright lies about everything ... You sir are a kool aid drinking moron!! Easily taken in by whatever the idiot box tells you...
Amen brother! And Walmart will see us through the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs. Government and media morons.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Indianapolis, IN

#122582 Mar 9, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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If you're a teacher as you claimed, it just goes to show what morons the gov hires to teach children.
If you had a brain, you would remember that I an no longer a classroom teacher but a supervisor.

If you had had me as a teacher, you wouldn't be the whiny numbskull you've grown up to be.
defender

Duluth, GA

#122583 Mar 9, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
<quoted text>Is Earth's gravitational pull determined by its mass or by its rotational speed? This is important.
I'll never understand why the evolutionist use this argument because it just proves all the more that they have no true time line of which to measure...
The theory of gravity is yet unproven but so is time... Is the speed of light a proven constant? Do the laws of science that we know of exist outside our little corner of the universe?
Can energy create matter? Higgs Boson perhaps?.... Does DNA show only a one hundred thousand year decay rate hence rendering evolution even more impossible than it already is? How about the earths magnetic field decay rate which if it is proven to be consistent renders the theory void altogether ...
So many questions ... And that's just a few... But hey keep reaching till you can fall asleep feeling safe..
One way or another

United States

#122584 Mar 9, 2013
With the industrial revolution came higher pay, perks, healthcare and retirement. Now that millions of manufacturing jobs were given to other countries for the sake of a one world government and millions more manufacturing jobs have been automated, all the taxes from all the displaced good jobs and taxes collected from them, along with the loss of all the taxes from automation, the gov must keep borrowing money to keep paying for all the gov workers healthcare, high pay, retirement and perks.

The morons in congress know they can't keep their jobs and make the massive cuts that are needed, so they keep kicking the can down the road and doing great harm to the laborers. Labor is the only thing in the entire world that makes wealth.

The gov, Wall Street, the bankers and more are stealing all they want from laborers and then those entities blame the laborers for not having the same cubicle education they have, so that they too could steal from laborers.
defender

Duluth, GA

#122585 Mar 9, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, bozo. I should have realized you'd only look at the pictures.

"Detailed fossil information on the rate and distribution of new equid species has also revealed that the progression between species was not as smooth and consistent as was once believed. Although some transitions, such as that of Dinohippus to Equus, were indeed gradual progressions, a number of others, such as that of Epihippus to Mesohippus, were relatively abrupt in geologic time, taking place over only a few million years. Both anagenesis (gradual change in an entire population's gene frequency) and cladogenesis (a population "splitting" into two distinct evolutionary branches) occurred, and many species coexisted with "ancestor" species at various times. The change in equids' traits was also not always a "straight line" from Eohippus to Equus: some traits reversed themselves at various points in the evolution of new equid species, such as size and the presence of facial fossae, and only in retrospect can certain evolutionary trends be recognized."

ibid
Cut, paste, glue, "wait a sec that ain't workin (pause) ok this is how you evolved from.. Wait that ain't workin either... Somebody look it up on Talkorigins !!"...... Pathetic

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