Should evolution be taught in high school?

Feb 24, 2008 Full story: www.scientificblogging.com 173,408

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand." Full Story
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#122169 Mar 7, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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It turned out that you didn't actually know anything about C-14 dating nor even how it was proven to be accurate to within 3% of actual dates.
Suck on the following idiot.:-) thanks for showing everyone you're too stupid to know when science makes you out a fool. Hahahaha

Carbon dating a lie

Tell us dumb shit, how much extra cosmic radiation is added into our atmosphere when a massive star explodes or implodes?
Is the rate of bombardment constant?
NASA----
No. This is one reason why carbon dating ( http://www.sigmaxi.org/amsci/articles/00artic ...)(the carbon isotopes they measure are created by cosmic rays) is inaccurate, because it assumes that the rate is a constant, which is a typical gradualist way of looking at things. Evidence from a half-metre long stalagmite that grew between 45 000 and 11 000 years ago in a cave in the Bahamas, shows that the cosmic ray intensity for that period was double what it is today - see here or here for more info.
Read more: http://survive2012.com/index.php/cosmic-rays ....
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#122170 Mar 7, 2013
The sequester is so the gov can borrow more money, while the gov only makes the poorest people lose. The rest in the sequester are not going to lose anything.
The gov, kicking the can down the road. Watch out little investors, they're gonna take all ya got this time.

The only reason for sequester is china and Japan are demanding America get its house in order
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#122171 Mar 7, 2013
Did anyone else see the special done on china? China has many shining new cities, all across china, with no one living in them.

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#122172 Mar 7, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Suck on the following idiot.:-) thanks for showing everyone you're too stupid to know when science makes you out a fool. Hahahaha
Carbon dating a lie
Tell us dumb shit, how much extra cosmic radiation is added into our atmosphere when a massive star explodes or implodes?
Is the rate of bombardment constant?
NASA----
No. This is one reason why carbon dating ( http://www.sigmaxi.org/amsci/articles/00artic ...)(the carbon isotopes they measure are created by cosmic rays) is inaccurate, because it assumes that the rate is a constant, which is a typical gradualist way of looking at things. Evidence from a half-metre long stalagmite that grew between 45 000 and 11 000 years ago in a cave in the Bahamas, shows that the cosmic ray intensity for that period was double what it is today - see here or here for more info.
Read more: http://survive2012.com/index.php/cosmic-rays ....
This is a blatant lie. Carbon isotopes are not assumed constant. Calibration curves are employed to account for known variations in concentration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dati...

Why do Christians lie so much? Who would want a religion based on lies?
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#122173 Mar 7, 2013
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-ghost-...

Take a look at chinas ghost cities.

Can you say huge housing and commercial bubble.

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#122174 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
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SZ... Yet again you prove yourself to be incapable of logically answering any of the challenges to evolution.
There have been no challenges to evolution. You made some idiot posts, that is all.
HTS

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#122175 Mar 7, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Humans are apes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape
If you want it in peer review the try this one:
"Primate evolution at the DNA level and a classification of hominoids". Journal of Molecular Evolution 30 (3): 260266.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2109087
I'm interested in science, not recycled atheist BS.
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#122176 Mar 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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There have been no challenges to evolution. You made some idiot posts, that is all.
Said the moron with no proof.
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#122177 Mar 7, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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This is a blatant lie. Carbon isotopes are not assumed constant. Calibration curves are employed to account for known variations in concentration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dati...
Why do Christians lie so much? Who would want a religion based on lies?
Do show us the calibration curves child. I read a lot and your putrid web page shows no calibration curves s especially the reasoning behind the curve.

Come on monkey, show the people here sciences reasons for calibration curve. Lol--moron.
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#122178 Mar 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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There have been no challenges to evolution. You made some idiot posts, that is all.
No challenges?
I challenged you to give me a scientific explanation for the existence of endemic seals of Lake Baikal, and you fell flat.
Now you have the gall to say I have presented "no challenges"?
I'm sorry that the facts of nature don't conform to your atheistic worldview, but you'll have to deal with it.
Even with your great imagination, you cannot come up with a remotely logical proposal as to how seals ended up in an inland lake,

I suppose it's just another example of "convergence"...mayb e they evolved directly from bears...and they just happen to look like marine seals. Is that your grand explanation?
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#122179 Mar 7, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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This is a blatant lie. Carbon isotopes are not assumed constant. Calibration curves are employed to account for known variations in concentration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dati...
Why do Christians lie so much? Who would want a religion based on lies?
So now moron, you claim NASA is lying and Wikipedia is your savior? Lol

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#122180 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>No challenges?
I challenged you to give me a scientific explanation for the existence of endemic seals of Lake Baikal, and you fell flat.
Now you have the gall to say I have presented "no challenges"?
I'm sorry that the facts of nature don't conform to your atheistic worldview, but you'll have to deal with it.
Even with your great imagination, you cannot come up with a remotely logical proposal as to how seals ended up in an inland lake,
I suppose it's just another example of "convergence"...mayb e they evolved directly from bears...and they just happen to look like marine seals. Is that your grand explanation?
Check back, I did reply to that one. That was not a challenge. It was question by an idiot, that is all.

And remember, if you want evidence you have some work to do.
HTS

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#122181 Mar 7, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Odd that you can't even answer the "idiotic distractions"
The Dude wrote:
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How was "purpose" determined in an objective manner via the scientific method?
What is the purpose of life?
I'm not buying into your games. Why should I define purpose when your perverted worldview contends that purpose is non-existent?
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#122183 Mar 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Check back, I did reply to that one. That was not a challenge. It was question by an idiot, that is all.
And remember, if you want evidence you have some work to do.
Oh, now I understand...
Any scientific challenge to evolution that can't be answered is a "question by an idiot"...
Unfortunately, I don't think you have any canned retorts that you can pull out of your hip pocket...
You might have to actually think for yourself on this one...
HTS

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#122184 Mar 7, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Do show us the calibration curves child. I read a lot and your putrid web page shows no calibration curves s especially the reasoning behind the curve.
Come on monkey, show the people here sciences reasons for calibration curve. Lol--moron.
It is impossible to create a calibration curve for C-14 dating longer than proven history...ie, longer than about 4,000 years. Anything beyond that is not science. No one knows what the level of C-14 was in the atmosphere at that time, what the earth's magnetic poles were doing, etc. Raw speculation is not science.
HTS

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#122185 Mar 7, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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"purposeful"?
Your fundy extremest, antiquated world view isn't perfectly obvious?
You call me an extremist because I believe in the concept of "purpose"?

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#122186 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Oh, now I understand...
Any scientific challenge to evolution that can't be answered is a "question by an idiot"...
Unfortunately, I don't think you have any canned retorts that you can pull out of your hip pocket...
You might have to actually think for yourself on this one...
No, any question by you is a question by an idiot. And as I said, you are the one who controls if you get evidence or not. By refusing to learn what evidence is I have no reason to give you any. In fact I have a very good reason not to give you any evidence. Idiots tend to ignore evidence that they cannot understand.

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#122187 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
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You call me an extremist because I believe in the concept of "purpose"?
What are "emergent properties?" How do they differ from "purpose?" What is the "purpose" of a genetic mutation?
HTS

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#122188 Mar 7, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Non-random three-dimensional dihedral symmetry.
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A snowflake is not "non-random".
It is symmetrical only because of the molecular configuration and polarity of water.
Explain to me your scientific justification for labeling snowflakes "non-random".
Nature is random... Not ordered. The recycled snowflake argument is a self-evident fallacy.

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#122189 Mar 7, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Do show us the calibration curves child. I read a lot and your putrid web page shows no calibration curves s especially the reasoning behind the curve.
Come on monkey, show the people here sciences reasons for calibration curve. Lol--moron.
Yet another christian lie. You don't read much at all or you would have noticed further down on the same page;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dati...

Go on! Keep lying monkey boy!!

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