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Should evolution be taught in high school?

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Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#122180 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>No challenges?
I challenged you to give me a scientific explanation for the existence of endemic seals of Lake Baikal, and you fell flat.
Now you have the gall to say I have presented "no challenges"?
I'm sorry that the facts of nature don't conform to your atheistic worldview, but you'll have to deal with it.
Even with your great imagination, you cannot come up with a remotely logical proposal as to how seals ended up in an inland lake,
I suppose it's just another example of "convergence"...mayb e they evolved directly from bears...and they just happen to look like marine seals. Is that your grand explanation?
Check back, I did reply to that one. That was not a challenge. It was question by an idiot, that is all.

And remember, if you want evidence you have some work to do.
HTS

Williston, ND

#122181 Mar 7, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Odd that you can't even answer the "idiotic distractions"
The Dude wrote:
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How was "purpose" determined in an objective manner via the scientific method?
What is the purpose of life?
I'm not buying into your games. Why should I define purpose when your perverted worldview contends that purpose is non-existent?
HTS

Williston, ND

#122183 Mar 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Check back, I did reply to that one. That was not a challenge. It was question by an idiot, that is all.
And remember, if you want evidence you have some work to do.
Oh, now I understand...
Any scientific challenge to evolution that can't be answered is a "question by an idiot"...
Unfortunately, I don't think you have any canned retorts that you can pull out of your hip pocket...
You might have to actually think for yourself on this one...
HTS

Williston, ND

#122184 Mar 7, 2013
One way or another wrote:
<quoted text>
Do show us the calibration curves child. I read a lot and your putrid web page shows no calibration curves s especially the reasoning behind the curve.
Come on monkey, show the people here sciences reasons for calibration curve. Lol--moron.
It is impossible to create a calibration curve for C-14 dating longer than proven history...ie, longer than about 4,000 years. Anything beyond that is not science. No one knows what the level of C-14 was in the atmosphere at that time, what the earth's magnetic poles were doing, etc. Raw speculation is not science.
HTS

Williston, ND

#122185 Mar 7, 2013
Dogen wrote:
<quoted text>
"purposeful"?
Your fundy extremest, antiquated world view isn't perfectly obvious?
You call me an extremist because I believe in the concept of "purpose"?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#122186 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, now I understand...
Any scientific challenge to evolution that can't be answered is a "question by an idiot"...
Unfortunately, I don't think you have any canned retorts that you can pull out of your hip pocket...
You might have to actually think for yourself on this one...
No, any question by you is a question by an idiot. And as I said, you are the one who controls if you get evidence or not. By refusing to learn what evidence is I have no reason to give you any. In fact I have a very good reason not to give you any evidence. Idiots tend to ignore evidence that they cannot understand.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#122187 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
You call me an extremist because I believe in the concept of "purpose"?
What are "emergent properties?" How do they differ from "purpose?" What is the "purpose" of a genetic mutation?
HTS

Williston, ND

#122188 Mar 7, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Non-random three-dimensional dihedral symmetry.
<quoted text>

.
A snowflake is not "non-random".
It is symmetrical only because of the molecular configuration and polarity of water.
Explain to me your scientific justification for labeling snowflakes "non-random".
Nature is random... Not ordered. The recycled snowflake argument is a self-evident fallacy.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#122189 Mar 7, 2013
One way or another wrote:
<quoted text>
Do show us the calibration curves child. I read a lot and your putrid web page shows no calibration curves s especially the reasoning behind the curve.
Come on monkey, show the people here sciences reasons for calibration curve. Lol--moron.
Yet another christian lie. You don't read much at all or you would have noticed further down on the same page;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dati...

Go on! Keep lying monkey boy!!
HTS

Williston, ND

#122190 Mar 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
No, any question by you is a question by an idiot. And as I said, you are the one who controls if you get evidence or not. By refusing to learn what evidence is I have no reason to give you any. In fact I have a very good reason not to give you any evidence. Idiots tend to ignore evidence that they cannot understand.
You're embarrassing all of your atheist counterparts by your pathetic attempts to dodge questions that you cannot answer.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#122191 Mar 7, 2013
One way or another wrote:
<quoted text>
So now moron, you claim NASA is lying and Wikipedia is your savior? Lol
No, moron! I am saying that you are lying about NASA and even Wikipedia knows it.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#122192 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
You call me an extremist because I believe in the concept of "purpose"?
"purpose" is a human concept. It doesn't exist in nature.
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#122193 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, now I understand...
Any scientific challenge to evolution that can't be answered is a "question by an idiot"...
Unfortunately, I don't think you have any canned retorts that you can pull out of your hip pocket...
You might have to actually think for yourself on this one...
Don't worry HTS

You wont get any sense out of SZ

He thinks elephants have external testicles

...And please don't bring up Archie....
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#122194 Mar 7, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>
"purpose" is a human concept. It doesn't exist in nature.
Just like evolution....doesn't exist in nature
Russell

Adelaide, Australia

#122195 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
You're embarrassing all of your atheist counterparts by your pathetic attempts to dodge questions that you cannot answer.
Is that all?

He's having a really brilliant day then!

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#122196 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>
You're embarrassing all of your atheist counterparts by your pathetic attempts to dodge questions that you cannot answer.
Hardly. I am not the one that is dodging. That is you. I have offered countless times to teach you how evidence works so that when I show you evidence you cannot reject it out of hand like all of your creatard friends do.

You cannot point to one of your idiot questions that I have dodged. Not giving you a complete answer since it involves evidence that you would deny is not dodging a question.

So stop projecting. You are the one who continues to dodge by trying to take refuge in ignorance. It won't work with me anymore. If you won't learn what evidence is all I need to do is to point out that we have evidence. Your own actions make free me from the need to present evidence.
One way or another

United States

#122197 Mar 7, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>It is impossible to create a calibration curve for C-14 dating longer than proven history...ie, longer than about 4,000 years. Anything beyond that is not science. No one knows what the level of C-14 was in the atmosphere at that time, what the earth's magnetic poles were doing, etc. Raw speculation is not science.
True, but he challenged, so I was giving him the chance to prove what he says.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#122198 Mar 7, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry HTS
You wont get any sense out of SZ
He thinks elephants have external testicles
...And please don't bring up Archie....
You didn't know that little tidbit until you had to look into the fact your failed behemoth claim.

Don't try to act superior when you are one of the prize idiots on this forum. You are second only to Jimbo for complete idiocy on this forum. Congratulations!

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#122199 Mar 7, 2013
Russell wrote:
<quoted text>
Just like evolution....doesn't exist in nature
Poor Rusty. Evolution has been observed in the laboratory, in the field, and in the fossil record. It is hard to find a place where evolution is not self evidence, besides in the brains of creatards.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Level 5

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#122200 Mar 7, 2013
Russell wrote:
Just like evolution....doesn't exist in nature
No, it doesn't. But it is accurately descriptive of how nature works. Get used to it.

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