Should evolution be taught in high sc...

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There are 180369 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Should evolution be taught in high school?. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#119544 Feb 24, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Who wrote this piece of sh*t, there are no credits.
http://skepticink.com/smilodonsretreat/2013/0...
Pure BS.
Again, Jimbo is hoisted by his own petard. The article was supported. He, as an idiot, is in now position to judge whether or not these are adequate.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119545 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
For those interested in how even Newtonian mechanics says that Russell is full of crap in his beliefs here is the first of two video, about 12 minutes total, that describes how even the rotation of the asteroids shows that the Solar System is billions of years old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =gaF1Tr7nZ_sXX

Russell full of crap?!

Say it ain't so, SZ! Say it ain't so!

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119546 Feb 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Yeah, unfortunately Jimbo, Cowboy, HTS and Russ aren't capable.(shrug)

Yes, and it is a shame that we don't ignore them more and talk more about real science among those of us who are actually interested.

Would anyone be interested in discussing one of the following stories?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/...
One way or another

United States

#119547 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Again, Jimbo is hoisted by his own petard. The article was supported. He, as an idiot, is in now position to judge whether or not these are adequate.
And yet moron, you show no proof.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119548 Feb 24, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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I am very familiar with Sanford's work and cannot imagine him even remotely implying what you claim he said. So could you please provide his quote or reference please to support your claim?

Save it. Sanford is a creationist. Creationists will say literally anything.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119549 Feb 24, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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So if evolution's basic mechanism isn't beneficial mutations, then what is it?(Or if I misunderstood you, and you really meant that there is in fact, an observed beneficial mutation, let's see it.)

Seriously, read evolution for dummies. You will learn a lot.
One way or another

United States

#119550 Feb 24, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
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To be fair - Jimbo isn't exactly the best person to cry about references.
He has linked to a website about relativism to prove relativity wrong
And an obviously spoof website about why gravity is wrong (believe it had a quote about the gravitation force of fat people)
To be fair on him - which website using purple (would lean towards pink) links ?
But since he has never supported any of his nonsense it is about 50 of one and 99999999999999999999 of the other.
Aww come on child, prove what you claim.
Mugwump

Bradford, UK

#119551 Feb 24, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Since you can't prove what you claim, you are simply the deceitful moron you choose to be.
Lol
So you are saying you HAVEN'T used those two websites to support your posts ?

And the deceitful moron is?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#119552 Feb 24, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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And yet moron, you show no proof.
One more time for the hard of thinking.

Article.

Purple printing.

Right click with mouse.

Jimbo is a perpetual idiot. Why can't we harness this as a form of energy?

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119553 Feb 24, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Lying POS.

SZ is correct urb. It is the responsibility of the person with the new idea to support it with science (including observations) or it goes the way of the dodo bird.

Sanford has no data. His ideas are not even based on observed data. What he has (or I should say HAD) was a sciency sounding philosophy backed up (as are all philosophical thesis) by concepts. No one should have taken him seriously to begin with but there were those desperate to have a straw to clutch as their outdated ideas were being swept down the scientific drain.
Mugwump

Bradford, UK

#119554 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Jimbo is a perpetual idiot. Why can't we harness this as a form of energy?
Can I just say I will take 5% for the branding.

'Consumers - your energy problems are now resolved - power your whole home with the PSM - perpetual stupidly machine'
One way or another

United States

#119555 Feb 24, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Yes, and it is a shame that we don't ignore them more and talk more about real science among those of us who are actually interested.
Would anyone be interested in discussing one of the following stories?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/...
You're a mental patient and the evolutionary scientists have absolutely nothing to go on, but hey, why don't you or those scientists show the progression. LMAO

You got nuthin moron.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119556 Feb 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Actually the probability is around 1 in 3 billion. However the probability of any point mutations occurring *at all* is 10,000% minimum (as long as reproduction occurs).
Keep arguing against goal-directed evolution and you will always miss the bus - we in the meantime will be arguing for ACTUAL evolution.

I had to count decimal places on my fingers, but your math is (roughly) correct.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119557 Feb 24, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>. You're busted, Dude. I've forced you to admit that evolution has nothing to do with science.

You just keep making things up as you go.
One way or another

United States

#119558 Feb 24, 2013
Mugwump wrote:
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So you are saying you HAVEN'T used those two websites to support your posts ?
And the deceitful moron is?
Aww, no proof.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119559 Feb 24, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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You have GOT to be kidding me.
Polymath would have a field day.

I miss poly.

I learned a lot from him
One way or another

United States

#119560 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
One more time for the hard of thinking.
Article.
Purple printing.
Right click with mouse.
Jimbo is a perpetual idiot. Why can't we harness this as a form of energy?
Simply show us the scientist that claimed to write the piece moron.
Mugwump

Bradford, UK

#119561 Feb 24, 2013
One way or another wrote:
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Aww come on child, prove what you claim.
Which claim specifically ?

That you haven't used spurious websites that have nothing to do with the claim you are making.?

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119562 Feb 24, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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Lying, deceitful, POS.

LOL. You have as much of nothing as ever.


Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, you are.
Too bad that you don't understand the rules of debate along with evolution.
So where is Sanford's evidence that supports his claim? That is not really too much to ask now is it?

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#119563 Feb 24, 2013
Urban Cowboy wrote:
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So even though I give you every option, you still resort to deceit and lies. How do you sleep at night?

More projection

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