Should evolution be taught in high school?

Feb 24, 2008 | Posted by: Cash | Full story: www.scientificblogging.com

Microbiologist Carl Woese is well known as an iconoclast. At 79 years of age, Woese is still shaking things up. Most recently, he stated in an interview with Wired that...

"My feeling is that evolution shouldn't be taught at the lower grades. You don't teach quantum mechanics in the grade schools. One has to be quite educated to work with these concepts; what they pass on as evolution in high schools is nothing but repetitious tripe that teachers don't understand."

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One way or another wrote:
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I argue science, but idiots like you have to have something negative to say.
Lol
I have yet to see you posit anything scientific.
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How so? It only precludes evolution if there is a set species you are trying to evolve. That is not the case. That is the sort of foolish mistake that creatards make time after time.
I knew you'd say something like that. Convergence proves you are wrong. Think about it.
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I have yet to see you posit anything scientific.
Or even rational

Or even anything he is willing to discuss in an adult manner.

I do suspect he is a Poe - no one can be this stupid - and also as he avoids questions that highlight his nonsense approach to 'science' he obviously has the faculties to make that judgement.
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What? Does the class clown think he has a valid "odds proof" that evolution is impossible?
Let's see it Jimbo.
A swing and a miss from the Evo moron.

Gosh, your childish stupidity isn't getting any better. Keep working on it moron.

Talking your childish language is tedious and goes nowhere, but hey, it seems to be all you have.

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HTS wrote:
<quoted text>I'm interested in science, not vain appeals to authority or references to your religious beliefs.
Evolution is fully supported by evidence, the only challenge to it is from Christiots like yourself who appeal to the authority of 2000 yo goat herder fables.
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A swing and a miss from the Evo moron.
Gosh, your childish stupidity isn't getting any better. Keep working on it moron.
Talking your childish language is tedious and goes nowhere, but hey, it seems to be all you have.
I believe the question was, can you offer any reason why probability refutes evolution.

See - this just backs up my hypothesis - you are a windup merchant
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Evolution is fully supported by evidence, the only challenge to it is from Christiots like yourself who appeal to the authority of 2000 yo goat herder fables.
Evolution has been repeatedly debunked through scientific proofs. It is, for starters, mathematically impossible. The need for you to always bring up religion in an attitutude of mockery attests to the shallowness of your thinking.
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Dogen wrote:
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You could not pick "science" out of a police line-up if you had the mug shot in your hand.
Oh gosh, childish stupidity from an Evo moron, whatever will we do.
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I believe the question was, can you offer any reason why probability refutes evolution.
See - this just backs up my hypothesis - you are a windup merchant
He said," odds proof". Show us the definition of odds proof.

Of course seeing as you and he are both morons and there is no such thing as odds proof, stupidity is all you have.

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<quoted text> Evolution has been repeatedly debunked through scientific proofs. It is, for starters, mathematically impossible. The need for you to always bring up religion in an attitutude of mockery attests to the shallowness of your thinking.
You have demonstrated your mastery of mathematics is a joke as is your scientific acumen. Evolution is supported by the majority of the available evidence, "Magic Sky Daddy did it with pixie dust" is supported by none of the available evidence. You've got nothing.
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You have demonstrated your mastery of mathematics is a joke as is your scientific acumen. Evolution is supported by the majority of the available evidence, "Magic Sky Daddy did it with pixie dust" is supported by none of the available evidence. You've got nothing.
I have been patiently waiting for months for someone to demonstrate through mathematical probability that evolution is possible. All I get is "evolutiondidit with magic" and all who disagree are religious fanatics who hate science.
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He said," odds proof". Show us the definition of odds proof.
Of course seeing as you and he are both morons and there is no such thing as odds proof, stupidity is all you have.
Odds = probability

Probability was mentioned in SZs post which said there is no probility argument that is a barrier to evolution

You said he was wrong

It's up to you to prove it Edgar

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iIn the deluded world of atheism, there are no absolutes... No love, no beauty, no good or evil, no purpose...nothing
None of those is absolute. They're not even objective. What's wrong with you?

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A swing and a miss from the Evo moron.
Gosh, your childish stupidity isn't getting any better. Keep working on it moron.
Talking your childish language is tedious and goes nowhere, but hey, it seems to be all you have.
So the uber-moron does not have a probability argument. Of course Jimbo would have been wrong no matter what.
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I have yet to see you posit anything scientific.
That's because you're an idiot.

Lenski's antibiotic claim.

Original work
By Jim Ryan
Supported by evidence

Lenski and or lederberg should have had the sense to reversed the experiment, to show that when 10 million antibiotic resistantt bacteria were cultured, they produced one that was non antibiotic resistant. One or both should have cultured 10 million bacteria that were non resistant, to see if an antibiotic resistant bacteria developed.
Bacteria may develop both every 10 millionth one as a memory device. If so, that should tell science quite a lot.

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None of those is absolute. They're not even objective. What's wrong with you?
Anyone who thinks that a random shuffle of a deck of cards is fundamentally no different than an ordered sequence is denying fundamental axioms of physics.

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<quoted text>I have been patiently waiting for months for someone to demonstrate through mathematical probability that evolution is possible. All I get is "evolutiondidit with magic" and all who disagree are religious fanatics who hate science.
It doesn't need to be established through mathematical probability, especially not with your faulty assumption basis.

Microevolution has been established as a fact in our lifetime. Macroevolution is merely an extension of the same effect over a longer period of time, they are the same thing. Macroevolution is as factual as microevolution. Evolution is an established fact. Deal with it!

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<quoted text> Evolution has been repeatedly debunked through scientific proofs. It is, for starters, mathematically impossible. The need for you to always bring up religion in an attitutude of mockery attests to the shallowness of your thinking.
You have gone straight for How's That for Stupid mode today.

No, no one ever has raised a successful probability argument against evolution. I pointed out the fatal flaw in that idiotic one that you mentioned earlier today.

You should not lie HTS, if you are a Christian it is a breaking of the 9th Commandment.
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Odds = probability
Probability was mentioned in SZs post which said there is no probility argument that is a barrier to evolution
You said he was wrong
It's up to you to prove it Edgar
Your deceit is all you have. Run along child.

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HTS wrote:
<quoted text>I have been patiently waiting for months for someone to demonstrate through mathematical probability that evolution is possible. All I get is "evolutiondidit with magic" and all who disagree are religious fanatics who hate science.
No, you have repeatedly ignored the evidence. That is why I will not give you any evidence until you take the short bit of time to learn what evidence is. You keep yourself ignorant as a defense. That really does not work in a debate.

By the way since we have observed evolution in the laboratory, in the field in several different ways and in the fossil record the odds of evolution occurring are by definition 1.

So let's hear your fatally flawed probability arguments.

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